Matt Garza Trade Discussion Thread***Update, 60-day DL'ed

[dabynsky]

Rosenthal says that Garza isn't elite enough, and Upton would have to waive his NTC and we don't have time to do the dance to get him to waive it.

 

[DewsSox79]

why upton? he.blows.

 

[dabynsky]

Seriously, a 24 year old with 30 HR power and a good defender blows. He was in a terrible slump, but I would love to add a guy with his skillset and age.

 

[DewsSox79]

Seriously, a 24 year old with 30 HR power and a good defender blows. He was in a terrible slump, but I would love to add a guy with his skillset and age.

sure but he is a FA in 2015 when the cubs are projected to contend. he does nothing for the rebuilding process. the only positive is he plays out of his mind and you can trade him for specs next deadline as the cubs are running out of mlb talent to actually get specs back.

 

[Rice Cube]

sure but he is a FA in 2015 when the cubs are projected to contend. he does nothing for the rebuilding process. the only positive is he plays out of his mind and you can trade him for specs next deadline as the cubs are running out of mlb talent to actually get specs back.

I think he'd only be 27, about to enter his prime, so there's a reason you at least think about it. I'd rather get younger, less expensive pieces though but this isn't exactly a fail deal if it happens.

 

[dabynsky]

sure but he is a FA in 2015 when the cubs are projected to contend. he does nothing for the rebuilding process. the only positive is he plays out of his mind and you can trade him for specs next deadline as the cubs are running out of mlb talent to actually get specs back.

We've been over this one. Are you really telling me that in 3 years the Cubs couldn't afford to get a superstar player on their roster? The $ isn't unimportant, but the biggest factor is his age. In 2015 he will be just hitting his peak physical years and should be a monster. This isn't happening so this is merely fun to talk about, but it would be huge add for the Cubs.

 

[DewsSox79]

i guess there is no talks with AZ

 

[DewsSox79]

We've been over this one. Are you really telling me that in 3 years the Cubs couldn't afford to get a superstar player on their roster? The $ isn't unimportant, but the biggest factor is his age. In 2015 he will be just hitting his peak physical years and should be a monster. This isn't happening so this is merely fun to talk about, but it would be huge add for the Cubs.

Just going by what EVERYBODY is saying as far as analysts go. 2015 is the year and general thought.

 

[dabynsky]

Yeah everything I've heard is that the D'Backs aren't in on Garza to begin with. This is merely a fun thought experiment like the article I wrote a couple weeks ago about Castro for Upton.

 

[Rice Cube]

Just going by what EVERYBODY is saying as far as analysts go. 2015 is the year and general thought.

It's the most realistic timeline if they build and don't add on, I agree.

The prospect development and progress might accelerate or delay that timeline as well. That's up to the front office to decide but I'm not holding my breath until 2015, just going to see what happens opcorn:

 

[dabynsky]

Just going by what EVERYBODY is saying as far as analysts go. 2015 is the year and general thought.

And that is what I am SAYING. He will be 27 at 2015 when this team is going to go for it. That is entering your peak right at the time the competitive window is opening.

 

[WindyCity]

A lot of the talk is that it is a pitched above Garza's ability levels. Though you can of course sign me up for that deal.

Offer Garza and Brett Jackson for Upton.

 

[85Bears4life]

JIM BOWDEN ‏@JimBowdenESPNxm

Matt Garza deal to Diamondbacks will not include Upton if they can come to an agreement according to a source

 

[dabynsky]

Patrick Corbin has been scratched, and Diamondbacks would make sense for Dempster as well. Not the blockbuster.

 

[WindyCity]

A lot of the talk is that it is a pitched above Garza's ability levels. Though you can of course sign me up for that deal.

The Cubs have to get PAID for for Garza.

I wish I was hearing better names.

 

[WindyCity]

A lot of the talk is that it is a pitched above Garza's ability levels. Though you can of course sign me up for that deal.

It is disappointing that Garza did not go.

Considering the hype I would say that this was a losing trade deadline for the Cubs.

 

[Rice Cube]

Garza made a baby:

http://muskat.mlblogs.com/2012/08/01/731-congrats-to-the-garzas/

He can still be traded at the waiver deadline, but more likely this offseason.

 

[Rice Cube]

Speculation that he might go on the DL too.

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/12358/garza-timetable-suggests-dl-move-upcoming

 

[Jntg4]

Garza tweeted before the birth earlier something along the lines of "Been in the hospital for 5 hours, kids are so stubborn!"

 

[Rice Cube]

Carrie Muskat ‏@CarrieMuskat
Sveum says he'd be surprised if Matt Garza returns this season. He's on DL with stress reaction right elbow. #Cubs

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