mlb draft june 8th-10th starts at 6 p.m. ET tomorrow

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How do we find out who the scouts for each of these picks were?
I'd be concerned about a structural/communication issue in the scouting process. Each scout knows the future missing pieces..ie a lefty CF and lefty pitching. So each scout wants be the org hero and puts up these positional need guys as his BPA to say he found the missing piece for the organization.
Hope my skepticism is wrong.

Um... as far as the scouts go you can probably find out who the area scouts were on the cubs site. But it's not really just one scout looking at most of these guys. I would wager that the organization itself scouts the top 500 players which is well past the 10th round. After the top 500 guys you might get scouts pushing for guys the like for whatever reason but I mean mlb.com itself has the top 200 guys listed. You have to imagine MLB teams go far deeper than that.
 

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Cubs draft RHP David Berg in the 6th round

Fangraphs/mlb.com don't have any tool rankings on him. Listening to the draft itself they basically talked about him as a college reliever. I'm guessing the cubs are hoping to save a bit of money on him as I think he's a Sr. out of UCLA. But they talked about him being a guy who racked up a ton of innings in relief and him being a submarine pitching like(I believe) Chad Bradford was the name they used.

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6th Round (173): David Berg, RHP, UCLA. A submarine righty reliever who has been dominant, Berg was getting a ton of love from Jonathan Mayo on the broadcast. Berg set a Pac-10 record for appearances. He’s a senior, so this may be an under slot situation, but it sounds like there’s big league relief potential.

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We signed Soriano.

Astro's are having a great draft. They are so full of talent.
 

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Submarine relief specialist. Bring him up now. We need him. LOL

It wouldn't surprise me to see him in AAA by the end of the season if he pitches well. He's a college senior who's been pretty dominant in a big baseball conference.
 

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We signed Soriano.

Astro's are having a great draft. They are so full of talent.

Considering they have $17.3 mil in slot money($3.3 mil more than the #2 Rockies) they better. The cubs at #9 have $7.2. The #2 pick COMP they got was worth more than the cubs entire draft pool($7.4 mil).
 

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In the 7th the cubs take RHP Craig Brooks. Senior pitcher. Probably another slot savings attempt.

7th Round (203): Craig Brooks, RHP, Catawba College. A senior pitcher and shortstop, Brooks was announced as a pitcher, so you can figure that’s how the Cubs expect to utilize him. Although his hitting stats this year are decent, his pitching numbers are overwhelming: 1.45 ERA over 99.0 innings, 158(!) strikeouts and 34 walks. He’s a senior sign at this spot ($211,300 for his slot here), so the Cubs may have picked up a little flexibility in the last two spots. Depending on how they do with Happ and Dewees, that could help them lock down someone like Wilson.
 

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Just realized that the whole 1-10th round thing I mentioned earlier was probably innaccurate. I was thinking that was how long compensation went through(which it might still). However, the reason you want to be pretty sure guys in 1-10th are signable is because if you don't sign them you lose their slot money. That happened to the Astros last year. Because they failed to sign Aiken that cost them another person(Nix IIRC) because they needed Aiken's slot money.
 

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In the 8th cubs RHP Preston Morrison from TCU

8th Round (233): Preston Morrison, RHP, TCU. So many TCU starters went in this draft. Morrison has fringy to average stuff, according to Jim Callis, but he’s been steady and has a variety of usable pitches. Minor League Ball ranked Morrison as the 333rd prospect in the draft.

Seems like another signablity guy to save some slot money.
 

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In the 9th the cubs take Tyler Peitzmeie.

They talked about him as a middle reliever but mostly a senior sign guy. My guessing Wilson is gonna cost well over slot because they have basically taken 4 straight signablility guys.

Another senior sign for the Cubs ($162,800 here), Peitzmeier was the closer for Cal St. Fullerton this year, making 30 appearances (57.1 innings), posting a 2.20 ERA with 58 Ks and 11 BBs.

By my math, the Cubs may have saved about $750,000 against their pool in the last four picks. If they save anything on Happ and don’t have to go over slot on Dewees, could see them already up to about $1 million. Some of that might go to Turner and Wilson in rounds three and four, but there might be some for some reaches tomorrow.
 

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In the 10th the cubs take Vimael Machin another SR guy.

10th Round (293): Vimael Machin, SS, VCU. Machin looks like another senior sign to close out the day ($152,000 slot here), and he hit .339/.401/.441 this past year. He was ranked 337 by BA, and is one of the better seniors, it seems.
 

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Astro's are having a great draft. They are so full of talent.

Yep. Cubs again disregard TOR potential. Will continue to bite them in the ass when they need front line starters and have to resort to paying 31 year olds big money.
 

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Only guy I like so far is Kellogg. Looks like a CJ Wilson type. Puts the ball in the zone, doesn't walk a lot, gets decent K rate, also generates balls in play.

Everyone else--turdbuckets. Thanks.....Theo.
 

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Yep. Cubs again disregard TOR potential. Will continue to bite them in the ass when they need front line starters and have to resort to paying 31 year olds big money.

Who did they pass on that is TOR? I know a couple got picked before them at 9, but which pitchers that they passed on do you wish they picked?
 

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Only guy I like so far is Kellogg. Looks like a CJ Wilson type. Puts the ball in the zone, doesn't walk a lot, gets decent K rate, also generates balls in play.

Everyone else--turdbuckets. Thanks.....Theo.

You gotta have the inventory if you are going to trade for pitching. Eventually, teams are going to want hitters, so having a surplus is a good thing.
 

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Who did they pass on that is TOR? I know a couple got picked before them at 9, but which pitchers that they passed on do you wish they picked?

Aiken, Bickford, Buehler, Eshelman.
 

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You gotta have the inventory if you are going to trade for pitching. Eventually, teams are going to want hitters, so having a surplus is a good thing.

Or....here's a wacky idea--develop your own top talents at pitching and hitting.

A surplus is a good thing, but having empty TOR potential will kill this team. Pierced Johnson will have to pitch like someone he's not to make the cubs serious..
 

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Or....here's a wacky idea--develop your own top talents at pitching and hitting.

A surplus is a good thing, but having empty TOR potential will kill this team. Pierced Johnson will have to pitch like someone he's not to make the cubs serious..

Carson Sands, Jake Stinnett, Justin Steele and Dylan Cease should become more dominant as time goes on. The top 2 right now are Underwood and Edwards. Johnson can not keep healthy. Jeremy Null is another that should gain helium in the rankings. He is #28 on MLB's Cubs rankings and should rise as he matures.
 

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Underwood: A+ 5-2 2.15 ERA 1.03 WHIP. SO a bit low. 6.12 k/9

Null A: 6-1 1.75 ERA 1.06 WHIP 7.07 K/9 He has come out of nowhere this year.

Trevor Clifton A: 2-4 3.83 ERA 1.18 WHIP 9.42 K/9. He has some projection still. 6'4" frame. FB tops out at 96 right now. Tight spin on his curve.

Cease had TJ but his FB topped out at 97. He may end up a steal for the Cubs. Was considered 1st round talent pre injury.

Steel has not pitched yet. They are working on some of his flaws. Tipping his change up. Mechanical error. Adding more power to his curve. But he is a lefty that can get it up to 95 but loses life to it. Sitting around 88-92 it adds late movement.

Stinnett: 2-2 6.10 ERA 1.90 WHIP at A ball. 23 YO so he is rushed. Sinker pitcher at 92-94. Can hit 97 on the gun. Has a hard slider and a change he is working on as a 3rd pitch. Projects as a #2 starter and he is being pushed up aggressively. Makes sense that his numbers are meh in his first year.

Sands had the most upside of the Cubs lefties in the system. Not sure now with Hudson. 6'8" 220 as a HS? Best offering is a curve. This kid could end up nasty as his fastball improves.

Kellog is a pitch-ability type. Too much contact. Pretty much a avg stuff but knows how to pitch. So Hendricks type.
 

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It amazes me that the cubs draft arguably the two best hitters in the minor leagues the past 3-4 years(Schwarber/Bryant) and people are complaining about who they drafted. That's also after building undoubtedly the best farm system in the majors prior to all the recent call ups and after having built another very very good farm system at their previous organizations.

As far as pitching goes, they nailed Arrieta for next to nothing. They've turned Hammel who was a bit of a joke as a 4/5 guy into a fringe all-star player. They presently have a former top 15 prospect in Turner rehabbing. If they get him right and there is significant reason to believe they can, that's all the TOR you need for the next 4-5 years without even talking about who they've drafted.

Also, why are we even that worried about the cubs starters? They are presently 8th in the majors with a 3.75 ERA. That's with their huge money investment in Lester having a 4.25 ERA which is the worst among the 5 present starters. Given what Bosio has shown, I honestly couldn't care less what the cubs have in terms of pitching because he has already gotten the best out of pitchers who arguably have no right being as good as they were. It's similar to the late 90's early 2000 Cardinals when Dave Duncan was making any random pitcher off the street into an All-Star.
 

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