OFF8CIAL: Found a sucker for Bickell

[clonetrooper264]

I hear Carolina has a big LW with a wicked wrist shot.... he can hit and do board battlez.... only costs 4M.... we should inquire.

Wow that sounds great!

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

This does give the Hawks some flexibility, so I'm interested to see what Bowman does with it.

Signing Shaw to a bridge deal doesn't solve much, especially at the rate I think He'll get (3 years 10-12 million).
There are still glaring holes on the offensive side, an aging Hossa, Toews having a down year and the whole 3 D men that need help.
There are rumblings about Campbell or Ladd signing 1 year deals, but do they really want to lose a lot of pay for a team that may just be good and not great?

TT will develop, but none of us are really sure into what. Jay Z on the Score thinks TT can be a 55-70 point player. I think he hits the high mark once, but TT is still young, so there's the upside there.

The other liability is players being lost to the LV expansion draft, so Bowman may be getting as much worth out of these guys before you lose them for absolutely nothing.

I think 16-17 is going to be a good year and the Hawks are due for a round 2 exit.

 

[GSH_34]

I have one thought on this; fuck the hard cap.

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[BlackHawkPaul]

I have one thought on this; fuck the hard cap.

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The cap is a contested topic, but no salary cap would ruin the NHL.
There would be teams not even coming close to competing (like the Blackhawks before the 04-05 lockout).

 

[GSH_34]

The cap is a contested topic, but no salary cap would ruin the NHL.
There would be teams not even coming close to competing (like the Blackhawks before the 04-05 lockout).

I'm not saying no cap is the answer. But a luxury tax of some sort for home grown talent would be nice or something like that.

Provide a team some flexibility for doing things the right way and having success.

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[DMelt36]

Signing Shaw to a bridge deal doesn't solve much, especially at the rate I think He'll get (3 years 10-12 million).
There are still glaring holes on the offensive side, an aging Hossa, Toews having a down year and the whole 3 D men that need help.
There are rumblings about Campbell or Ladd signing 1 year deals, but do they really want to lose a lot of pay for a team that may just be good and not great?

TT will develop, but none of us are really sure into what. Jay Z on the Score thinks TT can be a 55-70 point player. I think he hits the high mark once, but TT is still young, so there's the upside there.

The other liability is players being lost to the LV expansion draft, so Bowman may be getting as much worth out of these guys before you lose them for absolutely nothing.

I think 16-17 is going to be a good year and the Hawks are due for a round 2 exit.

The way the lines look right now, the 1st line has no wingers. Assuming the 2nd line is 72-15-88 and Hossa gets a more appropriate third-line role ... there's no one to skate with Toews right now. And that seems like a serious problem.

 

[fatkid73]

Panik was just resigned to a 1-year deal.

 

[DMelt36]

Panik was just resigned to a 1-year deal.

THE SEASON IS SAVED!

Seriously though, I like Panik as a depth winger. Good 4th liner in spurts last year.

 

[clonetrooper264]

The way the lines look right now, the 1st line has no wingers. Assuming the 2nd line is 72-15-88 and Hossa gets a more appropriate third-line role ... there's no one to skate with Toews right now. And that seems like a serious problem.

I'm spinning the Q line wheel with my likely faulty knowledge of the roster at the moment

Panik-Toews-Shaw
Panarin-Anisimov-Kane
Fleischman-Desjardins-Hossa
Mashinter-Kruger-Weise

Definitely not ideal for Toews

 

[ClydeLee]

dick panik to the rescue

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[BlackHawkPaul]

The way the lines look right now, the 1st line has no wingers. Assuming the 2nd line is 72-15-88 and Hossa gets a more appropriate third-line role ... there's no one to skate with Toews right now. And that seems like a serious problem.

I just wish they call 72-88-? the #1 line.
That's where all the magic happens.
The next hurdle is to find a winger that gels with Toews. It may have to be 81 until they do. Shaw (if signed) will probably scoot all over the place depending on matchups.

I'm not saying no cap is the answer. But a luxury tax of some sort for home grown talent would be nice or something like that.

Provide a team some flexibility for doing things the right way and having success.

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Can you explain a bit further?
So if drafted by the parent club, a player can circumvent the hard cap? I'm just trying to figure out your theory on how to postulate a cap resolution.

 

[ClydeLee]

I just wish they call 72-88-? the #1 line.
That's where all the magic happens.
The next hurdle is to find a winger that gels with Toews. It may have to be 81 until they do. Shaw (if signed) will probably scoot all over the place depending on matchups.


Can you explain a bit further?
So if drafted by the parent club, a player can circumvent the hard cap? I'm just trying to figure out your theory on how to postulate a cap resolution.

Who is they? Q doesn't name them. If he did maybe the line that never goes out 4th and mostly plays against other top 6 would be the 3rd line aka the Kruger line.

I like the nhl system over the bs NBA overages and cap manipulation.

It's just a shame the nhl cap didn't instantly go away after the 09 summer... or after that November when Keith signed his deal

 

[clonetrooper264]

Clone stick to Basketball, those lines suck outside of 2nd line. First Weise, flesch are UFA along with Mash. Desi is better on wing

Should look like
? 19 88
72 15 ?
65 22 81
14 ? 11

I never said they were good or accurate. My hockey knowledge sucks

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Who is they? Q doesn't name them. If he did maybe the line that never goes out 4th and mostly plays against other top 6 would be the 3rd line aka the Kruger line.

I like the nhl system over the bs NBA overages and cap manipulation.

It's just a shame the nhl cap didn't instantly go away after the 09 summer... or after that November when Keith signed his deal

Most places/people refer to Toews+____+____ as line 1.
As far as the (argument for no) cap, yes it benefits Chicago tremendously.

 

[Diehardfan]

Most places/people refer to Toews+____+____ as line 1.
As far as the (argument for no) cap, yes it benefits Chicago tremendously.

It does/or would and it's a damn shame. It's supposed to be a bridge for the small market teams to compete but all it's turning out to be is a penalty that well managed franchises have to pay.

 

[ClydeLee]

Most places/people refer to Toews+____+____ as line 1.
As far as the (argument for no) cap, yes it benefits Chicago tremendously.

I remember some game down in March or APril before the playoffs still there was some team in a meeting referring to the AK72 line(thats right bringing the thing that never became a thing back) as the 1st line and some tweets about it being smacktalk at toews or all that happneing.

 

[Spunky Porkstacker]

I just wish they call 72-88-? the #1 line.
That's where all the magic happens.
The next hurdle is to find a winger that gels with Toews. It may have to be 81 until they do. Shaw (if signed) will probably scoot all over the place depending on matchups.


Can you explain a bit further?
So if drafted by the parent club, a player can circumvent the hard cap? I'm just trying to figure out your theory on how to postulate a cap resolution.

Guessing he's thinking of the NBA's Larry Bird rule that allows a team to re-sign their own player and go over the cap to keep that player.

 

[LordKOTL]

1st off, cue the Handel.

2nd, yeah, losing T² sucks, but he was Charmin™ soft. He had some upside but if that's what it took that what it took.

3rd: Ladd didn't help. The only way I see him resigning is if we ditch Shaw.

4th: According to the cap now on CF (no Panik info, yet), we have 6 FWD slots and 1 D slot to fill and 9M and change to do it in--about 1.3M per player. The good news is that most of the players should be 1M or less we can slot from in the system. Keeping Shaw at 3M or less is do-able. If Panik is under 1.3M it's a good signing.

 

[Bigfoot]

Since we trade Bigfoot, I might have to come up with a new name. Thanks Stanbro

 

[Bigfoot]

1st off, cue the Handel.

2nd, yeah, losing T² sucks, but he was Charmin™ soft. He had some upside but if that's what it took that what it took.

3rd: Ladd didn't help. The only way I see him resigning is if we ditch Shaw.

4th: According to the cap now on CF (no Panik info, yet), we have 6 FWD slots and 1 D slot to fill and 9M and change to do it in--about 1.3M per player. The good news is that most of the players should be 1M or less we can slot from in the system. Keeping Shaw at 3M or less is do-able. If Panik is under 1.3M it's a good signing.

Panik signed for less. 875,000 was the number I saw