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Yeah I don’t know why some fans expected Claypool to ball out last year. Reasonable fans should have known it was an investment for the 2023 season and beyond. At that time no one beside @Dejo ever expected Moore to be a Bear ?. With that said, still wasn’t the best investment.

He had 29 targets. I dont know how much production you want out of 29 targets
 

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Your post had nothing to do with common sense. You were referencing a QB throwing close to 4,000 yards and then proceeded to say a Bears QB has never done that before. Are you sure you know what common sense is?
Anyone that's been a bears fan for even just 10 years knows one of the big things we always talk about on here is that no bears QB has ever thrown for 4,000 yds, so i would think you would understand what i was "trying" to say but since you didn't then i would think you didn't use common sense. Either way i already said you got me so you win.
 

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You seem confused. We know the cost of the trade. What we dont know is the return. If he has another season like last season then it was a terrible trade. If he balls out and Bears make the playoffs then it was worth it.

I really dont care about his production in a year we got first pick and quite frankly it is better that he did suck rather than ball out and help us win an extra game or two. All that really matters is what he does this season as anyone with a brain knows this is the year that counts given where we are in the rebuild.
Remy: "We didn't get him for his 2022 production, we got him for 2023".
Everyone else: " but you could have used the 32nd overall pick and drafted a WR to address 2023 production, and had that player on a rookie contract for 4 years"
Remy: "Derp" But he might ball out in 2023!!
Everyone else: Great, and then you will need to pay him in 2024
Remy: Derp " But it is actually a good thing he sucked ass last year, that helped us get the #1 pick"
Everyone else: " so not doing anything would have resulted in more wins, as opposed to trading the #32 pick for Claypool"?
Remy: Derp
 

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'Common sense' to him is what he calls his niece molesting activities.
Normal common sense:
-Wearing oven mitts to take a pan out of the oven.
-Look both ways before crossing the road.

@dabears70 common sense
- Big Ben threw close to 4,000 yards but no Bears QB has before. (Then proceeds to argue he meant 4,000+ yards).

Anyone see a difference here?
 

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Anyone that's been a bears fan for even just 10 years knows one of the big things we always talk about on here is that no bears QB has ever thrown for 4,000 yds, so i would think you would understand what i was "trying" to say but since you didn't then i would think you didn't use common sense. Either way i already said you got me so you win.
We all know no Bears QB has thrown for 4,000+yards, but several have come close. And your post referenced close to 4,000 yards. Again, choose your words properly.
 

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He had 29 targets. I dont know how much production you want out of 29 targets
Quite low quality targets too in this passing offense which had so many problems with it.

Poles didn't make the trade for last year, he made it for this upcoming year. We'll see what happens but Claypool's physical talent fits well alongside D. Moo and D. Moo.
 

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Anyone that's been a bears fan for even just 10 years knows one of the big things we always talk about on here is that no bears QB has ever thrown for 4,000 yds, so i would think you would understand what i was "trying" to say but since you didn't then i would think you didn't use common sense. Either way i already said you got me so you win.

But why does that matter when Big Ben who was the topic didnt throw for 4k yards either. What relevance does it have to your argument about Kmet?

The answer is none.
 

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Quite low quality targets too in this passing offense which had so many problems with it.

Poles didn't make the trade for last year, he made it for this upcoming year. We'll see what happens but Claypool's physical talent fits well alongside D. Moo and D. Moo.

The one thing I dont like with Claypool is he is a finesse receiver in a physical receivers body. He plays smaller than he is. But with both D. Moos drawing attention, it should free him up some
 

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Remy: "We didn't get him for his 2022 production, we got him for 2023".
Everyone else: " but you could have used the 32nd overall pick and drafted a WR to address 2023 production, and had that player on a rookie contract for 4 years"
Remy: "Derp" But he might ball out in 2023!!
Everyone else: Great, and then you will need to pay him in 2024
Remy: Derp " But it is actually a good thing he sucked ass last year, that helped us get the #1 pick"
Everyone else: " so not doing anything would have resulted in more wins, as opposed to trading the #32 pick for Claypool"?
Remy: Derp

Yes and that WR drafted may be outproduced by Claypool or be a bust. The only way to know for sure is not by cunting about it but seeing how the 2023 season plays out which is exactly my point.

Great we are due to still have a fuck ton of cap space in 2024 so I see no issue paying guys who produce.

No jackass the point is if Claypool had played more and played well we may have lost out on the 1st pick so his 2022 production is pretty irrelevant to the overall equation.

What is stupid about the whole argument is declaring it a failure before the 2023 season is played out based on hypothetical production that fits your bias when we can just see what actually happens.
 
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Quite low quality targets too in this passing offense which had so many problems with it.

Poles didn't make the trade for last year, he made it for this upcoming year. We'll see what happens but Claypool's physical talent fits well alongside D. Moo and D. Moo.
This offense is still a work in progress, but honestly, where is the bar here?

40 catches seems like such an easy target to hit, but I anticipate that next year's passing offense will still aim to take the back seat to a highly efficient and effective rushing offense. So this team isnt aiming to send the kind of volume his way that will stop anyone from complaining about the draft pick it cost to obtain him. If he can take 40 catches and impress the staff with a high YPC, I would say that he is a fit.
 

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Yes and that WR drafted may be outproduced by Claypool or be a bust. The only way to know for sure is not by cunting about it but seeing how the 2023 season plays out which is exactly my point.

Great we are due to still have a fuck ton of cap space in 2024 so I see no issue paying guys who produce.

No jackass the point is if Claypool had played more and played well we may have lost out on the 1st pick so his 2022 production is pretty irrelevant to the overall equation.

What is stupid about the whole argument is declaring it a failure before the 2023 season is played out based on hypothetical production that fits your bias when we can just see what actually happens.
As if your counter argument is any less hypothetical?
Give it a rest. the only known here is that he sucked ass in 2022. Just another Remy vortex not unlike the O-line vortex of the 2022 preseason.
A 32nd overall pick would have been a much less costly option with higher upside for a rebuilding team.
The trade doesn't speak of some kind of brilliance by Poles, is reeks of desperation during a 2022 season.

Let me ask you a simple question. Would anyone trade a high 2nd round pick for Claypool right now?

No?

Then the trade is a complete failure.

The end.
 

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As if your counter argument is any less hypothetical?
Give it a rest. the only known here is that he sucked ass in 2022. Just another Remy vortex not unlike the O-line vortex of the 2022 preseason.
A 32nd overall pick would have been a much less costly option with higher upside for a rebuilding team.
The trade doesn't speak of some kind of brilliance by Poles, is reeks of desperation during a 2022 season.

Let me ask you a simple question. Would anyone trade a high 2nd round pick for Claypool right now?

No?

Then the trade is a complete failure.

The end.
Look ncockneto thinks his opinion matters. Newsflash, no one fucking cares what you think.

You're fucking stupid.

The end.
 

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As if your counter argument is any less hypothetical?
Give it a rest. the only known here is that he sucked ass in 2022. Just another Remy vortex not unlike the O-line vortex of the 2022 preseason.
A 32nd overall pick would have been a much less costly option with higher upside for a rebuilding team.
The trade doesn't speak of some kind of brilliance by Poles, is reeks of desperation during a 2022 season.

Let me ask you a simple question. Would anyone trade a high 2nd round pick for Claypool right now?

No?

Then the trade is a complete failure.

The end.

No stupid. My argument is not a hypothetical as I am literally saying let's see what his ACTUAL production is this year rather than cunt about hypothetical production.

Fields needs guys he can trust now as we need to make a call after this year on him most likely so a rookie WR learning how the NFL works who may or may not be ready isnt as valuable as a 25 year old WR with elite physical traits going into his 4th year.

Your simple question is stupid. The correct question is whether anyone would offer a 2nd for Claypool after this year and the answer is we dont know yet as it depends on how well he performs. Again we did not trade for just half a year in 2022. We traded for 1.5 years and any evaluation of the trade needs to include ACTUAL production this year as we would not have paid a 2nd for just half a year. We paid a 2nd for 1.5 years and the ability to control his rights beyond that if we so desire.
 

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