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Would it help you stop bleeding all over the board to know the only reason Bears paid that much was because the Packers were also offering their 2nd round pick and Bears had to increase their offer?
It really shouldn't help anyone. If bears end up with a shit wr because packers were trying to get him, I'll be more sad the packers didn't get him
 

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It really shouldn't help anyone. If bears end up with a shit wr because packers were trying to get him, I'll be more sad the packers didn't get him
Obviously but he's not bitching about what we don't know yet he's bitching about what is known now.
 

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This O needs guys who can block and catch passes. There really isnt an outside zone team that prioritizes TEs who cant block. So while Washington is similar to Kmet in size and blocking he is faster and more agile and can attack downfield more.

If you really want someone with more speed then Kuntz can be had on day 3 and at 6-7 and 255 and a RAS of 10 can hold up as a blocker inline as well as play Flex/slot. He just needs more seasoning.
I mean I think it’s time to treat Claypool as the move TE like you always wanted.
 

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That kinda makes the point for going with WR or another position with our 1st round since Edge/DE is so deep you can draft them in the 2nd or 3rd round. You could go JSN or whatever position in the 1st and go DE-DE with both 2nd round picks, that's of course if we trade down and add another 2nd round pick which it sounds like we will.
Nah...........With this deep of an edge class, I would rather take the best two guys at the top and have bookend DE's. As for WR's I would go for a quality TE over any of the WR's in this class.
 

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It really shouldn't help anyone. If bears end up with a shit wr because packers were trying to get him, I'll be more sad the packers didn't get him

I believe the point is his market value at the time was a 2nd round pick. Doesnt really matter what meatball Bears fans think his value was. At least 2 NFL teams valued him as a 2nd round pick.

I mean I think it’s time to treat Claypool as the move TE like you always wanted.

I would agree unless we get a true slot WR like a JSN or Josh Downs. Putting Clyapool in the slot would also aid the run game.
 

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Lamar Jackson played 3 seasons in college. He completed 54.7, 57.2 and 59.1%. Josh Allen was 56 and 56.3%

Richardson is a tremendous athlete who likely can get 700-1000 rushing yards in the NFL with 7-10 TDs. That is a good floor foe a QB.

He is also going to play this year ar age 22. So basically 2-3 years to improve accuracy and he will still be just 24 or 25.

Think he easily goes top 10 and quite frankly likely he goes top 5 now.

I completely agree!! He is going to be drafted VERY high. I still don't believe he'll amount to anything above a mid level NFL QB. He is a tremendous athlete, but he doesn't possess JF's skill set. I have never been a fan of Lamar as a QB. My opinion is Young and Stroud both turn out to be much better than he does, but he will be overdrafted, and part of that is due to LJ and JF.
 

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I mocked drafted himz and put him at LG months ago.. Id still be down if the Bears draft him
I like him because of where he might go, somewhere like 5th or later. He’s like what we should be looking at in this draft.
 

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I believe the point is his market value at the time was a 2nd round pick. Doesnt really matter what meatball Bears fans think his value was. At least 2 NFL teams valued him as a 2nd round pick.
And let’s not forget, in this draft, he’d be the top X and, possibly, the only WR some would project as a number 1 due to his physical profile. Again, IN THIS DRAFT, you’d all be happy to have drafted him with a second. He is a much better prospect than Quentin Johnson. Much. Better.
 

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Take him over any of the WR's in this class.

Kincaid really doesnt add much. He is pretty much the same size as Claypool and a comparable blocker. So why spend a draft pick on a player whose skill set really can be replicated by Claypool?
 

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Explosiveness yes.
Typically you're Qb is not going to be running a most plays ( like a "wishbone Qb"). For a Qb, the 40 time might be a much better gauge / indicator as to "Explosiveness" and/or mobility .

The vertical jump is more apropos for Wide receivers, defensive backs, pass rushers. Wide receivers, defensive backs, pass rushers can improve draft stock most via a good vertical jump.

Note: please copy and paste.....anything u may disagree with...Thanks.

Not sure your point. Whether they are running on most plays or not it is useful on the plays they are running. Further Richardson is likely to be used like how Fields was last year. He is a bigger and faster version of Fields but less accurate so he will be relying on running more than most QBs.

For a running QB acceleration is more important than top end speed because QBs tend to be run alot after a fefender already is bearing down on them so you need to escape quickly. Thus a guy that can accelerate and get to top speed quickly is better than someone who is more of a long strider and takes a while to get to top speed.


remydat said:.....Not sure your point.

Here's my point: Typically you're Qb is not going to be running a most plays ( like a "wishbone Qb"). For a Qb, the 40 time might be a much better gauge / indicator as to "Explosiveness" and/or mobility .
The vertical jump is more apropos for Wide receivers, defensive backs, pass rushers. Wide receivers, defensive backs, pass rushers can improve draft stock most via a good vertical jump.





remydat said:........Further Richardson is likely to be used like how Fields was last year.

Fields unfortunately had to run and/or use his improvisational skill set because of poor pass pro and questionable wr route route running & separation. This has been discussed ad nauseam by many here. Respectfully, bringing up JF
is kinda moving into the realm of a strawman-red herring type extrapolation.

As for Richardson, you nor I know how he will be utilized....?truth. Please read this again.

We don't know who will draft Richardson or what type of talent will surround him i.e. solid pass pro OL and solid wr's.

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So again my point IS ........Typically you're Qb is not going to be running a most plays ( like a "wishbone Qb").

My additional point is..........
The vertical jump is more apropos for Wide receivers, defensive backs, pass rushers. Wide receivers, defensive backs, pass rushers can improve draft stock most via a good vertical jump.



Note: please copy and paste.....anything u may disagree with... as we don't want to get off course. And please review the bolded points made.......Thanks.
 

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