**OFFICAIL** Bears 2024 Regular Season News & Schleisse - FTO Preferred - No ALTS! Derailing Is Discouraged!

[bamainatlanta]

He was. He's now not going to. Now, he'll take Carter, because Seattle doesn't give a crap.

Glad you came to your senses.

 

[bamainatlanta]

That's insane reasoning.

But i'll just agree to disagree.

I don’t think that they will be scared away from a prospect just because of what DeSchlong Watson did—unless they hear rumors that the prospect is a creep himself(doubtful).

 

[remydat]

I'd take mcglinchey or Taylor over mcgary. Mcgary had one good year in a contract year when his team schemed to help him out with his deficiencies and then they weren't interested in bringing him back even though they had huge cap space.

Sure but none of that changes the fact he did have a good year and has improved every year. They also didnt scheme to help him out on his 91 run grade.

I would rather pay for elite ability paired with an adequate one vs paying for a good ability paired with an atrocious one.

Having said that the best approach may simply be to sign more of a stop gap until you can find someone that is actually good at pass and run blocking. A guy like Pocic for example had a 79 run block and 72 pass block grade at center.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Jimmy G back to new England isn't unheard of.

I have heard this. Mac to Las Vegas for a bag of potato chips and a Shasta and JG to NE.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Sure but none of that changes the fact he did have a good year and has improved every year. They also didnt scheme to help him out on his 91 run grade.

I would rather pay for elite ability paired with an adequate one vs paying for a good ability paired with an atrocious one.

Having said that the best approach may simply be to sign more of a stop gap until you can find someone that is actually good at pass and run blocking.

I'm guessing mcgary isn't an adequate pass blocker otherwise I'm sure ATL would have him back.

This could be preemptive, maybe ATL signs him before FA starts, but I doubt it at this point. I'm not interested in a guy whose likely another below average pass blocker at RT.

 

[dabears70]

I'm talking about 1 position out of 5. Nobody's talking about making them not a run oriented team. But you know you have 2 good run blockers coming back. One is the opposite tackle, the other is right next to him. And zone blocking, he just kind of has to get in the way instead of pushing a guy out of the way. Working on combos with Jenkins or a TE should naturally help him as well. Jags TE this year was Evan Engram who isn't a blocker at all. They will also have 2 other spots which they will upgrade to keep run blocking a strength, while potentially trying to improve pass pro as well.

I'm not sure what Jawaan Taylor ran at Jacksonville (he's probably not sure either as he had 4 OCs in 4 years there), but maybe he had trouble run blocking because they were trying to get him to block a man with power and that's just not his game? Honestly, haven't watched enough Jags football to know if it's a bad scheme fit or not.

I have no issue with either tackle being better at pass blocking than run blocking and if i had a choice and had to choose i would choose for my tackles to be better at pass blocking than run blocking cause it's easier to have a TE or someone helping chip block.

 

[remydat]

I'm guessing mcgary isn't an adequate pass blocker otherwise I'm sure ATL would have him back.

This could be preemptive, maybe ATL signs him before FA starts, but I doubt it at this point. I'm not interested in a guy whose likely another below average pass blocker at RT.

At 17-20m a year Taylor is going to disappoint IMO. If you are that concerned about pass blocking, go get a Donovan Smith type who had a 71 pass block grade vs a 76 for Taylor and has a better track record (80 grade last year). He is going to come much cheaper.

By your own logic Taylor isnt some stud RT as if he were the Jags would have prioritised him over Evan Engram. He is a decent player that will be grossly overpaid. There will be cheaper guys on the market with similar pass blocking skills.

I am not married to McGary but he at least has an elite skill that I cant really find for cheaper and because that skill is run blocking not pass blocking he will likely be cheaper than Taylor. Having said that I have no problem signing someone else. I just dont think it should be Taylor at 17-20m

 

[dabears70]

Ranking 5 best free agent defensive lineman for Chicago Bears

The Chicago Bears have a lot of cap space, but so many holes. They are going to need to spend big to fix as much as they can this offseason. A big area of need

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[Bears_Almighty]

He had a 70.5 pass block grade from PFF so not really below average.

Gotcha. I guess statistically he is above average, but watching the tape I have my concerns. Hopefully his technique gets better and he improves.
What is considered an average PB grade? I see on PFF he ranked (overall grade) below Reiff and Leno, so just wondering. I don't have a PFF subscription so I don't see all the grades.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

At 17-20m a year Taylor is going to disappoint IMO. If you are that concerned about pass blocking, go get a Donovan Smith type who had a 71 pass block grade vs a 76 for Taylor and has a better track record (80 grade last year). He is going to come much cheaper.

By your own logic Taylor isnt some stud RT as if he were the Jags would have prioritised him over Evan Engram. He is a decent player that will be grossly overpaid. There will be cheaper guys on the market with similar pass blocking skills.

I am not married to McGary but he at least has an elite skill that I cant really find for cheaper and because that skill is run blocking not pass blocking he will likely be cheaper than Taylor. Having said that I have no problem signing someone else. I just dont think it should be Taylor at 17-20m

Mcglinchey is probably the middle ground in that he's solid at both. All of them are uninspiring, but also significant upgrades for the bears.

 

[rawdawg]

I think it depends on cost. Dont like the idea of signing a guy to 17-20m contract who is a good not great pass blocker and atrociois run blocker. Would prefer to sign someone at least good at both. If he ends up more in the 15m range then fine.

I prefer McGary as he has improved every year just about and is at least elite in one trait and adequate in the other. I also expect him to be cheaper. If they end up with Taylor though I would hate the move but generally speaking this is where teams run into trouble. Significantly overpaying for good but not great players.



A bit big for the scheme but would rather sign a guy like him for much cheaper than shell out 17-20m for a good not great tackle. We dont have to overpay a ton just because we have money. Sign cheaper upgrades until you have a shot at a true impact player either in FA, trade or by developing one.

Yeah, for sure. But that's what free agency is. You overpay good players, great players don't hit the market. I honestly don't think they'll sign any of the big named OTs, the money and long term commitment will scare them away. I think they'll go more for a guy like Dillard from the Eagles, who also has some guard flexibility. And I think they'll draft a tackle early.

 

[remydat]

Mcglinchey is probably the middle ground in that he's solid at both. All of them are uninspiring, but also significant upgrades for the bears.

Here are tackles with 70 or higher grades pass blocking with better meaning they graded out higher than Taylor. Wynn (last year), Beachum (better), Eluemenor (better), Flemming, Fant (last year). Think all of these guys will be much cheaper than Taylor and have the potential to provide similar pass blocking.

Yeah, for sure. But that's what free agency is. You overpay good players, great players don't hit the market. I honestly don't think they'll sign any of the big named OTs, the money and long term commitment will scare them away. I think they'll go more for a guy like Dillard from the Eagles, who also has some guard flexibility. And I think they'll draft a tackle early.

My point is we dont have to. We can wait until we find a guy that is good in both rather than spend a boatload of money because we are overly focused on one attribute and Taylor is young.

 

[Bears_Almighty]

Yeah, I agree with that. And I'd be all for competition if the Bears didn't need 2 DEs, 2 DTs, 2 LBs, a CB, RT, LG, C, WR, RB, and TE along with having a RG who has spent over half his career injured so far. If the Bears had adequate level play everywhere else, then sure I'd be all about making Jones earn it. But he's in the position where he's almost the least of our worries....for now.

I understand those points and mostly agree. Hopefully Jones cleans up his technique and continues to get better.

 

[I Just Want To Read]

I want to draft a tackle in the 2nd round.

Braxton + 2nd round tackle could be a fantastic pairing value wise.

 

[I Just Want To Read]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1633137230549057537

I admittedly have very little knowledge on this guy, but I'm not crazy about splashing cash for a non-passrushing lineback.

We should invest in the premium NFL positions: WR and Pass-Rusher perhaps the top two right now (other than QB)?

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

I admittedly have very little knowledge on this guy, but I'm not crazy about splashing cash for a non-passrushing lineback.

We should invest in the premium NFL positions: WR and Pass-Rusher perhaps the top two right now (other than QB)?

The Bears have the money to invest in a player like Okereke. They need a coverage linebacker just as desperately as a Wr, pass rusher, etc. They have a lot of holes to fill.

 

[Les Grossman]

I'm already tired of Colts retreads. That Colts D wasn't even that good.

 

[Hawkeye OG]

Bears social media throwing shade at CCS

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1633492117044510723

 

[zabavka]

I'm already tired of Colts retreads. That Colts D wasn't even that good.

And yet we now have a head coach and defensive coordinator from that very same team.

 

[I Just Want To Read]

The Bears have the money to invest in a player like Okereke. They need a coverage linebacker just as desperately as a Wr, pass rusher, etc. They have a lot of holes to fill.

Yes, but I think in the NFL there are a lot of positions where you really should fill holes with draft picks and or cheap signings.

I could see coverage linebacker growing in importance as a position, but on the other hand teams seem to just be plugging in safeties at that spot and doing alright.

I'd prefer to pay for a surplus of WR and pass-rushing talent.