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The WR class may well be underrated, but I believe the value of this class starts in the third round.
**OFFICAIL** Bears 2024 Regular Season News & Schleisse - FTO Preferred - No ALTS! Derailing Is Discouraged!
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Packers have been a perennial playoff team. 16 times in the last 22 years. Sometimes you can try too hard to fit things into your narrative.
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Except I believe Kincaid is the better player.
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All of what you said is irrelvant. You said why it would be relevant to a QB and I told you why. How much he runs doesnt change the fact it is relevant to a running QB. What is typical of a QB is also irrelevant as you just admitted we dont know how he will be used.
The only thing that is relevant is what potential info does it tell a team and it tells a team that Richardson is a potentially explosive runner.
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I don't know why he did it. Chase Claypool is fucking horrible, the best thing for the Bears future is getting rid of him.
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I have loved Kincaid since I saw him play sometime in October, I think. He is a mirror of Claypool: athletic upside and big, but not a lot of football experience. As a Move/U TE, I like Kincaid. I don’t see it as redundant to get them, but I would go as far as to say, at this point, that he’s the better player. I like Claypool as an X and Kincaid as UTE.
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We have holes on this team with much bigger gaps in talent. Kincaid over Claypool isnt as big an upgrade as say Anderson over Gipson or even JSN over Dante Pettis or ESB or VJJ.
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Of two stupid teams the Bears proved themselves the most stupid. Wow, what an accomplishment. Somehow the Steelers were very keenly aware how garbage the Bears were and how nice it was to steal their second rounder from them.
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The vertical jump is more apropos for Wide receivers, defensive backs, pass rushers. Wide receivers, defensive backs, pass rushers can improve draft stock most via a good vertical jump.
I want want a Qb who's intelligent, can process, improvise when needed, show leadership, be a passer etc. The last thing I care about is leaping ability. If you wanna say I'm "mentally deficient" for expecting the previous attributes in my Qb......then guilty as charged.
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You are lying. You know why he did it. You just dont agree with the move and are being stupid about it.
At this point you are just employing confirmation bias. You will take any info and try to have it fit your narrative.
A smart person admits Poles traded for Claypool for the future and that they traded their 2nd because the team they have been chasing for decades wanted him. None of which changes the fact it could still be a bad trade.
But because you are not a smart person you will stupidly pretend you dont know why he made the move or that the Pack are a bad team despite making playoffs 16 out of past 22 years.
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The vertical jump is more apropos for Wide receivers, defensive backs, pass rushers. Wide receivers, defensive backs, pass rushers can improve draft stock most via a good vertical jump.
This is NOT "irrelevant" cuz you say so. .....and want to push "the running Qb" narrative.
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Its called scouting. Its what they are paid to do.
They traded for Chase Claypool because of what he did in the first ten or so games of his rookie year. There would be no apparent reason to give up more than fifth or sixth rounder for him if you were to scout him based on what he had done the year and a half before he was dealt.
And Ryan Poles didn't even know his own team well enough to know they fucking sucked and the pick he was dealing away was actually gold. The Steelers knew though.
They traded for Chase Claypool because of what he did in the first ten or so games of his rookie year. There would be no apparent reason to give up more than fifth or sixth rounder for him if you were to scout him based on what he had done the year and a half before he was dealt.
And Ryan Poles didn't even know his own team well enough to know they fucking sucked and the pick he was dealing away was actually gold. The Steelers knew though.
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Lions and Vikings should have been in on trading for claypoop cause god forbid they allow the pack trade for a shitty player lol
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The chase Claypool trade should give no one confidence in Poles ability to rebuild this team. Absolutely dumb
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Moving goalposts. This has nothing to do with your original claim that you dont know why he did it. Maybe dont lie next time.
This is another stupid entry in the debate. The argument isnt that the Bears traded for him soley because of the Pack. The argument is they think he is a good player and had to pay the 2nd rounder because another team offered a 2nd rounder ie that was his market value. You can disagree with that market value but pretending it wasnt his market value is dumb.
This is also stupid because the Lions and Vikes WR cores were not necessarily as bad as the Bears or Pack so they didnt have as much of a need.
Like seriously. It is fine if you dont like the trade but being obnoxiously stupid about it doesnt actually convince people. Stick to arguments that actually indicate there is some level of intelligence to your argument.
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Vintage remy nonsense. Put this one in the museum.
I love it when you defend this garbage trade though. I like to go against the public grain a lot myself, but it takes an insane contrarian streak to look back on that waste of a deal and think "yeah nice smart move that was".
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It was worse than any move Ryan Pace ever made. A rebuilding team, one of the worst in the league, gives away their second pick because they had to stop their mediocre division rival from making the same blunder.
Our only hope is that he's learned from it. He has a chance to atone for it by moving down from first overall (and then moving down again). But it does make me worry that this guy is a complete idiot who is going to draft Will Anderson Jr.
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Yes. Let’s base everything on half a year. Makes sense. I will give him an offseason and season with his new team and QB before I cry about it.
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What is it about Stroud that had him discounted? Dude is a prototypical NFL passer with all the throws, near perfect mechanics and plenty of mobility. If they don't take the easy plays, they get bitched about but then when they do, they get discounted. WTF?
1st time I saw him throw a ball 2 years ago, you could see he had special.