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You can't use the "95% of all of his games" argument when he has missed all of those games in the last 3 years. Guys don't get healthier as they get older. The wear and tear take a little bit away every year, especially the bigger players. Also, he only has an 8.3 dead if you cut him pre June 1. You can designate him after June 1, which takes that dead cap to 4.2M. And it's not an issue that you can't use that til June because they have 120M other dollars to play with.
Whitehair IS average. A ranking isn't average or a mean. If I have the 24th best grade on a test in a class of 64, I could still have an F (not saying Whitehair is an F player, just saying he's average, and his PFF grade is the grade of an average player). Whitehair IS going to be severely overpaid at a 14.1M cap hit. And I didn't say anything about having young players everywhere. But the Bears are a team that should be building for the future. What's the point of keeping Cody Whitehair when you have the money and ability to upgrade him? If he's not cut after 2022, he's gone after 2023 anyway.
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I am in ATL for the game, there are Bears fans all over and I'm in Midtown this morning, not even near the stadium.
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I think we need to agree on some basics in this conversation.
1. The Bears OL is bad. They need to upgrade as much of it as possible.
2. Jenkins is the best OL. They should keep him and start him.
3. Jones is this regime's pet. He was handed the job before camp and hasn't had to share reps or look over his shoulder for a backup to take his job. He's likely going to start.
That leaves 3 positions to upgrade. C, LG, RT. Nobody is arguing that RT doesn't need a really good player there. So, it comes down to LG and C.
I know EVERYONE wants to upgrade Center. But EVERYONE is basing that desire on Sam Mustipher playing all but 10 snaps there the last 2 years. And on how Lucas Patrick looked at LG. The Bears, who brought Patrick in to play C, aren't going to say, "well, he didn't play that well at LG, so I don't think he will play well at C". They moved him to C after he was playing poorly at LG.
So essentially, do you upgrade both C and LG? Or do you upgrade one or the other? I think you clearly upgrade 1 of them, then you set up the other to be upgraded in the long-term. You also have to compare the actual ability to upgrade LG vs. C. If you seek to upgrade C, you have 31 options to upgrade in free agency. Not all 31 of those options will be available. If you seek to upgrade LG, you have 64 starting guards in the league. You also have 64 starting tackles, who could be moved to guard (Elgton Jenkins for example is listed as a FA OT). There's many more available options to upgrade the guard position. Draft is the same way. You draft a C, 9x out of 10, it's going to be a guy who played C in college. You can draft a guy for LG who played LT in college as the best lineman on his team, but maybe has short arms or a weak kickstep.
So, now you have to compare Whitehair and Patrick as players. Whitehair is probably the better player. At LG, Whitehair has been better. But he's shown he can't play C (argue if you want, but the fact is 2 different regimes have not move him back there despite it being the worst C position in the league for 2 years). So, Patrick gets the edge in versatility. He gets the regime's preference as he was the 1st player they added to this roster. And maybe most importantly, he has the MUCH lower salary.
I know it's probably not best to assume Patrick is set in stone, but it's pretty clear to see a path that keeps him on this team moreso than Whitehair, if the goal is to upgrade at least 2 starters on the OL.
Guys like Leatherwood and Ja'Tyre Carter are NON factors. You can't watch a full year of your offense not be able to execute a regular drop back pass with consistency and throw in a 6th round pick from an FCS school or a failed 1st round pick in there and think you upgraded the OL. They are lottery tickets. If they make the team, great. If they are good enough to actually start some games, even better. But they should be treated as if they are going to be camp/depth bodies until they prove otherwise.
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5. CHI - RB Darrynton Evans elevated
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Chicago Bears RB Darrynton Evans was elevated from the practice squad to the active roster on Saturday, Nov. 19.
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With RB Khalil Herbert out of action, the Bears needed to make a move at the running back position. Evans may not do much because the Bears still have RB David Montgomery as their starter and primary back. Behind Montgomery, RB Trestan Ebner will work as the no.2 back and could get a few touches on Sunday.
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Chicago Bears RB Darrynton Evans was elevated from the practice squad to the active roster on Saturday, Nov. 19.
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With RB Khalil Herbert out of action, the Bears needed to make a move at the running back position. Evans may not do much because the Bears still have RB David Montgomery as their starter and primary back. Behind Montgomery, RB Trestan Ebner will work as the no.2 back and could get a few touches on Sunday.
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All of those quickly hired OCs came from winning situations with offensive gurus as HCs. That's not the case for Getsy in Chicago. Someone may take a chance on him, but it's not the same situation.
The other part of the equation is whether he has the package put together to sell ownership on his ability to assemble a winning staff of coaches. Plenty of guys look like rising stars but can't seal the deal once they get interviews.
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Anybody seen if VJJ is active?
Was wondering the same thing. I think Evans worked a little as KR in Tennessee also. Honestly I think Evans outperformed Ebner in the PS.
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I live in ATL also. Bears fans everywhere. But that’s not unusual. ATL has the worst fan base in the country. A lot of transplants here, so not a dedicated fan base.
If their teams are winning, the fair weather fans come out. But normally, there are more of the visiting team’s fans in the stands than the home team’s.
If their teams are winning, the fair weather fans come out. But normally, there are more of the visiting team’s fans in the stands than the home team’s.
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Okay. This is the updated Roster Card for today's game. It has both N'Keal Harry and VJJ on it. On another note, I forgot a dude I was high on, Troy Andersen, was drafted by the Falcons.
Let's see if we see VJJ out of the backfield or Harry get some looks as a Move TE/Big Slot.
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Probably a lot of Fields jerseys being worn that still have the creases in the arms?
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Plus, Fields went to HS in Kennesaw, just north of ATL.
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