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much more to it then that. lamar jackson is catching a stray bullet in a fight between the owners and the nflpa and fully guaranteed contracts, the agents also dont want to see lamar succeed because he doesnt have an agent.
Pretty much this. And the only consequence Jimmy Haslam suffers for upsetting the apple cart is being invited to fewer cocktail parties. Also not buying the argument this has anything to do with having to give up two firsts.

It's not like $32.41 mil is chump change but at almost $8 mil less than Daniel Jones will make this year it's still an insult.
 

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We are all waiting, as Bears fans, to see what he does this season. The problem is that if he turns out to be great he will demand an expensive contract, and if he doesn't he will be a wasted trade of a high draft pick.

It really works out to lose lose for the Bears, and that is why I hated the trade.

LOL.

“If he’s good, I’m gonna be mad!”

“If he’s bad, I’m gonna be mad!”

Most CCS post ever.
 

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Garapollo going to HOU would be very bad for the Bears.
 

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Pretty much this. And the only consequence Jimmy Haslam suffers for upsetting the apple cart is being invited to fewer cocktail parties. Also not buying the argument this has anything to do with having to give up two firsts.

It's not like $32.41 mil is chump change but at almost $8 mil less than Daniel Jones will make this year it's still an insult.

The Broncos essentially forked over the same for Russell Wilson just last offseason

They're definitely fucking with Lamar but he can't really do anything about it
 

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I have to agree with you. Why would Jimmy G put himself in a position for a one-year deal? He's not great, but he's better than most QBs in that situation. Why not just start Davis Mills if that is the case
I agree with you and will go one further: why would a coach put the rookie in this position with Jimmy G.? Sitting on a bench isn't in JImmy G.'s best interest. He is going to want to play as long as he can. Also, there's the optic that the coach and gm would not trust a QB they draft by hedging him with Jimmy G., thereby setting up a situation of a QB controversy should Jimmy G. not fail.

With Davis Mills, they already have a proven quantity. They can have the same effect with him. The only thing I can think of is that they are targeting AR and want him to sit for a year, so the Love in the FGB situation or everyone's favorite example in Mahomes. Either way, this makes no sense, which is perfectly in line with the Texans's SOP and the kind of kryptonite situation that Jimmy G should run away from.
 

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Maybe they know bears have plans for one trade down with Panthers/ Titans ?
I doubt they would make that huge investment in JG rather than give up a bit of draft capital and or take whoever isn't chosen at #1. The whole thing sounds a bit fishy to me but the Texans are a dumpster fire of an org.

It makes a trade up with HOU possible, as well as increasing the value of the 3rd pick.

Teams don't necessarily have to jump the Texans to get their preferred QB in that scenario.

I think that lowers the value of the Bears' pick. But obviously if a team is dead sold on a guy their best option is still the Bears.
 

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It makes a trade up with HOU possible, as well as increasing the value of the 3rd pick.

Teams don't necessarily have to jump the Texans to get their preferred QB in that scenario.

I think that lowers the value of the Bears' pick. But obviously if a team is dead sold on a guy their best option is still the Bears.
Carr and jg hold the keys to how valuable the bears pick is. We got lucky carr went to saints instead of Carolina. Hopefully jg goes to a team like commanders
 

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i just dont see JG choosing the Texans of all QB needy teams
 

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Counter argument is that the Bears are obviously a run blocking team, were #1 in yards last year and I don't think they will create a weakness there at the RT position. Pass blocking has to improve but I don't think the training wheels come off that fast that we are not run orientated team again next year, especially because we are good at it.

Best case IMO is next year is a transition year to more reliance on the passing game and we start to see an explosive offense open up.
I'm talking about 1 position out of 5. Nobody's talking about making them not a run oriented team. But you know you have 2 good run blockers coming back. One is the opposite tackle, the other is right next to him. And zone blocking, he just kind of has to get in the way instead of pushing a guy out of the way. Working on combos with Jenkins or a TE should naturally help him as well. Jags TE this year was Evan Engram who isn't a blocker at all. They will also have 2 other spots which they will upgrade to keep run blocking a strength, while potentially trying to improve pass pro as well.

I'm not sure what Jawaan Taylor ran at Jacksonville (he's probably not sure either as he had 4 OCs in 4 years there), but maybe he had trouble run blocking because they were trying to get him to block a man with power and that's just not his game? Honestly, haven't watched enough Jags football to know if it's a bad scheme fit or not.
 

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It is probably just noise owning to the fact the GM was in NE with JG and the coach had him in SF.
 

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It is probably just noise owning to the fact the GM was in NE with JG and the coach had him in SF.
Most of the speculation last week had him going to the raiders but then the Rodgers getting traded possibility heated up this week and a mac jones trade rumor also hit the other day
 

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Moreover, Lawrence had one of the quickest release times of all quarterbacks last year, potentially providing the behind-the-scenes crutch propping up that high pass-blocking grade last year.


The quote is from another article and is one thing to consider with him.
Taylor has consistently had high pass blocking grades throughout his career though. Before Lawrence had one of the quickest release times as a rookie, and before Lawrence even was in the league. The crutch is more of an argument against McGary, who had his best pass blocking season this year, on a team that threw less than everyone but the Bears and had even more RPOs and moving pockets without true pass sets.
 

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I'm talking about 1 position out of 5. Nobody's talking about making them not a run oriented team. But you know you have 2 good run blockers coming back. One is the opposite tackle, the other is right next to him. And zone blocking, he just kind of has to get in the way instead of pushing a guy out of the way. Working on combos with Jenkins or a TE should naturally help him as well. Jags TE this year was Evan Engram who isn't a blocker at all. They will also have 2 other spots which they will upgrade to keep run blocking a strength, while potentially trying to improve pass pro as well.

I'm not sure what Jawaan Taylor ran at Jacksonville (he's probably not sure either as he had 4 OCs in 4 years there), but maybe he had trouble run blocking because they were trying to get him to block a man with power and that's just not his game? Honestly, haven't watched enough Jags football to know if it's a bad scheme fit or not.

Taylor wasnt really good in zone or gap per PFF. The split between them was about 50-50 and he had a 48.1 grade in zone and 38.5 in gap.

McGary had a 91.1 grade in zone and 70.2 in gap. Falcons ran zone 71.5% of the time.
 

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i just dont see JG choosing the Texans of all QB needy teams
He'll choose whoever gives him the most money. NO is off the market. Jets seem to be Rodgers or bust. Colts and Carolina appear to be focused on draft prospects. That leaves Houston, Washington, Vegas, and Tampa as the QB needy teams.
 

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What are you even talking about?

I was mentioning the fact that the bears gave up basically a 1st round pick for Claypool.

Everyone saying "well they didn't know it was going to basically be a 1st round pick" was too busy chiming how great he was going to be for the Bears immediately.... Which he wasn't, they've been deferring to him being a this year addition, which wasn't any of their initial praise, so we watch and wait and then if he is great the Bears either have to pay him too much money or let him go. It was a chit tier move. Poles hasn't been bad, but this was a bad decision. I wish Claypool was a Packer right now.
I find it funny that you object to people saying they didn't know it would be a 1st round pick when it's actually still a 2nd, LOL. Somebody needs an adjustment. The way to look at this is the we didn't expect the pick to be about 10-12 slots higher. It's also too early to judge that trade. Middle of next year will give us a better perspective.
 
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