Matt Nagy: Bears, including self, didn't handle success in 2018

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Doesn’t change the fact the run game instantly got worse the second he arrived, terrible game management, and looney play calls…all things that you can’t point/blame the QB. Let’s not forget the narrative was Mitch sucked and Foles was going to be able to run the brilliant offense. Nagy benches Mitch and the offense and foles never looked worse.

people can wait and see all they want not sure what they think they’re going to learn. Nagy is completely in over his head and completely unadaptable and stubborn to a fault. Also delusional. The offense SHOULD look better but does anyone have confidence Nagy will maximize the personnel and squeeze every last drop of opportunity on offense? It’s a certainty that won’t happen because he’s a below average OC

Yep.

2021 mantra: We have to fire Nagy before he ruins Fields.

I can hear it already.

Nagy's biggest fault was continually running the same plays that he called in Kansas City without the players from Kansas City. He had problems adjusting to his player's weaknesses.

All these. Nagy is the Roaring Kitty of the NFL, but without the scores. I've never seen a guy put such an emphasis on big plays and touchdowns and then have offenses that look like complete basura.

He's already talking about how he loves JF's "rip your heart out" mentality/throws.. Hey, buddy, let's get this ship to sea worthy first, eh? How about we doing something, ANYTHING, with a little consistency before you bust nuts for all these alleged 75yd TDs..
 

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All these. Nagy is the Roaring Kitty of the NFL, but without the scores. I've never seen a guy put such an emphasis on big plays and touchdowns and then have offenses that look like complete basura.

He's already talking about how he loves JF's "rip your heart out" mentality/throws.. Hey, buddy, let's get this ship to sea worthy first, eh? How about we doing something, ANYTHING, with a little consistency before you bust nuts for all these alleged 75yd TDs..
Roaring kitty…that’s perfect
 

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So he learned his lesson no more dumb trick plays to kill successful drives? Doubt it
 
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Roaring kitty…that’s perfect

I'm saying! For real though, someone in the media corps should ask him straight up:

"What would you say that you are most proud of in regards to what your offense does consistently well?"

.. his answer would be fascinating, and likely damning.
 

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I'm saying! For real though, someone in the media corps should ask him straight up:

"What would you say that you are most proud of in regards to what your offense does consistently well?"

.. his answer would be fascinating, and likely damning.
“Well, you know, for us and myself, we’ve had to adapt to a few different quarterbacks and that’s not all that unique to other teams around the league, but offensively, we stick together and as we work through this thing, we fine tuned some stuff and did a better job of finding out what works, what doesn’t work, and we’re still sorting through that even today with Andy and with Justin.”

Long story short, absolutely nothing because Nagy sucks
 

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“Well, you know, for us and myself, we’ve had to adapt to a few different quarterbacks and that’s not all that unique to other teams around the league, but offensively, we stick together and as we work through this thing, we fine tuned some stuff and did a better job of finding out what works, what doesn’t work, and we’re still sorting through that even today with Andy and with Justin.”

Long story short, absolutely nothing because Nagy sucks
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Doesn’t change the fact the run game instantly got worse the second he arrived, terrible game management, and looney play calls…all things that you can’t point/blame the QB. Let’s not forget the narrative was Mitch sucked and Foles was going to be able to run the brilliant offense. Nagy benches Mitch and the offense and foles never looked worse.

people can wait and see all they want not sure what they think they’re going to learn. Nagy is completely in over his head and completely unadaptable and stubborn to a fault. Also delusional. The offense SHOULD look better but does anyone have confidence Nagy will maximize the personnel and squeeze every last drop of opportunity on offense? It’s a certainty that won’t happen because he’s a below average OC
the run game wasn’t great in 2018 but it wasn’t bad either. Jordan Howard definitely didn’t help in 2018 either. go watch tape on the offensive line the last 2 seasons, they are soft as cotton and got 0 push up front. how do you blame a coach for shitty personnel?

Foles was supposed to fix it, but he has 0 arm talent and mobility, not great for what he had in terms of protection. that’s an indictment on Nagy’s player evals not X’s and O’s. problem was Mitch lost his balls and was afraid to run, which would have helped.

the play calling argument is such recency bias. go back to 2018 and 2019 when Mitch was airmailing wide open targets until nagy had to DUMB DOWN the offense for him. I expect that to look better with Fields and Dalton honestly.
 

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Yeah in retrospect maybe treating regular season wins against opponents well below .500 like it was the Super Bowl was a bit overkill.
 

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the QB who you blame on Nagy is a back up in Buffalo, who no NFL franchise was willing to take even a gamble on as a starter. let it go.
Wasn’t foles a SB MVP though? And has a historic season under his belt? Sure looked like a pile of dung last season…except when he was chewing out Nagy on the sidelines for calling a timeout when they were marching and allowing the D to sub. Looked good there
 
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Nagy is such a tool. He has been around elite level football ( pro, college) for over 20 yrs, he acts like it was a shock that teams didn't roll over for them after the 2018 12-4 season.

All his revisionist history bullshit, we would have won the Super Bowl and we were rockin'.

They wouldn't have won the SB and it was Vic and his defense that were rockin'. Dude was exposed as a fraud when Vic left and unless, after no one worth a fuck would take the job, the lucked into lightening in a bottle with Desai , he will be a goner sooner rather than later.
 

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Nagy is such a tool. He has been around elite level football ( pro, college) for over 20 yrs, he acts like it was a shock that teams didn't roll over for them after the 2018 12-4 season.

All his revisionist history bullshit, we would have won the Super Bowl and we were rockin'.

They wouldn't have won the SB and it was Vic and his defense that were rockin'. Dude was exposed as a fraud when Vic left and unless, after no one worth a fuck would take the job, the lucked into lightening in a bottle with Desai , he will be a goner sooner rather than later.
Agree about Nagy. Hopeful desai is the real deal. Time will tell
 

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Nagy is such a tool. He has been around elite level football ( pro, college) for over 20 yrs, he acts like it was a shock that teams didn't roll over for them after the 2018 12-4 season.

All his revisionist history bullshit, we would have won the Super Bowl and we were rockin'.

They wouldn't have won the SB and it was Vic and his defense that were rockin'. Dude was exposed as a fraud when Vic left and unless, after no one worth a fuck would take the job, the lucked into lightening in a bottle with Desai , he will be a goner sooner rather than later.

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