Lester blowing it for the A's

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I'm not sure what you're wowing about. If Oakland had led 20-19 when Lester came out, and the relief crew gives up 3 runs over the next 5 innings, would you seriously blame the relief pitchers? LMAO please say yes so everyone will know you're a Special person.

Don't really care if Oakland was leading 100-99 when Lester came out. When his stat line officially ended at the end of the 8th the A's were winning. The bullpen had 3 outs to get with a one run lead and couldn't do it so yes it is on the bullpen and not Lester. You really cannot be this fucking stupid.
 

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Which part? That Detroit is now down 0-2 because miggy got blown up at home?

About Jon Lester.......

Dude's gonna get paid, and he's a pretty good pitcher. Reading your posts about how you don't like him made my brain hurt......
 

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Bullpen blew it twice and also allowed Lester's inherited runners in
 

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Bullpen blew it twice and also allowed Lester's inherited runners in

Inherited runners are the responsibility of the pitcher who let them get on.

Lester was up 7-2 and he let the Royals right back in it. His fault.
 

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You guys can joke all you want but if you can't get it done in the playoffs, your stats are meaningless.

Whats funny is their same stats would level out over the same sample size. They are very few players in history that have enough sample that their numbers did not coincide with their lifetime numbers. David Ortiz would be one, but over his sample he is just above his regular stats. I hope you are under the age of 12.
 

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You have to get to the play offs first.

This whole argument is pointless. The play offs are more about the hottest hitters at that moment. But the best teams make it there.

Det is not there with out Mige. Or Max who got blown up.

Fact is O's are a hot team right now. Nothing about that team stands out but they are on fire and that matters right now. Next series they may get blown up. The point is it is about momentum.

Sad thing is this argument you are posing JJ could apply to the Braves in the 90's. 1 out of what 8? Still the fact they were dominate in the NL over those years makes that team one of the best.

In the end that is what matters. Being in the play offs gives any player or team a chance. Guys that you are bashing got their teams there.

Even so Lester was over 100 pitches thrown when the Royals finally got to him. The fact you are bashing a guy who was over the normal amount allowed it pretty dumb.

If he gave up those 6 runs through out the 7 innings he was in then ya it is what it is, but it was the 8th after he was past 100 pitches they got to him.

You suffer from irrational thinking MeH thinks JJ.

Rational thinking is he was at 100 pitches and the Royals finally got to him. Maybe the Manager should have not have let him got into the 8th when he was at 100 pitches.
 

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You have to get to the play offs first.

This whole argument is pointless. The play offs are more about the hottest hitters at that moment. But the best teams make it there.

Teams don't start out the season with the goal of making it to the playoffs unless they're a shit team. By and large, the goal is to win the Series. The best teams expect their top players to also perform in the playoffs. If they can't, then they're failing. That is fact.

Just to say that those players got their team
to the playoffs doesn't excuse shit playoff performance. This cannot be argued. If anyone tries to argue this point, they're just trolling me.
 

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Teams don't start out the season with the goal of making it to the playoffs unless they're a shit team. By and large, the goal is to win the Series. The best teams expect their top players to also perform in the playoffs. If they can't, then they're failing. That is fact.

Just to say that those players got their team
to the playoffs doesn't excuse shit playoff performance. This cannot be argued. If anyone tries to argue this point, they're just trolling me.
You're missing the point, which is that the playoffs are a small sample size. Also, GMs a lot smarter than you are on record as saying you have to get to the playoffs, because once you are there anything can happen. The reason being is that the team that is the hottest at the moment, regardless of record, has an advantage over a better team that is slumping. As an example there was a Cardinal team in 04 that went 105-57 and got swept in the world series by a WC team (Boston).
 

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The players who say that stuff. It is because that is expected out of them due to the spirit of competition.

Reality is if you get there you have a chance and getting there is what matters.

Gm's get this and build teams that are built for the 162 day grind first. Add bench depth for days off. If the team is in it then trade for profile pending F/A's.

Stuff happens every year.

When we look at great players it is based off of what they do during the reg season. Any play off stuff is astriced.

Jeter was solid in the play offs. He became a big deal because he was on NY which is the major media mecca. If he was on the Cubs no one but Cub fans would have cared as his D was shotty. Ortiz lit up at the right time also last year.

Fact is the Cubs need to get to the play offs year after year to have a shot at getting to the WS, and adding Lester is a step in the right direction. Losing Wood and Jackson is another.
 

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To me it is all good what players do in the play offs but teams still have to get there.

I felt better about 2008 than 1969 for the Cubs. Both were disappointment but 2008 the had a chance. 1969 they did not.
 

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I am glad that people still believe that professional baseball players who have been playing with pressure their entire lives magically stop being able to handle things once October rolls around. Here is the bottom line the fluctuations in performance between career and postseason numbers are almost always issues of sample sizes. And has been shown Lester's overall postseason numbers are really, really good. But this one game invalidates over 1500 big league innings. My god football thinking invades everything here doesn't it.
 

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Anyone else glad big money spending Angels and Tigers are 1 lost away from being eliminated ?
both losing to low payroll teams in royals and orioles
 

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Anyone else glad big money spending Angels and Tigers are 1 lost away from being eliminated ?
both losing to low payroll teams in royals and orioles

It's all about getting hot. No different from any sport besides basketball. Home court seems to play a way bigger advantage


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