Mac Jones arm strength

[Tillman33]

If you build the offensive line quarterback success will follow. Unless its the Browns.

I wish the Bears would punt QB this off season and focus all their resources on OL, take 2-3 years and become the Colts, rebuild the right way. Then watch how many QBs want to come here.

But jobs are on the line and they’ll never do it. They will sell out for another 8-8 year and 7th seed. Club 8 Dub baby

 

[Montucky]

I wish the Bears would punt QB this off season and focus all their resources on OL, take 2-3 years and become the Colts, rebuild the right way. Then watch how many QBs want to come here.

But jobs are on the line and they’ll never do it. They will sell out for another 8-8 year and 7th seed. Club 8 Dub baby

If the Bears find a good left tackle and a good right tackle they will ten maybe eleven games next year and everyone will keep their job. The NFC North is a mess.

 

[run and shoot]

Actually Young was a 'dual-threat' Qb. He got better as a passer when he hooked up with a guy who understood the passing game. Bill Walsh.

Right now Jackson is does not have a guy who understands the passing game in greg roman

I wouldn't call 25 yards a game a dual threat. He was a great passer that ran a when it was there

But he did his work through the air

Can't say the same for some of the QBs who are labeled dual threats

I get what you're saying, but you're looking at the latter day Young. I've been following him since he went to the USFL. Did u know coming outta BYU some of the pundits were suggesting he become a FB. So my point is he became a better passer under Walsh. He utilized all his skills better under Walsh.
The Ravens greg roman is not skilled at teaching the passing game.



Young on the move

Other highlights....... he combined mobility and passing

 

[Spitta Andretti]

I get what you're saying, but you're looking at the latter day Young. I've been following him since he went to the USFL. Did u know coming outta BYU some of the pundits were suggesting he become a FB. So my point is he became a better passer under Walsh. He utilized all his skills better under Walsh.
The Ravens greg roman is not skilled at teaching the passing game.



Young on the move

Other highlights....... he combined mobility and passing

So you're saying its Roman's fault that Jackson isn't an elite passer? Because this has been an opinion on Lamar long before Roman

 

[RubberBanMan]

I think Mac Jones will be better than 2 of Lawrence, Fields, Wilson and Lance.

He is too accurate, too good within the pocket, and too good at diagnosing and reacting to coverages not to be.

I agree. I honestly think jones might end up being the 2nd best qb this draft. I havent even bothered to look at lawrence and havent seen him play much so im just going off what most are saying regarding him. I really don’t see it with lance and i tried to like him. Wilson was my favorite a month or two ago but now im leaning towards bust with him the more i watched...same with fields.

And im a qb scout expert obviously (this sentence is sarcasm...really gotta point out the sarcasm on ccs)

 

[run and shoot]

So you're saying its Roman's fault that Jackson isn't an elite passer? Because this has been an opinion on Lamar long before Roman

Ljack has called out roman for being to predictable in the passing and play calling in general. I abhor using that "elite" word.
I think it's tossed around to much. One thing is for sure roman is not an "elite" OC. IDK if you've been following it but the Ravens recently hired some new coaches to help roman in the passing. Yeah I've heard what the pundits have said about
Ljack, "hb at Qb",yadi yadi. And as mentioned earlier the pundits said Young could be FB.

Here's Ljacks passing #'s college and pro. I'll let you judge

 

[jerkstore]

Mac is fine but I think I’d much rather use the first on on a plug and play guy and then try to find a way to land Trask in the second if he’s still there.

QB is so much about intangibles that it’s a beast to get it right. Montana and Brady were obviously not specimens, but they were/are smart, accurate, and resilient winners that people rally around.

I kinda like Penix and JT Daniels for 2022 better than any of this year’s dudes, but what do I know?

Besides, why is Pace taking a QB in the first if he’s fighting for his job? He needs a vet.

 

[bearsfan1977]

I agree. I honestly think jones might end up being the 2nd best qb this draft. I havent even bothered to look at lawrence and havent seen him play much so im just going off what most are saying regarding him. I really don’t see it with lance and i tried to like him. Wilson was my favorite a month or two ago but now im leaning towards bust with him the more i watched...same with fields.

And im a qb scout expert obviously (this sentence is sarcasm...really gotta point out the sarcasm on ccs)

Lance scares me more than any other QB. It’s interesting how Mac Jones is the opposite of Mitch in terms of traits and some still don’t want the Bears to roll the dice on him. They should be drafting QBs early until the position gets figured out.

 

[Leomaz]

I wish the Bears would punt QB this off season and focus all their resources on OL, take 2-3 years and become the Colts, rebuild the right way. Then watch how many QBs want to come here.

But jobs are on the line and they’ll never do it. They will sell out for another 8-8 year and 7th seed. Club 8 Dub baby

Jobs on the line also mean they need to make sure the future is set as well. It’s not just win in 2021 it’s win consistently every year. 8-9 or 9-8 isn’t going to cut it

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

Jobs on the line also mean they need to make sure the future is set as well. It’s not just win in 2021 it’s win consistently every year. 8-9 or 9-8 isn’t going to cut it

As long as the McCaskeys keep making money and friends,. I think they are 100% okay with being 8-8, 9-8.

 

[Leomaz]

As long as the McCaskeys keep making money and friends,. I think they are 100% okay with being 8-8, 9-8.

I don’t. They want to make even more money....everyone does who owns an NFL team. No owner is okay with being 8-9 and missing they playoffs. The McCaskeys would rather be 11-7.....12- 6 and consistently in the playoffs then just making money.

 

[Pegger]

I posted this in another thread, but when you look at some of the greatest QB classes of all time there are 1-4 QBs that end up having good to great careers. As soon as you get past the first batch of guys those lower tier prospects rarely make it.

That's if I'm comparing this draft to something like the 83 class, which had Elway, Marino and Kelly. Those were by far the best of the class, but there were also guys like O'Brien and Eason, who were above average.

Anyway, that's looking at the best QB class if all time. I'm thinking this group will fall way short of that. I'm mentioning this only to add perspective. Having the 5th or 6th QB drafted in the best QB class didn't turn out well. The way I see Mac Jones is that he's in the conversation to be the 5-6th best of this class.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

I don’t. They want to make even more money....everyone does who owns an NFL team. No owner is okay with being 8-9 and missing they playoffs. The McCaskeys would rather be 11-7.....12- 6 and consistently in the playoffs then just making money.

You would think all owners want to be a successful organization and make the playoffs consistently, but there is hardly any evidence that supports that with the McCaskeys. They always say they want to be better, but they never act on it. What ownership keeps a terrible President just because they are friends?

 

[TexasBearfan]

i saw a mock this morning that had jones going to atlanta early, i'm wondering if he'll drop far enough for the beloved

 

[Southside]

Didn’t Joe Morrow, Trevor Lawerence, and Tua have elite teams? He practiced well in Senior Bowl. I think he has got the it factor where it comes to accuracy and knowing where to throw the ball.

Athletically is a different beast, but that can be improved over time. I tired of seeing Bears QB take a sack due to not reading plays, over throwingWRs, or throwing the ball where WRs can’t get YAC.

It's true that Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence were surrounded by talent but both Lawrence and Burrow have significantly more college experience and game tape than Mac Jones. Mac Jones is going to the league with less than 20 starts and had great receivers so the questions are legitimate in terms of how good he truly is.

 

[Mdbearz]

I think the Bears should not be afraid to get Jones in the draft. We have seen many times that the position that you were drafted does not correlate to how your career will go. Examples include, Rogers and Mahomes were not taken at the top of the draft, but they were taken in the first round.

RGIII was taken by the Redskins and then they turned around and took Cousins in the 4th round... and while this may not have turned out for the WFT, they were not sitting back and hoping the 1 guy that they drafted would be the savior.

I don't want the Bears to get a vet or draft a QB and then claim that they have solved the issues at QB. I want them to draft another one next year or bring in another Vet.......

Until they learn that the feelings of a QB in the NFL need to be challenged, we will never have a QB that is going to compete at the highest level.

 

[PickSix]

I posted this in another thread, but when you look at some of the greatest QB classes of all time there are 1-4 QBs that end up having good to great careers. As soon as you get past the first batch of guys those lower tier prospects rarely make it.

That's if I'm comparing this draft to something like the 83 class, which had Elway, Marino and Kelly. Those were by far the best of the class, but there were also guys like O'Brien and Eason, who were above average.

Anyway, that's looking at the best QB class if all time. I'm thinking this group will fall way short of that. I'm mentioning this only to add perspective. Having the 5th or 6th QB drafted in the best QB class didn't turn out well. The way I see Mac Jones is that he's in the conversation to be the 5-6th best of this class.

Marino was the 6th QB drafted in that class. No reason that Jones can’t be a special QB being the 4th or 5th off the QB board. More than likely, history shows there will a failure or two in that group ahead of him.

 

[Midway Monsters]

Two Bear QBs with cannons were Bobby Douglass and Vince Evans.

and Jay Cutler