Lester blowing it for the A's

[The Bandit]

Awww, can't articulate a thought?

That might be a little to hard for you to comprehend. Damn, this is what passes as a troll on this board now?

 

[ChicagoBornCalifLiving]

The offense scored 8 runs so they did their job.

Lester gave up 6 runs in 7 innings.

The relief guys gave up 3 runs in 5 innings. The relief crew had a better ERA in the game than Lester did. So blaming the relief guys is a bit silly.

So unless you want to blame the catcher for his inability to throw out runners, Lester gets the blame. Just because he left with the lead doesn't mean it's not his fault. What if the offense scored 20 and Lester gave up 19? Are you still going to tell me it's not Lester's fault?

So let me get this straight, blaming the guys who are being paid tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to do a job is a little bit silly, seriously? Lester walks off the mound with one out in the 8th inning and at the end of said inning it is 7-6 Oakland. But we cannot blame the relief pitchers because their ERA was bet than Lester’s and we can’t blame the catcher for the critical steals of 3rd and 2nd that allowed the game to be tied twice after Lester was gone. Last time I checked the guy who hands the game over to the bullpen with a lead is not the cause for losing the game, but hey that is just me.

I get that you don’t want to sign Lester based on one game, that is you prerogative. But don’t try to hang his being a crap pitcher who is not worth pursuing on that game. Thank god Kershaw is not a free agent and you were basing whether the Cubs should sign him based on his last outing against the Cubs when he gave up 3 runs to an AAA team in the 1st inning and pitched only 5 innings in his shortest outing in 3 months..

 

[JimJohnson]

So let me get this straight, blaming the guys who are being paid tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to do a job is a little bit silly, seriously? Lester walks off the mound with one out in the 8th inning and at the end of said inning it is 7-6 Oakland. But we cannot blame the relief pitchers because their ERA was bet than Lester’s and we can’t blame the catcher for the critical steals of 3rd and 2nd that allowed the game to be tied twice after Lester was gone. Last time I checked the guy who hands the game over to the bullpen with a lead is not the cause for losing the game, but hey that is just me.

I don't understand why this is so hard for you and others to understand? Lester gave up 6 FUCKING RUNS. Had he pitched better, and that's what he's paid to do, Oakland wins that game. People seem to want blame the relief guys even though on a combined basis, they performed better than Lester.

Lester pitched like SHIT! Do you understand that part of the equation? Just because his team was winning doesn't mean it's not his fault they lost. The offense having a great night DOES NOT absolve Lester of pitching like shit.

 

[Parade_Rain]

You seem to be the only person having a hard time understanding what Lester did.

 

[JimJohnson]

You seem to be the only person having a hard time understanding what Lester did.

Well what he did was give up 6 runs in 7 innings. If a Cubs pitcher had done that, you would be raking his ass over coal.

 

[SilenceS]

Even Brett wouldnt go this far on a Cubs player and Lester isnt even on this team.

 

[The Bandit]

This is hilarious.

 

[CSF77]

JJ: Lester was near 100 PC going into the inning. It was the MANAGERS fault for not pulling him after the 7th.

He HAD NO BUSINESS being in there in the 8th.

Seeing how the pen chokes it away maybe B.B. should have bolstered his PEN. vs DEPENDING on Lester at 100 PC.

So stop trolling Lester. Dude was nails up to that point. He just gassed.

 

[DewsSox79]

this thread is epic. 1 member using 1 game to call lester shit. will he get overpaid? yep..but so will all starters. but this one way opinion on a guy because of a play in game is just we todd did.


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[CSF77]

If he was at 80 PC then I would have said the same. Choke job. 100 PC is on management. If management didn't trust his pen then the fault lies on Beene for not making the needed roster movemen ts.

pretty basic shit.

 

[Boobaby1]

I'll pass on giving him a big time offer.

Why? Is there someone better? I'd pass on the Soriano/Villanueva money for Jon Lester in a New York minute.

If you are worried about his playoff numbers, let me remind you that arguably the best pitcher in either league boasts a 1-3 record and 4.23 ERA.

In the NLCS, that same pitcher is 0-3 with a 7.23 ERA. His name is Clayton Kershaw.

Point being, you have to get to the playoffs before you can win a WS, and I'd take my chances that any of these guys will find their form sooner or later. Right now, the Cubs need to get to the playoffs any way they can.

 

[CSF77]

this thread is epic. 1 member using 1 game to call lester shit. will he get overpaid? yep..but so will all starters. but this one way opinion on a guy because of a play in game is just we todd did.


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I judged Lester off of 75 of 111 pitches were for strikes and something like 22 of 36 guys he had them on strike 1 with the first pitch. He is a strike thrower.

 

[CSF77]

Why? Is there someone better? I'd pass on the Soriano/Villanueva money for Jon Lester in a New York minute.

If you are worried about his playoff numbers, let me remind you that arguably the best pitcher in either league boasts a 1-3 record and 4.23 ERA.

In the NLCS, that same pitcher is 0-3 with a 7.23 ERA. His name is Clayton Kershaw.

Point being, you have to get to the playoffs before you can win a WS, and I'd take my chances that any of these guys will find their form sooner or later. Right now, the Cubs need to get to the playoffs any way they can.

Pretty dumb if you ask me. He has a long play off history and this young team needs that guidance to lead them.

 

[chibears55]

McCutchen went 0 for 3 pirates should trade him
Martin went 1 for 4 nobody should sign him

 

[JimJohnson]

I judged Lester off of 75 of 111 pitches were for strikes and something like 22 of 36 guys he had them on strike 1 with the first pitch. He is a strike thrower.

That didn't work out too well last night.

 

[Boobaby1]

That didn't work out too well last night.

Nothing is foolproof. Players are going to have less than stellar performances at times, but overall, he is a damn good pitcher, and one obviously the Cubs will covet.

The Cubs know that even if they get Lester, that he will probably not live up to his contract at the end of it as most players of that caliber and age don't. By the end of a contract like that however, you should have enough flexibility in payroll via the farm system, or marketing and television deals to off-set any contract(s) like that.

 

[brett05]

The truth is Lester could have pitched a perfect game, could have given up 7 runs with no one reitred in the first or been somewhere in between like he was on Tuesday and nothing changes for him on the Free Agent market.

 

[CSF77]

That didn't work out too well last night.

you fall under: Can't fix stupid.

 

[CSF77]

The truth is Lester could have pitched a perfect game, could have given up 7 runs with no one reitred in the first or been somewhere in between like he was on Tuesday and nothing changes for him on the Free Agent market.

Very true. The main point is the Cubs have a young team with no play off games. They need to add players with that knowledge. Lester has been there and he is better then what they have.

The ONLY pitcher on the market who would be better is Max. But he is going to command 200 mil. I doubt the Rickett's pay that out.

 

[dabears253313]

LOL one bad game and Jon Lester isn't a good pitcher anymore? Last season his ERA was 1.56 combined for all of his playoff appearances. But yeah, he isn't one of the best pitcher in baseball so, whatever.

He's a bad playoff pitcher? The Cubs have to get to the playoffs first in order to see what he'll have in the tank. He will DEFINITELY improve the pitching rotation for the Cubs. Right now I don't know if the Cubs are a playoff team, Lester will only make the playoffs chances better.