Mike Glennon Expected To Land 14-15 Mil Per Season

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If the Bears honestly believe that Kaaya/Peterman is the best qb in the draft and needs to sit for a year to fix whatever needs fixing, I guess I could see the reasoning in what they're doing. This then means they won't draft this qb at 3. I could see them trading out of the 3 spot if they get Glennon, to acquire more picks and draft Mahomes/Kizer/Defensive stud in the latter part of the first round. Who knows, Glennon could turn out to be ok.

I'm ok with them thinking that x QB will be better later on , what I'm not understanding is throwing a ton of cash at a bad to mediocre QB when have that already?
 

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If the Bears honestly believe that Kaaya/Peterman is the best qb in the draft and needs to sit for a year to fix whatever needs fixing, I guess I could see the reasoning in what they're doing. This then means they won't draft this qb at 3. I could see them trading out of the 3 spot if they get Glennon, to acquire more picks and draft Mahomes/Kizer/Defensive stud in the latter part of the first round. Who knows, Glennon could turn out to be ok.
But why Glennon at $14M (if true), why not just Hoyer, whom is much more experienced and would be a better and more willing mentor than Glennon who still thinks he is an NFL starter?

Now Glennon at $5-7M would be a whole other conversation.
 

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Blame Lovie and McNown. Glennon played pretty well under the circumstances in the 5 games he got start that year, his 14th through 18th career starts. One win and 2 overtime losses, thanks Lovie. Had an 84 passer rating when Mccown had a 70 in the same circumstances. Your last sentence is simply stupid as TB want to make him the highest paid backup in the league.

Riiiight, the DID want him as the highest paid backup. He turned it down, like a dumbass. Then, the current coach/GM, had another year to look at him daily, and aren't even going to offer him league minimum to get them water. He's shit, get over it. And said QBs, are part of why Lovie got fired. But hey, you know more than the team he plays for, and the locals that see this bum all day. :smug2:
 

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I just realized that Josh McNown has the distinction of starting games for the last 3 teams to have the #1 or #2 pick in the draft. :beer:
 

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I cannot see Glennon being the starter in 3 years time, so if Pace see's him as a steady bridge and draft a QB in second or bottom of first then I'd be OK with the move.... However I fear Pace will bottle drafting a QB which will end his tenure at the end of next season.

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I'm ok with them thinking that x QB will be better later on , what I'm not understanding is throwing a ton of cash at a bad to mediocre QB when have that already?

Hoyer was fine between the 20s but utterly impotent in the red zone. He's great at picking out the right receiver for YAC but doesn't have the talent to make the plays when it counts. I have to hope that Glennon can at least do better. I don't know how many more eight-minute drives I can see end in a missed FG before I go postal.
 

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I just can't believe Pace is hanging this teams future on the Human Fucking Periscope who is nothing more than a career backup and who had a FA QB signed and a top pick used to play in front of him. Does he think this will sell tickets?

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I just realized that Josh McNown has the distinction of starting games for the last 3 teams to have the #1 pick in the draft. :beer:

And Glennon couldn't even beat him out of a starting job. This is NOT someone you sign for $15M and try to "build around", unless you're trying to get fired.
 

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But why Glennon at $14M (if true), why not just Hoyer, whom is much more experienced and would be a better and more willing mentor than Glennon who still thinks he is an NFL starter?

Now Glennon at $5-7M would be a whole other conversation.

bears need deep tds according to fox.. hoyer = 1 win....???
 

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Riiiight, the DID want him as the highest paid backup. He turned it down, like a dumbass. Then, the current coach/GM, had another year to look at him daily, and aren't even going to offer him league minimum to get them water. He's shit, get over it. And said QBs, are part of why Lovie got fired. But hey, you know more than the team he plays for, and the locals that see this bum all day. :smug2:

You obviously know jack about shit. So now he's a dumb ass for making an extra $5 or 6m a year. You are rally weak on cause and effect when it comes to Lovie.
 
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And Glennon couldn't even beat him out of a starting job. This is NOT someone you sign for $15M and try to "build around", unless you're trying to get fired.

Maybe that's the plan? Sort of a football version of The Producers?
 

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But why Glennon at $14M (if true), why not just Hoyer, whom is much more experienced and would be a better and more willing mentor than Glennon who still thinks he is an NFL starter?

I'm ok with them thinking that x QB will be better later on , what I'm not understanding is throwing a ton of cash at a bad to mediocre QB when have that already?

I think it could be that they already know what they have in Hoyer. Maybe they think they might get lucky and strike gold and hope Glennon has improved since the last time he played. He has a 2:1 TD to Int ratio. If Glennon has improved, now you have a pretty good qb at only 14M/year and you could use him for trade bait or extend him long term. If he hasn't improved, I guess it was just an expensive qb. We are used to paying a shit ton of money to qbs for below average performance. I don't know to be honest. I'm just speculating, obviously.

Obviously, all of this is assuming that he thinks one of the tier2 qbs is the best qb in the draft who just needs a little fixing. If he thought a Tier1 guy was the best, then I would just draft that guy and let him start day 1.
 

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Riiiight, the DID want him as the highest paid backup. He turned it down, like a dumbass. Then, the current coach/GM, had another year to look at him daily, and aren't even going to offer him league minimum to get them water. He's shit, get over it. And said QBs, are part of why Lovie got fired. But hey, you know more than the team he plays for, and the locals that see this bum all day. :smug2:

u sees him all day??..

whuts the last thing you sawed him do
 

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And Glennon couldn't even beat him out of a starting job. This is NOT someone you sign for $15M and try to "build around", unless you're trying to get fired.

Totally outplayed McCown. 83 to 70 rating in conditions that no one could play great. Lovie was just being Lovie, awesome clock management, losing overtime games and playing a known he brought in instead of the more talented sophomore. He's the QB and clock management guru!
 

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I am with you. I know I am repeating myself, but to me, the 'benefit' of going with Glennon as your starting QB is that you can use the #3 overall pick on (shudder) BPA because you've already obtained your starting QB. What I don't get is signing Glennon and still drafting a QB #3 overall...why?

Could be because the position is so important and he wants to hedge his bet by doubling down. Maybe Pace has none of little faith in Fox and Loggains that he wants to diversify his investment. Maybe Pace has little faith in himself and wants to spread out his options. Maybe he wants to throw Fox a lifeline to save his job this year meanwhile further his own vision by drafting the future of the franchise?

These are the possibilities I can guess to but who really knows what's going on in Pace's head.
 

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I am with you. I know I am repeating myself, but to me, the 'benefit' of going with Glennon as your starting QB is that you can use the #3 overall pick on (shudder) BPA because you've already obtained your starting QB. What I don't get is signing Glennon and still drafting a QB #3 overall...why?

I would think giving Glennon the guarantee that you're not taking a QB at 3 would be part of the incentive to sign here. Wouldn't preclude a trade down but I suspect #3 at QB would be out. Good or bad, it would mean Pace doesn't think these guys worthy. Not so sure about that part but also not so sure Mahomes isn't as good a prospect as Kizer or Watson either. Does that make him worth #3 or the others worth #23?
 

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I would think giving Glennon the guarantee that you're not taking a QB at 3 would be part of the incentive to sign here. Wouldn't preclude a trade down but I suspect #3 at QB would be out. Good or bad, it would mean Pace doesn't think these guys worthy. Not so sure about that part but also not so sure Mahomes isn't as good a prospect as Kizer or Watson either. Does that make him worth #3 or the others worth #23?

I'm no Mahomes guy by any stretch, I doubt he will ever be an NFL starter. But I could live with this over some flaccid dick like Peterman who has the upside of a Kyle Orton. Glennon/Peterman would be like using cold urine as after shave.
 

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But thats a huge problem in itself. "Doubling down" creates a new problem, because you are using the #3 overall pick as 'insurance' against a Mike Glennon signing.

I think it's the other way around. The #3 pick would be expected to take the job but they'd still have Glennon if the draft pick busted and/or Glennon turned out to be really good.
 

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If we are drafting a QB at #3 (which we should), I see no reason for Glennon at all, especially at a telephone number salary. Hoyer or the rookie start game one, I really don't care how that works out. Totally fine.
 

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Why would Glennon sign with the Bears then? And wouldn't it be almost a given that Glennon would look better than the rookie initially?

Because unlike Tampa, Chicago would give him the chance to get on the field and showcase himself. If he plays well he becomes trade bait and earns himself a starter contract somewhere. Win-win for him and the Bears. If he's solid but the rookie busts, he's the Bears' starter. Either way, he's getting a chance to establish himself as a starting QB which he wouldn't get in Tampa, even if they did make him the highest paid backup.

And how would Glennon 'develop' into being 'really good' if he's 2nd string like he's been at Tampa? Neither QB is a finished product or a known quantity, so its still a gamble that they would both suck. I just don't get how two young, unproven QBs will develop at the same time.

I didn't say he'd develop, just that he may play well enough kick start his career.
 

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