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remydat

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You have no actual basis to say Allen would have developed with any decent OC. It’s all speculative bull shit to fit your narrative. I actually live in a universe where Daboll has been there since he was drafted in 2018 and improved every season under his coaching. That’s also the same universe where Byron has never done that and decided a QB who throws 30 INTs should lead the league in attempts.

And by this very logic Brady improved under Leftwich dum dum. He went from 24 TDs to 40 and 43 TDs. How is a 66% increase in TDs not improvement?

They were never Daboll’s teams FYI.

Dont be silly. He was the OC.
 

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Um no. You dont have to only hire giys you know. That is the point. Plenty of coaches are hired without being buddies with the HC.
Your not answering. Who are these guys, and were is he finding them?
 

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What is he supposed to say? It’s a fucking hype video for social media Jesus Christ.

The point is people clearly said he was washed up so the poster who said no one said that is lying.
 

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And by this very logic Brady improved under Leftwich dum dum. He went from 24 TDs to 40 and 43 TDs. How is a 66% increase in TDs not improvement?



Dont be silly. He was the OC.
Where did I say it wasn’t an improvement Jesus Christ? I said Byron didn’t develop Brady, or are you going to say he did? The argument could be made it’s as simple as Brady having a better set of targets so his numbers went up. Fairly common knowledge he wanted better weapons in his last few seasons in NE.

And being an OC means the team literally ain’t his dummy.
 

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The point is people clearly said he was washed up so the poster who said no one said that is lying.
Well you said Brady disagrees with us, so at best you’re exaggerating and at worst you’re delusional.
 

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Your not answering. Who are these guys, and were is he finding them?

How did Nagy find Lazoe or Helfrich or Castillo or Hiestand?

It is an NFL job. You can easily find people as thr NFL is a small world. Do you honestly think coaches only ever hire guys they know? The same way you scout players, you can scout coaches.
 

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Stop what? Bad throws and bad reads? This isnt madden dum dum.

Brady looked done hence why Kraft and BB dumped him. Brady struggled early and then Leftwich tweaked the O for him.
Tweaked? They basically handed the keys to Brady and let him run what he wanted. Scrapped their planned offense.
 

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Where did I say it wasn’t an improvement Jesus Christ? I said Byron didn’t develop Brady, or are you going to say he did? The argument could be made it’s as simple as Brady having a better set of targets so his numbers went up. Fairly common knowledge he wanted better weapons in his last few seasons in NE.

And being an OC means the team literally ain’t his dummy.

Ok the argument can be Allen got a better set of targets as he didnt take off until Diggs got there. So was it Daboll or did his weapons get better?
 

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Ok the argument can be Allen got a better set of targets as he didnt take off until Diggs got there. So was it Daboll or did his weapons get better?
Both? Are you going to stoop even lower and tell me Byron is better than Bill Belichek now?
 

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Tweaked? They basically handed the keys to Brady and let him run what he wanted. Scrapped their planned offense.

No they didnt. Brady went from middle of pack throwing deep to leading the league. They tweaked things but it is clearly a vertical offense when compared to what he typically ran in NE.
 

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Well you said Brady disagrees with us, so at best you’re exaggerating and at worst you’re delusional.

No you are not following along. Brady disagrees with you guys claiming no one said he was washed up as he did a whole video of people calling him washed up.

Both? Are you going to stoop even lower and tell me Byron is better than Bill Belichek now?

Yes and it was both when it comes to Leftwich and Brady.

Bellichek isnt the OC. McDaniels is. Is Leftwich better than McDaniels as an OC? Yeah that is entirely possible.
 

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How did Nagy find Lazoe or Helfrich or Castillo or Hiestand?

It is an NFL job. You can easily find people as thr NFL is a small world. Do you honestly think coaches only ever hire guys they know? The same way you scout players, you can scout coaches.
But you're literally proving my point. Those were bad hires and it's a worry that could be a problem for Leftwich because neither has a good network.
 

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But you're literally proving my point. Those were bad hires and it's a worry that could be a problem for Leftwich because neither has a good network.

Bob Babbich was a bad hire and he was hired because he and Lovie were tight.

Lovie didnt know Ron Rivera but that was his best DC.

So you can have good or bad hires with nepotism or based on merit. I prefer the latter.
 

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Allen didn't take off until he got Diggs, but who cares that Brady came to a team stacked with receiving talent from a team where two guys had over 400 yards receiving and they were a RB and slot receiver.
 

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Allen didn't take off until he got Diggs, but who cares that Brady came to a team stacked with receiving talent from a team where two guys had over 400 yards receiving and they were a RB and slot receiver.

Well because they struggled early. People were shitting on Brady around the time of the Bears loss. That team did not take off until 2nd half of the year after they made adjustments.

Bills WRs sucked until they got Beasly and then Diggs the year after. Before that they top targets had like 600 ie Clay in 2017 before Allen and Zay Jones in 2018. So his improvement clearly coincided with getting miuch better weapons.
 

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I don’t care what they averaged per rush. You literally don’t have to have success running the ball to have a successful play action pass game. Your job is to adapt as a coach, we just saw Nagy fail miserably at that. Clearly the picks hurt the team a lot given how impressive that defense has been the last few years and considering they didn’t win shit with Winston being a turnover machine.

What the Patriots did is irrelevant, we are not discussing whether or not to hire a member of the Patriots organization.

This is a coach and GM speculation thread. Can you please enter a private chat? The two of you are getting awfully hot and heavy in here...
 

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Well because they struggled early. People were shitting on Brady around the time of the Bears loss. That team did not take off until 2nd half of the year after they made adjustments.

Bills WRs sucked until they got Beasly and then Diggs the year after. Before that they top targets had like 600 ie Clay in 2017 before Allen and Zay Jones in 2018. So his improvement clearly coincided with getting miuch better weapons.

Please take your quarrels to another platform. Slide into one another's DMs.
 

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