North Korea shells South Korea

[MassHavoc]

And if I remember right, which I am not sure I am, it was a failure. The underground test did blow up, but it was a failure, and didn't blow up properly.

I am pretty sure you are remembering correctly. It's be like them testing a space shuttle who was ready to launch and the pilots got in and pushed the go button and the shuttle didn't go anywhere cause it was missing rockets boosters or a fuel tank or something.

 

[Kerfuffle]

They don't have a delivery mechanism yet and that was the 'failure' I recall. However, they were able to enrich uranium and able to successfully detonate a small nuclear device. That is pretty concerning. Putting it on a rocket is the next step. Don't underestimate them - we're not dealing with a full deck over there.

 

[MassHavoc]

I believe the detonation was a failure as well. As Jako said, it blew up, but not correctly.

 

[supraman]

Just read the wiki article on the F-22s (skimmed is a better term) it looks like the maintenance issues with the platform are improving. I still think we would dominate China's air force.

 

[Kerfuffle]

I believe the detonation was a failure as well. As Jako said, it blew up, but not correctly.

I remember it was reported the US satellites were able to detect nuclear emissions from the test. I'm not a nuclear scientist but it's still concerning even if chemically or technically they still have a bit to go. They seem to be on the right track here.

 

[LordKOTL]

I remember it was reported the US satellites were able to detect nuclear emissions from the test. I'm not a nuclear scientist but it's still concerning even if chemically or technically they still have a bit to go. They seem to be on the right track here.

You get nuclear emissions from a smoke alarm--doesn't mean the bomb went supercritical. I read as well that the bomb failed to go supercritical, and as such has a sub-kiloton yeild. Thus, if nothing else it was a dirty bomb.



Personally, I don't see why you're so worried--it's not like you live on the west coast.

 

[Kerfuffle]

You get nuclear emissions from a smoke alarm--doesn't mean the bomb went supercritical. I read as well that the bomb failed to go supercritical, and as such has a sub-kiloton yeild. Thus, if nothing else it was a dirty bomb.



Personally, I don't see why you're so worried--it's not like you live on the west coast.

Well their leader isn't exactly sane or stable so we should all be concerned regardless if they are 10% or 100% ready to launch nukes.

 

[supraman]

Well their leader isn't exactly sane or stable so we should all be concerned regardless if they are 10% or 100% ready to launch nukes.

Realize this, he launches his one nuke at us. We make NK glow Nuclear green for 5000 years.

 

[Kerfuffle]

Realize this, he launches his one nuke at us. We make NK glow Nuclear green for 5000 years.

Agreed - kinda. One would have to weigh China's response and them not wanting nukes detonating off their border since they run adjacent to North Korea. But the US would respond in some fashion even if only conventional means. Bill Clinton said it best during his presidency in that "the day Kim Il Song launches a nuke at us, believe me his best day was yesterday". One of the best statements from our commander in chief.

 

[supraman]

Agreed - kinda. One would have to weigh China's response and them not wanting nukes detonating off their border since they run adjacent to North Korea. But the US would respond in some fashion even if only conventional means. Bill Clinton said it best during his presidency in that "the day Kim Il Song launches a nuke at us, believe me his best day was yesterday". One of the best statements from our commander in chief.

I am pretty sure but not positive that it is US policy that if attacked with a WMD is to return the attack with a WMD of our own.

 

[TSD]

I believe the detonation was a failure as well. As Jako said, it blew up, but not correctly.

who had the bright idea to make assHavok a moderator.

 

[supraman]

who had the bright idea to make assHavok a moderator.

I dunno but they made me one too, so every is fucked.

 

[MassHavoc]

Now you're gonna get it bobby....

 

[LordKOTL]

My point, fuffle, is that awhile back N. Korea tested a missile that has about 5000 miles range--essentially offshore of the Western US, Which means they can put a sub-hiroshima warhead off my home with a lot of effort. Not only would they have to extend the range of a missile almost 2000 miles to hit Chi-town, but they'd also have to shoot over Canada (a missle track to Seattle or further south would put it south of Alaska), meaning plenty of warning and chance to shoot it down.



And my point to this? The PacNW experienced a blast of 1600 times that of Hiroshima back in 1980 (approx 24 Megatons), and usually has one of those every 50-100 years or so (see also: Mount St Helens). If me, in a potential warhead's path isn't worried, why should you be?

 

[Ymono37]

who had the bright idea to make assHavok a moderator.

BRILLIANT!

 

[MassHavoc]

BRILLIANT!

Yeah, never heard that one before.....

















oh.. and BAN!

 

[jakobeast]

Agreed - kinda. One would have to weigh China's response and them not wanting nukes detonating off their border since they run adjacent to North Korea. But the US would respond in some fashion even if only conventional means. Bill Clinton said it best during his presidency in that "the day Kim Il Song launches a nuke at us, believe me his best day was yesterday". One of the best statements from our commander in chief.

It is concerning they enriched uranium and so on. If I did my research like I should, I would know more. Again, I think that wa all they had and it would take them a very long time to get enough for another nuke.



I have no doubt that if North Korea, or any nation for that matter, were to lob a nuke at us, response would be swift and decimating. I would even be willing to bet that we wouldn't be the only nation to respond.

 

[Kerfuffle]

My point, fuffle, is that awhile back N. Korea tested a missile that has about 5000 miles range--essentially offshore of the Western US, Which means they can put a sub-hiroshima warhead off my home with a lot of effort. Not only would they have to extend the range of a missile almost 2000 miles to hit Chi-town, but they'd also have to shoot over Canada (a missle track to Seattle or further south would put it south of Alaska), meaning plenty of warning and chance to shoot it down.



And my point to this? The PacNW experienced a blast of 1600 times that of Hiroshima back in 1980 (approx 24 Megatons), and usually has one of those every 50-100 years or so (see also: Mount St Helens). If me, in a potential warhead's path isn't worried, why should you be?

I worry about the nut job running that country - an insane man with a button is not good. Even if that button isn't quite working yet, it's still a matter of time I believe until they will have a nuke. And it may not hit us here in the US but we have 28,000 US servicemen and women in South Korea who could be wiped out by it. Just seems like a powder keg over there to me.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

hahahahah you mods made fuffle immune to rep.... priceless.

 

[supraman]

I worry about the nut job running that country - an insane man with a button is not good. Even if that button isn't quite working yet, it's still a matter of time I believe until they will have a nuke. And it may not hit us here in the US but we have 28,000 US servicemen and women in South Korea who could be wiped out by it. Just seems like a powder keg over there to me.

But you fail to realize that crazy or not I'm pretty sure Kim Jong Il realizes he nukes someone the US likes, he'd dead. Not figurative, no literally we will crush him and his country. So with that he won't launch. The only people I fear ever getting a nuke are terrorist factions that are not linked to a government. They have nothing to lose, they like dying and seeing virgins. No government will ever launch a nuke in anger ever again. They deterrents but even with that they are useless items.