Lightfoot trying to get the Bears to stay??

[Bearcub13]

Did a boomer steal your GF, kick your dog, take your job or something?

As for Soldier Field, too little too late. Bears have just purchased the perfect site for a stadium complex with great access and huge increase in team value.

As for the dome, I hope they use one + field turf at their new location. Maybe retractable center section etc. Get SBs, BB, soccer tournaments and concerts etc without needing to worry about the weather or field going crappy due to overuse or our FB season weather.

Most boomers I know feel as I do.

They will put a nice roof on the new stadium so you don't have to get chilly, you big baby!

 

[Bearcub13]

No, staying in trash heap, tiny soldier field is the “half-assed approach”. Dealing with the junky field quality, ridiculously low seating capacity, and ridiculous exterior look is half-assed. Building a state of the art facility worthy of one of the largest sports markets in the country is not half-assed. Please explain why a team in Chicago should have the seat capacity it does without “muh tradishun!”

It is tough to do anything in the city, I understand that, but the Bears have been tough through their history. I still think a Chicago venue is the only venue that works. Let me put it this way, I am a die hard Cubs fan, but if they left Wrigley I am not sure I could say that anymore. The same would be true for the Bears.

Then you’re not a die hard, literally by definition not a die hard. If a team moving a minute distance from the city makes you upset you are not a die hard, simple as. What the hell does a “tough team” 40 years ago and beyond have to do with a city having a trash facility? Jesus, man…

There is a depth to the history of the team that is intertwined with Chicago. Carl Sandburg called Chicago "The City of Big shoulders", Chicago has been the cog that made the Midwest work. I will miss the Bears, but I can't see following them if the carpetbagger McCaskeys turn the franchise into an ATM, with no soul.

“B-b-but muh city of broad shoulders! Muh tradishun! Muh windy city! Muh blue collar defense representing the common man!”
Pure meatball thinking, same nonsense trash spewed by countless idiotic The Score callers every week. This fan base is pretty bad and it’s posts like this that represent the worst of it. TIL a team moving to a suburb like multiple other franchises have makes a team no longer worthy of fandom. I’m shocked more people haven’t jumped you for this nonsense. This board is really bad but the fact this argument isn’t being destroyed is just sad.

If you don't understand the Bears roots, you are not a very good fan. If you have no roots you just blow in the wind. There are probably at least 1 million Bears fans in Chicago (conservative estimate), if the Bears added 10,000 seats in their new stadium it would be above league average, but what difference would it make. the 940,000 fans without season tickets could get a little closer on the waiting list . The seating capacity is a business decision not a fan enjoyment decision. I have watched games in AT&T Stadium, the Rose bowl, and University of Michigan stadiums, believe me the nosebleed seats suck. Bears fans have a small stadium, which is good for the fans...

 

[Bearly]

If you don't understand the Bears roots, you are not a very good fan. If you have no roots you just blow in the wind. There are probably at least 1 million Bears fans in Chicago (conservative estimate), if the Bears added 10,000 seats in their new stadium it would be above league average, but what difference would it make. the 940,000 fans without season tickets could get a little closer on the waiting list . The seating capacity is a business decision not a fan enjoyment decision. I have watched games in AT&T Stadium, the Rose bowl, and University of Michigan stadiums, believe me the nosebleed seats suck. Bears fans have a small stadium, which is good for the fans...

I guess you want them back in Wrigley. Why should they care about an extra $2m per game (seats plus amenities/parking) or the extra events available to a modern facility? Can't wait until you complain about a SB going there.

 

[Bearcub13]

I guess you want them back in Wrigley. Why should they care about an extra $2m per game (seats plus amenities/parking) or the extra events available to a modern facility? Can't wait until you complain about a SB going there.

I appreciate the thoughtful response, seriously. Wrigley was a terrible football venue, but it was the first place I saw the Bears play. But, Soldiers Field is a better football venue and it is in Chicago. Concessions and parking are sources of income, but a ledger has two sides. The Bears pay almost nothing to use Soldiers Field, so they may get less income but, they have less expense. The new stadium is all about the Bears selling price, not about operations.

 

[Penny Traitor]

The Bears have a soul, they are not just a business. For those that get it, Arlington will always be a half-ass approach to running the Bears team

Meh.

You know what seems like a more half-assed approach to running a century old NFL franchise?

Never once owning the field you play on.

I'd be more hung up on that rather than moving 20 miles away from the city's borderline.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Because no other team plays outside their city

Like the New Jersey Giants and Jets, or the Arlington Cowboys. Shall I go on? Moron

Didn't the Packers play in Milwaukee well into the mid-90's?

 

[run and shoot]

Didn't the Packers play in Milwaukee well into the mid-90's?

Packers in Milwaukee

 

[bamainatlanta]

Packers in Milwaukee


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Good Lord. He's fucking dumber than we thought

 

[run and shoot]

Good Lord. He's fucking dumber than we thought

I don't know why @PackerNation spends so much time.


I just this pulled additional info. off the 'net


Do the Green Bay Packers play in Milwaukee?

After hosting one game at Borchert Field in 1933, the Packers played two or three home games each year in Milwaukee, at Wisconsin State Fair Park from 1934–1951, Marquette Stadium in 1952, and Milwaukee County Stadium from 1953–1994. Since then, the Packers have played all home games in Green Bay permanently.

 

[BigJ52]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1550568063812116481

 

[Brownie]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1550568063812116481

 

[Bearcub13]

Meh.

You know what seems like a more half-assed approach to running a century old NFL franchise?

Never once owning the field you play on.

I'd be more hung up on that rather than moving 20 miles away from the city's borderline.

What could that possibly matter? Let's look at the big picture, take a step back. The City of Chicago representatives and Bears reps should sit down in a smoke filled room together. The City of Chicago reps should just ask the Bears if there is anything that could keep them at the current venue. If the Bears have no answer, then the City can start looking for other tenants. If the Bears have an open mind, then find out what they think they need. This actually is a tremendous civic opportunity if that happens. Then behind the scenes, the City and the Bears would agree to an aggressive plan to make it happen. The Bears should have an opportunity to be in a position similar to other big market NFL teams, that is a reasonable expectation. Keeping the Bears would make Chicago better and the Bears better. FYI, none of the people in the smoke filled room should be named Lightfoot or McCaskey...

 

[KittiesKorner]

I am enjoying paying for the shitty renovation within cook county until 2033, but sure, let’s see if they get it right this time while we can’t even pay pensions

 

[FozzyBear]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1550568063812116481

The toilet bowl.

Imagine college bowl season.

Illinois vs Indiana in the 2024 Shitshow @ A Soldiers, Field Toilet.

The king on his throne.. +10 to myself for the effort it took to make this free to use nft

 

[Bearly]

I appreciate the thoughtful response, seriously. Wrigley was a terrible football venue, but it was the first place I saw the Bears play. But, Soldiers Field is a better football venue and it is in Chicago. Concessions and parking are sources of income, but a ledger has two sides. The Bears pay almost nothing to use Soldiers Field, so they may get less income but, they have less expense. The new stadium is all about the Bears selling price, not about operations.

But that goes directly to increased value and in effect overall revenue.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1550568063812116481

Here's the thing. Bears will likely dome their new facility but a dome is something they never asked for from the city. It has nothing to do with why they're leaving.

 

[Bearly]

The toilet bowl.

Imagine college bowl season.

Illinois vs Indiana in the 2024 Shitshow @ A Soldiers, Field Toilet.

The king on his throne.. +10 to myself for the effort it took to make this free to use nft

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Dome will open like this.

 

[CHIBEAR]

So they were right in not doing more for the Bear but should build a new stadium to draw another team? That's one of the finest examples of pretzel logic I've experienced. By the way, the nail in the coffin of the Bear leaving the City was not allowing them to build a sports Book nearby.

Bears pay to play and get zero revenue from parking or concessions. Good luck drawing another team to Soldier field under those conditions and if you think the tax payers are going to allow a new stadium without a favored team just for the chance to draw one, well, that's just goofy.

They are right in not trying to bail out the McCaskey's for generational cheapassedness .

They will build a world class stadium because even without the Bears the area is still a world class tourist destination . A new stadium will allow them to host bigger and better events even if they don't get another team but in no way would the city of Chicago or the state of Illinois build a stadium to essentially give to the damn Mcaskeys what type of pretzel logic is that .

How goofy is it to not understand the way the city works ? They could build a new stadium and keep every bit of dollars for themselves whether its naming rights , parking ,concessions and everything else . They then can put a sportsbook of their own in the building

The revenue earned from Soldier Field goes towards helping improve the Parks across the entire city and the McCaskey's have been here for ever and have basically no presence in the city and the taxpayers were never going to give them anything without them coming to the table with serious money and they never have. There are quite a few aldermen still on the city council who where around when the renovations got voted on . Why do you think there has been no out cry from any aldermen or other because they know who owns the Bears and why the situation is the way it is .

Prior to the Pandemic Soldier Field was pulling in 6+ million in the summer months via concerts and other events and somehow the city should give up that revenue and any future revenue for what ? What are the Bears who have made the playoffs 6 times in the last 25 years offering the city to give up that sort of revenue ?


The Mcaskeys after decades decided they want to own their own stadium well that's fine Im happy they have decided to do something for themselves for a change and to get off the cities tit but stop trying to make it seem as if the city is obligated to give the McCaskey's a stadium .

 

[Bearly]

They are right in not trying to bail out the McCaskey's for generational cheapassedness .

They will build a world class stadium because even without the Bears the area is still a world class tourist destination . A new stadium will allow them to host bigger and better events even if they don't get another team but in no way would the city of Chicago or the state of Illinois build a stadium to essentially give to the damn Mcaskeys what type of pretzel logic is that .

How goofy is it to not understand the way the city works ? They could build a new stadium and keep every bit of dollars for themselves whether its naming rights , parking ,concessions and everything else . They then can put a sportsbook of their own in the building

The revenue earned from Soldier Field goes towards helping improve the Parks across the entire city and the McCaskey's have been here for ever and have basically no presence in the city and the taxpayers were never going to give them anything without them coming to the table with serious money and they never have. There are quite a few aldermen still on the city council who where around when the renovations got voted on . Why do you think there has been no out cry from any aldermen or other because they know who owns the Bears and why the situation is the way it is .

Prior to the Pandemic Soldier Field was pulling in 6+ million in the summer months via concerts and other events and somehow the city should give up that revenue and any future revenue for what ? What are the Bears who have made the playoffs 6 times in the last 25 years offering the city to give up that sort of revenue ?


The Mcaskeys after decades decided they want to own their own stadium well that's fine Im happy they have decided to do something for themselves for a change and to get off the cities tit but stop trying to make it seem as if the city is obligated to give the McCaskey's a stadium .

Who said the city should build a new stadium? Oh that's right, it was you. Just not for the Bear and I never even implied they should do so for this team. WTF are you on about with this straw man bullshit? Grow up or by a clue depending on what generated this nonsense.

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

I've heard talk of the Bears in negotiations with the same people that built Allegiant Stadium. That is neither a open-air stadium or a retractable roof stadium. It's semi-translucent, meaning it let's some light in, but it is a domed stadium.

I will not go near a stadium in Arlington Heights for Packers Bears games that is not a fully open-air stadium. Even a retractable roof is a deal breaker for me. What, you are going to close the roof when it gets cold, rains, or snows? Seriously Bears?

I know some Bears fans have said to me: "Oh, come on, do you really think they wouldn't have a open-air stadium for Bears football?" Yes, I really do think that is very much possible, if not probable.

Won't catch me near it. Just like I have never gone near that joke of a stadium in Minnie.

There is a reason the Packers spend 17 mill+ every year on the upkeep of Lambeau. That doesn't include the bigger upgrade projects, including the project going on now which is 30% done, and is a over 200 million dollar project that will be completed for the start of the 2023 season.

Lambeau Field will never die!

OneTeamOneNation

PackerNation!

You’re going to compare a city of 300,000 to a metropolitan city of 9.5 million people? Of course there’s no fucking reason to upgrade the packers stadium. Just up-keeping is enough.

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

This isn't baseball. So, what is the retractable roof for? You going to close it every time it rains, is windy, snows, or is cold? Give me a break!

I knew Bears fans were soft, but I did not know they are wanting to get rid of real football like that played on Lambeau Field.

So retractable stadium teams are soft but you can’t beat the Cardinals in the divisional playoff game since when????