Lions Loss was the Dagger, Time to Move on to 2023

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I never thought they would actially make the playoffs, but that is why you play the games. The only reason they have meaning is because only one team wins the super bowl and only so many teams make the dance to get there.

Why even suit up? Why even watch? If there is nothing on the line and no pressure to win, its just a meaningless exhibition. These players are shoeing up just to develop and get some moral victories
You've got your answer. Go away.
 

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Keep losing boys, just calm Justin down, he does not have to kill himself this year. He should concentrate on his passing these next few weeks and run sparingly, we need him for next year and the year after....etc...
 

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sidenote: I'd rather watch the 2022 Bears than the 2014 Bears when they were omgstacked on offense. which one of you fucks is with me?
 

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do you think the players are idiots? you say its not about losing but you want to clearly put in inferior players for a youth movement and you dont think the players are going to care that flus is going back on his word? If your truly going for wins you dont put in inferior players...you might as well put an asterisk on the winning part...
I'm saying that before the Lioms game our playoff chances were still alive, albeit slim, and therefore winning in the short term took precedence. You play the best players and approach the game with the strategy that give you the best chance to win.

Now that our playoff chances are officially 1% you prioritize long term development over winning. You make decisions that are best for the longterm growth of your team. Winning still has some importance, but not the utmost. You still are not trying to actively tank.

Priorities:
1. Youth development and evaluation
2. Build player chemistry.
3. Experimentation of different plays/strategies to use next season.
4. Winning
5. Tanking for draft position.
 

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How much nicer would it be to be a wildcard team that still has ton on money to spend and their draftpicks, instead of a bottom 5 team with ton of holes and hard time recruiting free agents


I don't understand. We ARE NOT a wild card team is the point. You have to have a broken cerebral cortex to think otherwise, so...what are you saying?

We are who we are. A team with a QB who might or might not be the answer but who, for the first time, is showing some special traits on the field while also showing some concerning ones which is on brand for any 2nd year QB (he's got to be more accurate and figure out things faster, that's for sure and we are all praying he can evolve). And we have a defense which can't put ANY kind of pressure on the opposing QB and will get shredded by any offense in the NFL.

So you are saying that we still should be hoping this team gets incredibly lucky and somehow finds a way to win enough games this year to make the playoffs and then get their asses kicked? And then we are in better shape because we'll know more about this team versus us not getting into the playoffs?

No offense, but how's your cerebral cortex doing these days?
 

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Weren’t you and visionless the ones telling us how we were all going to be shocked and wrong when we talked about how bad the bears were going to be this year and you were taking names? Why the sudden change?

Props to you, you’re still here taking punches from your meatball prediction while gracing us with more bad ones.

Lol Velus Jones can’t catch the ball, so put him in, but ‘we’re not intentionally losing.’ ESB is the best run blocking wr and the bears go off tackle often so get rid of him when you’re carving teams up for 220+ on the ground? Young guys are getting reps on defense already. The offense can find tempo, they don’t finish drives. Passing is hard when your backup RT (and RG when he’s not hurt) are the only guys who can pass block.

Shame visionless can’t sack up and give us some more bad predictions.

Its not that I thought the Bears were actually going to be a really good football team, but moreso that they would exceed the 3 win/bottom 5 expectations. I thought 8-9 wins were very possible and that it wouldn't take much to win with our soft schedule. Previous seasons we took care of teams like the Commanders, Giants, Lions, Falcons, Jets, Texans. So far we are 1-3 against those teams

My biggest whiff was that I thought Bears would be able to find at least one decent receiver from the assortment of guys they brought in. I thought a new scheme, playcaller, and improved Fields would make the difference in the passing game and we would be able to fill the void of Arob considering he did have a down year. But nope, the receivers have been dreadful.

Fields is putting it together, but now is too late because we didn't provide him with decent receiving help in the RZ gainst the Giants/Commanders, proceeded to lose, and then felt the need to be sellers at the trade deadline.
 

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I don't understand. We ARE NOT a wild card team is the point. You have to have a broken cerebral cortex to think otherwise, so...what are you saying?

We are who we are. A team with a QB who might or might not be the answer but who, for the first time, is showing some special traits on the field while also showing some concerning ones which is on brand for any 2nd year QB (he's got to be more accurate and figure out things faster, that's for sure and we are all praying he can evolve). And we have a defense which can't put ANY kind of pressure on the opposing QB and will get shredded by any offense in the NFL.

So you are saying that we still should be hoping this team gets incredibly lucky and somehow finds a way to win enough games this year to make the playoffs and then get their asses kicked? And then we are in better shape because we'll know more about this team versus us not getting into the playoffs?

No offense, but how's your cerebral cortex doing these days?
No read the title of my post. The Lions loss was the dagger to the season. Our playoff chances are officially, mathematically, near dead. They are at 1%. Contrary to Madden philosophy, teams do try and win football ganes in hope of making the playoffs. They don't just show up and say, nope we aren't good enough to be a wildcard team, let's not try and win. They try to win, and with the schedule we had I thought it was entirely possible to win 8-9 games and be a WC team.

Additionally, It would have been nice to make the playoffs, because it means you won games when the pressure was on to win. You had guys step up and make winning plays when it mattered. For us, it would mean we are ahead of schedule and young guys were playing above expectations. That's what I was hoping and cheering for.

Losing means you aren't as good as the other team. You didn't make winning plays. Your players did not play up to expectations or were in line with low standards. I prefer this to not be the case even if it means we get a higher draft pick.

Did I simplify that down enough for you to understand?
 

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I'm assuming that teams that win more games and make the playoffs have fewer voids to fill on their roster when the offseason comes. You dont get to the playoffs by outright sucking. You have to win ganes and have players that make winning plays.

Therefore, when you have a young team with many players on cheap rookie contracts/prove it deals that wins enough ganes to make the playoffs...well, that's a really good thing. It means you have players playing above their contracts and you can spend your cap space on good players to fill the voids on the roster.

The 2020 Bears were different in that Trubisky was on his final year and we spent all our cap space. I dont think we were as far away though as some portray. We had to take some hits (Kyle Fuller) to the roster the next offseason..But all in all we had a winnable roster. Nagy was just a terrible play caller. We had Justin, just didn't have a staff to utilize him correctly.
Simply put, playoff teams are better than nonplayoff teams. But the point I am making is the Bears making the playoffs this season would not mean they’re closer to a super bowl. It would, in fact, be the worst thing for them.
 

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No read the title of my post. The Lions loss was the dagger to the season. Our playoff chances are officially, mathematically, near dead. They are at 1%. Contrary to Madden philosophy, teams do try and win football ganes in hope of making the playoffs. They don't just show up and say, nope we aren't good enough to be a wildcard team, let's not try and win. They try to win, and with the schedule we had I thought it was entirely possible to win 8-9 games and be a WC team.

Additionally, It would have been nice to make the playoffs, because it means you won games when the pressure was on to win. You had guys step up and make winning plays when it mattered. For us, it would mean we are ahead of schedule and young guys were playing above expectations. That's what I was hoping and cheering for.

Losing means you aren't as good as the other team. You didn't make winning plays. Your players did not play up to expectations or were in line with low standards. I prefer this to not be the case even if it means we get a higher draft pick.

Did I simplify that down enough for you to understand?

You want the team to overachieve for some reason. Because this roster, a majority of it, will not be here in the future.
 

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You want the team to overachieve for some reason. Because this roster, a majority of it, will not be here in the future.
It's not that I hoped a bunch of bad players would overachieve. It's moreso that I hoped the unknowns on our roster would step up and adequately fill some of our perceived weaknesses given the opportunity to play.
 

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It's not that I hoped a bunch of bad players would overachieve. It's moreso that I hoped the unknowns on our roster would step up and adequately fill some of our perceived weaknesses given the opportunity to play.
I think best case scenario they will be backups. better players will be acquired through draft or FA. some players have kind of broken out, so that's a positive. I wouldn't expect much else for this season other than it being purely for evaluating players.
 

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"At Soldier Field on Sunday, the Bears became the first team in NFL history to score 29 points or more and lose in three straight games. "

This is how bad the defense is
 

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"At Soldier Field on Sunday, the Bears became the first team in NFL history to score 29 points or more and lose in three straight games. "

This is how bad the defense is

Context

One game had a punt blocked for a TD and the other had a pick 6 for a TD
 

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What a terrible plan man.
I didn't think it was a great take because we were never getting to the playoffs but it's not a bad plan. The Bears need to see who the ballers are and they especially need to see if VJJ belongs.
 

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I didn't think it was a great take because we were never getting to the playoffs but it's not a bad plan. The Bears need to see who the ballers are and they especially need to see if VJJ belongs.
they don't even use him.

next.
 

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Didn't they trade away one of those picks for Claypool? Your "stud" QB has thrown for 200 yds once this season........once!!
And when the game is on the line he folds like a cheap suit.
Enjoy!!
Nice pick 6
Nice taking two sacks on the last two drives!
This might be the worst trash talking I've ever seen.

"Haha Justin Fields 8 TDs in the last 2 weeks! What an absolute LOSER OF A QB! LOL!

And the Lions are now in line to NOT draft a QB in 2023! JARED GOFF 4 LIFE!"
 
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you're stupid cunts if you thought this team had even a remote outside chance of making the playoffs. fuck yourselves.
If Poles had an inkling of what Fields could be before the season, known that the NFC was going to suck this year and had kept all of his defensive players, including Mack and Hicks, the Bears might have won a few more games, putting them in the mix for the 3rd wild card spot.

Now, it would be useless for the Bears to actually be in the playoffs because they are not a Super Bowl caliber team, and it was wise to add salary cap space for 2023 and beyond while also getting younger.

Also, Poles is a GM, not a modern-day Nostradamus.
 

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