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You didnt answer the question. What info are you claiming the NFL had indepedent of Tua that points definitively to a concussion?

There is a difference between a process being flawed and a process being grossly negligent in a tortious sense.
I did answer the question. I told you it didn't matter. Because he doesn't have to show that the NFL knew it was a concussion because, as I already said, it's about the outcome, that they let him play with a concussion. And then fired the doctor who treated him.
 

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And would you be saying this if he was outstanding in a Bears uniform last year, or is this one of those things where you just have a narrative and aren't going to let anything get in the way of it?

If he was outstanding then I would probably be pissed as that might mean we won more games. I said from start best outcome this season would be foe Fields to progress and for us to have worst record so we can get a draft pick. Never cared about Claypool's numbers this year.
 

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If he was outstanding then I would probably be pissed as that might mean we won more games. I said from start best outcome this season would be foe Fields to progress and for us to have worst record so we can get a draft pick. Never cared about Claypool's numbers this year.
Well he didn't really progress, but that's not a conversation even worth having with this lot.
 

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I did answer the question. I told you it didn't matter. Because he doesn't have to show that the NFL knew it was a concussion because, as I already said, it's about the outcome, that they let him play with a concussion. And then fired the doctor who treated him.

The official record says it was not a concussion and Tua agreed it was not a concussion. So not sure how you can claim it was a concussion without presenting evidence of that alleged fact.

You realize the standard of evidence in court is higher than CCS logic, "it was a concussion because I said so."
 

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Well he didn't really progress, but that's not a conversation even worth having with this lot.

Oh really so he didnt have more TDs and combined yards than last year?
 

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Lots of drafts had WR's that nobody thought would be #1 type WR's in the NFL and got drafted outside the 1st round only to become #1 WR's in the NFL. There's nobody in this world that can say what kind of careers any of these kids will have at the next level so lets just hope the Bears are the next team to find that #1 WR after the 1st round. There's no exact science to these drafts.
Oh, in that case, I agree with you. Maybe the confusion is that since this is Wide Receiver Draft Z, people think that means no #1. Now, I don’t think there’s really a lot of good Xs. That doesn’t mean no #1’s.
 

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Oh really so he didnt have more TDs and combined yards than last year?
Well you would hope with significantly more attempts so too would come more touchdowns and yardage. He also had more interceptions and fumbles, though... womp womp.
 

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The official record says it was not a concussion and Tua agreed it was not a concussion. So not sure how you can claim it was a concussion without presenting evidence of that alleged fact.

You realize the standard of evidence in court is higher than CCS logic, "it was a concussion because I said so."
They fired the person who made that determination, based on the determination, right?
 

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The official record says it was not a concussion and Tua agreed it was not a concussion. So not sure how you can claim it was a concussion without presenting evidence of that alleged fact.

You realize the standard of evidence in court is higher than CCS logic, "it was a concussion because I said so."
Jesus Remy, don't you ever find yourself rambling for pages/days on end and think you should shut the fuck up?
 

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Well you would hope with significantly more attempts so too would come more touchdowns and yardage. He also had more interceptions and fumbles, though... womp womp.

Are you really this stupid? His completion %, TD%, passer rating, YPA, and QBR all went up. His Int% actually went down from 3.7% to 3.5%. His TD% doubled from 2.6% to 5.3% so that accounts for difference in attempts jackass.

In addition, his yards per rush and and TD per rush also increased significantly so he did progress.
 

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Are you really this stupid? His completion %, TD%, passer rating, YPA, and QBR all went up. His Int% actually went down from 3.7% to 3.5%. His TD% doubled from 2.6% to 5.3% so that accounts for difference in attempts jackass.

In addition, his yards per rush and and TD per rush also increased significantly so he did progress.
You're so excited to prove something that if it were actually true would be so apparent that we wouldn't have to argue about it.
 

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They fired the person who made that determination, based on the determination, right?

The statement makes clear Tua blamed his stumbling on the back and ankle injuries and did not complain of any symptoms consistent with a concussion. He passed the concussion exam.

They fired him because of public reaction and he was a convenient scapegoat. He followed their protocols and nothing in the record claims Tua had a concussion. This is a joint statememt so the NFLPA signed off on their conclusions contained therein.

So again any lawsuit would have to actually start by producing some evidence of a concussion as none was presented and get around the fact that Tua is on record blaming back and ankle injuries and not claiming any concussion like symptoms.
 

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You're so excited to prove something that if it were actually true would be so apparent that we wouldn't have to argue about it.

What a dumb response. There are always stupid people in the world who believe things despite all evidence to the contrary. The stats showed improvement. Sorry that hurts your feelings.
 

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What a dumb response. There are always stupid people in the world who believe things despite all evidence to the contrary. The stats showed improvement. Sorry that hurts your feelings.
His rookie year he was a significantly below the baseline for acceptable starting quarterback play. His second year he was significantly below the baseline for acceptable starting quarterback play. You want to argue the varying degrees he was the worst or near the worst quarterback in the NFL each of his first two seasons? You're missing the forest for the trees.
 

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His rookie year he was a significantly below the baseline for acceptable starting quarterback play. His second year he was significantly below the baseline for acceptable starting quarterback play. You want to argue the varying degrees he was the worst or near the worst quarterback in the NFL each of his first two seasons? You're missing the forest for the trees.

Nope I said he progressed. He did per the stats. You were wrong. That is all.

I wasnt arguing anything. You felt the need to chime in disputing my opinion because you have been hating on Fields all season. The topic wasnt even Fields but Claypool but you are so fixated on Fields you couldnt help yourself.
 

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His rookie year he was a significantly below the baseline for acceptable starting quarterback play. His second year he was significantly below the baseline for acceptable starting quarterback play. You want to argue the varying degrees he was the worst or near the worst quarterback in the NFL each of his first two seasons? You're missing the forest for the trees.
You might actually be ret@rded.
 

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