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[DefNextYear]

What does this mean….

“Poles is making it known he is upset with the current structure”

If it’s what I think it means than this X guy is going against what he already “reported”

I may have missed it. What did he say differently?

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

Because everything he gets right has other sources out there and he's just taking minimal risk guesses.

Believe whatever you want, I doubt this guy has any sources. Reddit believes anyone its a cesspool for shitty sports talk.

I mean that's your right but it's kind of sad to continually try to piss in the Wheaties of people who do follow some of these things for their own enjoyment.

You do you and my other people do other people.

 

[Chicago Staleys]

I may have missed it. What did he say differently?

I think the first thing to answer is what does his statement mean?

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

No this has been discussed in Atlanta and on their radio stations for quite some time now. This wasn’t some super secret info. I live here and it’s also been on their message boards. Thanks.

I feel like there's a logical disconnect here.

There is a difference between a whole bunch of people suspecting that something will eventually happen and discussing it and it being a hot topic, can someone coming forward with firmer details on when it will actually happen.

Saying those are the same thing is false equivalence.

 

[bamainatlanta]

I feel like there's a logical disconnect here.

There is a difference between a whole bunch of people suspecting that something will eventually happen and discussing it and it being a hot topic, can someone coming forward with firmer details on when it will actually happen.

Saying those are the same thing is false equivalence.

No everyone has been reporting this in Atlanta; ever since the first game when it became clear that Cousins is not fully healed and played like shit that he was on a short leash. His passes have no zip on them and he can’t throw intermediate to deep in tight coverage. The message board posters had their “insiders” that Cousins was likely not completing the season even if they are in the playoff hunt(which is hanging on by a thread).

 

[DefNextYear]

I think the first thing to answer is what does his statement mean?

I think it means he's upset that Warren has come in and taken away power and direct access to the McCaskeys. This is an echo of other recent reports.

 

[UChiLAbear]

I am saying HC that have picked their GMs usually have roster control. Shanny for example has roster control in San Fran. Lynch cannot make a move that Shanny disapproves of. It is in his contract.

Jim Harbaugh was hired first and basically chose his GM who was an exec with his brother's team. He has final roster control

Jim Harbaugh To Have Final Say In Chargers' Roster Decisions

New Chargers head coach Jim Harbaugh will have the opportunity to make key personnel moves for the franchise

clutchpoints.com

So again I cant really think of any example where a HC essentially picks his GM but doesnt have final say on the roster.

Once you give the HC power to decided his GM then you are telling the HC they are more important than the GM. So typically they want that embedded in their contract by being given full roster control. The GM then just becomes the guy that does all the legal work for them but the HC makes the final decision.

Good to know..thanks. I didn't know about the examples you gave on HC having final say. Guess there are exceptions to the rule.

 

[Chicago Staleys]

I think it means he's upset that Warren has come in and taken away power and direct access to the McCaskeys. This is an echo of other recent reports.

That’s what I believe too but he/she has already said that’s false. Confusing for “an insider”

 

[DefNextYear]

That’s what I believe too but he/she has already said that’s false. Confusing for “an insider”

I checked his feed and see exactly what you mean. Good catch.

 

[Les Grossman]

Is there a good reason that this isn't the structure more often? I'm not asking to spread a coach thin and make him do all the work... but the coach can count on the GM to head scouting and work financials among whatever else. They can discuss players and what to do, but the HC makes the final call on the players he wants on his team. It's like college football that way. And ultimately, the HC makes more money than the GM... which means he should have more control and authority. It's a direct vote of importance. Anyway, my first sentence isn't facetious... I'm genuinely curious why a GM has authority over a HC, especially in a setup where there's a president above both of them. To me, HC seems more important to warrant at least being an equal.

I mean the players make more money than the coaches, should they have more authority then?

 

[DefNextYear]

I mean the players make more money than the coaches, should they have more authority then?

Touche... but some do, though maybe unofficially a la Aaron Rodgers. But point taken.

It doesn't really answer to me though why a GM should have authority over a coach to have final say on personnel though.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

giving ben johnson the option to hire his own GM is the dumbest shit ever and I fully expect the bears to do it.

Thats like having a branch manager hire the CFO of a company. Should go great guys.

Then when ben johnson sucks and the gm he brings in is an idiot we can all blame the lions for sabotaging the bears from the inside.

What’s the difference between this and the Bears hiring their own GM who will f*ck everything up?

 

[Les Grossman]

Touche... but some do, though maybe unofficially a la Aaron Rodgers. But point taken.

It doesn't really answer to me though why a GM should have authority over a coach to have final say on personnel though.

Oh yeah, and for the record I agree. I personally think both the coaches and the GMs have too much power honestly.

Along with your thought, seems like a better structure would be drafting and player acquisition be in line/parallel with the Head Coach, or maybe even under the head coach? And then they’d all report to President or whatever.

 

[DefNextYear]

Oh yeah, and for the record I agree. I personally think both the coaches and the GMs have too much power honestly.

Along with your thought, seems like a better structure would be drafting and player acquisition be in line/parallel with the Head Coach, or maybe even under the head coach? And then they’d all report to President or whatever.

I'm guessing it's a layer to separate church and state... if the coach has too much power, players might be more likely to have conflict when it comes to their pay/contracts/performance incentives. The GM maybe gives another person to blame for those decisions while not ruining the coach's relationship with the players. I'm not sure if that's a good reason or not, but I can buy that being a benefit.