Mike Smith Huge Dive

[dlrob315]

 

[Pez68]

How many times have you seen an offensive skater touching, skating into, or putting his stick on goalie and not getting called for it? I see it every single NHL game.



Anyone remember not that long ago when Brett Hull didn't but did score the Cup winning goal by illegally, but legally being in the crease? Remember why they put that rule in place? Why did they get rid of it?

Who cares? Goalies are hockey players too. As long as guys aren't checking them, or impeding their ability to save the puck, who really gives a ****? A goalie isn't a QB. They should be given no special treatment aside from the "cannot hit" treatment they are currently given. And, I feel that, if the goalie is going to come out behind the net, and stickhandle the fucking puck like a forward, you SHOULD be able to "body" them off the puck. If the puck is in the crease, forwards are entitled to that ice just as much as the goalie is. That is even MORE true when they are OUTSIDE of the crease. The special treatment that goalies get is ridiculous. Toews gets a GTI penalty when Smith comes OUT of the crease and throws a check on him? Give me a fucking break. The more goalies dive and embellish, the less I give a **** if they get run.

 

[FourFeatherFury]

So, a bit of a tangent... How fucking crazy is the UC gonna be tonight?

 

[MassHavoc]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH It should say 3 game fatality at the end.

 

[MassHavoc]

AHAHAHAHAH THESE ARE GETTING BETTER AND BETTER!

 

[FourFeatherFury]

Interviewer [to fuckstick Dave Tippett]: With Mike Smith as a game time decision, are you at all rethinking that he should've finished last game...?



Tippshit: No... He was fine...



Interviewer: But he's not fine now, necessarily?



Tippshit: Well... We'll see.





Yeah, we'll see, after Shanny decides to suspend Shaw. Thats some classy shit, Phoenix.

 

[bierboy]

Dude, you say some stupid shit from time to time. This team is the last group of guys to go all Broad Street Bullies and lose their cool in favor of acting out.

Bullshit....we've seen them do it before. I don't expect them to, all I'm saying is they need an extra measure of focus tonight because of the Shana-****** circus...

 

[BigPete]

Who cares? Goalies are hockey players too. As long as guys aren't checking them, or impeding their ability to save the puck, who really gives a ****? A goalie isn't a QB. They should be given no special treatment aside from the "cannot hit" treatment they are currently given. And, I feel that, if the goalie is going to come out behind the net, and stickhandle the fucking puck like a forward, you SHOULD be able to "body" them off the puck. If the puck is in the crease, forwards are entitled to that ice just as much as the goalie is. That is even MORE true when they are OUTSIDE of the crease. The special treatment that goalies get is ridiculous. Toews gets a GTI penalty when Smith comes OUT of the crease and throws a check on him? Give me a fucking break. The more goalies dive and embellish, the less I give a **** if they get run.

Dude i agree that they are fair game anywhere but there are rules in the book for some things and they are being completely ignored at times. Don't have a rule against contact with the goalie if you aren't planning on enforcing it. Thats what i meant.

 

[the canadian dream]

Im pissed I just heard the news.



Leagues a joke

 

[Shantz My Pants]

I was beyond pissed when I heard about the suspension.



A guy can slam another guys head into the boards, deliberately, after punching him in the back of the head. Another guy can literally commit an assault on a defenseless opponent, have a prior suspension, only sit one game. A guy who has no priors, runs into the other teams goalie (who is fine) and attempts to avoid the hit, gets slapped with a 3 game suspension?



Shits weak!!

 

[Tyralyon]

Fucking outrageous. You know when 95% of other teams fans agree with you (hell, even some Nucks fans), something isn't right.

 

[MassHavoc]

I just want to clarify that we are mostly outraged at the NHL inconsistency and not that he got punished right? I'm ok with a punishment or fine if its consistent around the league.

 

[BigPete]

I just want to clarify that we are mostly outraged at the NHL inconsistency and not that he got punished right? I'm ok with a punishment or fine if its consistent around the league.

I agree with that...but 3 games is nuts. Hell one game is still iffy

 

[roshinaya]

Yeah, it's the inconsistency. 3 games is a joke. A fine or perhaps a game, but 3 games, complete farce. The NHL is a total bushleague when it comes to things like this. It starts on the ice with shit officiating and goes up to the disciplinarian who has no clue on what he is doing.



The next CBA better include clear instruction on supplementary discipline and far higher fines, than the current "beer money" that it is today. I would be in favour of a base number of suspended games for different infractions with additional tacked on depending on other factors, such as injury. Intent must always be the starting point. And the criteria for adding games should also be clearly stipulated. Along with a suspension there should also always be a fine, which could be a certain percentage of the players salary and it should be high enough for them to feel it. And players are to be judged equally! No more BS like it is today that the status of a player factors in on the supplemental discipline, stars get off far easier than grinders and rookies. With clearly stipulated rules on suspensions it should be able to curb the wild inconsistencies we see today.



And the issue of diving and embellishment should also be addressed. We see this sort of behaviour increasing already and implementing a system that I just described would surely mean that players would be looking out to milk it as much as possible. I think that players known to dive and embellish should be put on a public list so that the officials and fans know who to look out for.



And as for the inconsistent officiating, I would like to see a transparent and independent organ that would be evaluating officials over the season and be able to suspend or fine officials who do a bad job. As it is know they are above any criticism and scrutiny and I don't think it's healthy. And there should be a process for teams to file grievances against officials if they feel that they have done a bad job. I almost think that officials should be paid on performance.

 

[jakobeast]

I am not keen on a player getting suspended more games if someone gets injured. If it is suspendable, then suspend him. Obviously, if there was intent, like McSorely or Happy Gilmore, there should be something else. However, in some cases, that player shouldn't be in the league, imo.

 

[BigPete]

I am not keen on a player getting suspended more games if someone gets injured. If it is suspendable, then suspend him. Obviously, if there was intent, like McSorely or Happy Gilmore, there should be something else. However, in some cases, that player shouldn't be in the league, imo.

I agree here. The first decision point in supplemental discipline must always be the offenders record for this illegal activity. Repeat offenses get an extra game of suspension with every new infraction.



I also don't think 'intent to injure' should ever be brought into it. "Did you mean to hit him?" is not the same as "Did you mean to hurt him?". How can anyone claim to know what a player is thinking. Every guy will pull the prison line, "I dint do nuffin man!"

 

[klemmer]

Off to NYC he goes.... http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=628445

 

[the canadian dream]

And what happened to Hossa and every other player who has suffered an injury due to an illegal careless hit is why those who dive and embellish should also be punished. It makes a mockery out of those who actually do get hurt and it makes a mockery out of real injuries and the seriousness of them. It just adds onto the problems and dumb downs the fans.

 

[Rex]

I just realized something about the Smith dive, and the other goalies in this thread will back me up. The gloves flying off.



Blockers, and more so Trappers, are on tight. Very tight. Much tighter than regular hockey gloves. They really have to be if we are snagging 90mph shots with our trapper.



for them to come off, you basically pull them off. Watch Crow or other goalies when they go to grab a drink. Crow pulls his trapper off by sandwiching it between his body and his other arm. They don't just COME OFF. I've never met a goalie that plays with lose goalie gloves.

 

[klemmer]

I just realized something about the Smith dive, and the other goalies in this thread will back me up. The gloves flying off.



Blockers, and more so Trappers, are on tight. Very tight. Much tighter than regular hockey gloves. They really have to be if we are snagging 90mph shots with our trapper.



for them to come off, you basically pull them off. Watch Crow or other goalies when they go to grab a drink. Crow pulls his trapper off by sandwiching it between his body and his other arm. They don't just COME OFF. I've never met a goalie that plays with lose goalie gloves.

Have you ever seen a catch glove fly off their hand and into the net? Usually one time will cure them of that!



I wear my blocker looser, but it's still snug.