***OFFICAL*** Bears GM/Coaching Search News Thread

[Discus fish salesman]

Lol, the Bills run the ball only 30% of the time with RBs. They pass 59% of the time and they run with Allen 11% of the time. Daboll isn't any less allergic to running.

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Can't you guys start your own thread? I'm pretty done with the Leftwich discussion in this thread. Nobody knows whether he'll be a good coach until he does it

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Where did you see or hear this? Thanks

I dont think the Bears even know what they'll do at HC yet, so anyone hinting at who is the leader seems like nonsense to me.

 

[remydat]

Still thinking stats mean everything. He's now with a HC/OC that throws the ball a ton more than they ever did in NE and has the best receiving unit he's ever had and doesn't have a HC that runs the show. He's still the same best QB to ever play the game now as he was in NE. He's not better.

Um no. Moss is a better version of Mike Evans and Welker was a better slot WR than Godwin. There was also the year he had Welker, Gronk. Hernandez and Branch. This Bucs group isn't as good mainly because Brown has been in and out of the lineup so not a consistent presence.

 

[remydat]

Can't you guys start your own thread? I'm pretty done with the Leftwich discussion in this thread. Nobody knows whether he'll be a good coach until he does it

I have said this from the start.

This just explains why he wasnt all that successful. No one is looking at his time with those teams and saying he is our guy. He is being propped up entirely by his time with Allen.

It may be that he is a great coach. I just prefer guys with a better track record of success.

You arent following. I repeat.

As a fan you can never know for sure how much of a QB's development is coaching and how much is the QB which is why I would prefer to have seen some success with someone else.

You cant be sure that Daboll really developed Allen or whether Allen would have developed with any decent OC. Which again is why it would have been good to see him have success outside Allen.

I would prefer someone that has had success with multiple QBs. That is my preference. You are free to prefer Daboll. To each his own.

I have told them they are free to prefer who they want. They just keep coming at me trying to prove their point. I mean this convo could have ended 8 pages ago after I posted the above. They are just butt hurt I don't like Daboll despite saying he could be a great coach and that they are entitled to their opinions.

Leftwich, Hackett for example. Also coaches like Frazier and Bowles have had success with multiple teams albeit on D.

I didn't even mention Leftwich as my top candidate. I simply just said I prefer guys that have had some success with multiple QBs or multiple defenses. WCBF is just really agitated because I told him he is free to like Daboll but I prefer people whose succcess isn't tied into a single QB.

 

[Dejo]

Where did you see or hear this? Thanks

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1482985330500419586

CHICAGO BEARS. Could they fall in love with Brian Flores? Someone likely will. I still like the logic of handing the coaching gig to Jim Caldwell, seeing that the chief adviser to the search is Hall of Fame GM Bill Polian, who has always thought Caldwell didn’t get enough time (three seasons) in his first go-round as head coach in Indianapolis. Caldwell is the steady hand that Tony Dungy is beyond convinced is going to give a young team, and a young quarterback, a great chance. Tough to doubt that. Caldwell was six games over .500 as a head man in Detroit.

 

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1483113044465098752

 

[remydat]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1482985330500419586

CHICAGO BEARS. Could they fall in love with Brian Flores? Someone likely will. I still like the logic of handing the coaching gig to Jim Caldwell, seeing that the chief adviser to the search is Hall of Fame GM Bill Polian, who has always thought Caldwell didn’t get enough time (three seasons) in his first go-round as head coach in Indianapolis. Caldwell is the steady hand that Tony Dungy is beyond convinced is going to give a young team, and a young quarterback, a great chance. Tough to doubt that. Caldwell was six games over .500 as a head man in Detroit.

Yes another guy that has had success at multiple stops.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

Lol, the Bills run the ball only 30% of the time with RBs. They pass 59% of the time and they run with Allen 11% of the time. Daboll isn't any less allergic to running.

At least his passing game isn’t almost setting records for turnovers. If it works it works!

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Yes another guy that has had success at multiple stops.

I too, am intrigued by Jim Caldwell.

 

[JesusHalasChrist]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1483126197743763460

 

[Bears4Ever_34]

I too, am intrigued by Jim Caldwell.

He's 66 damn years old. Only two head coaches (non-interim) in NFL history have coached a game past the age of 70 (Halas, Levy).

Historically speaking, Caldwell likely only has a couple years left in him before he's done. The Bears have a young quarterback and are rebuilding. Why bother with someone who can't be here for the long haul? I don't see the logic or the upside to Jim Caldwell.

 

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1483134899523571714

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

He's 66 damn years old. Only two head coaches (non-interim) in NFL history have coached a game past the age of 70 (Halas, Levy).

Historically speaking, Caldwell likely only has a couple years left in him before he's done. The Bears have a young quarterback and are rebuilding. Why bother with someone who can't be here for the long haul? I don't see the logic or the upside to Jim Caldwell.

I said I was intrigued, not advocating.

That said, there's no questioning how successful he's been. You make a very good point about him not being around for the long haul, but that doesn't mean that a well respected coach like Caldwell, coupled with a good GM, couldn't mean a good transition plan.

 

[WookieOnRitalin]

I too, am intrigued by Jim Caldwell.

It's one thing to be intrigued. It's another to not want a guy who just turned 67 years old. In three years the man will be 70.

If he were to win the Super Bowl he would be the oldest Super Bowl winner ever passing Bruce Arians last year (this is assuming he wins it next year as well I believe or pretty close).

This team is not just a couple pieces a way from contention. This is likely a 3-5 year process.

Like the man. Like the body of work. I just think his age is a factor in all of this discussion.

 

[stelz]

This is NOT a knock on BL, he's a fine coaching talent, and although he's not my first choice, I would have no problem with him as Bears HC.

That being said, It's an absurd notion that Tom Brady was developed by Byron Leftwitch. He was fully formed when he arrived at Tampa Bay, already an unquestioned first ballot Hall of Fame inductee. The Bucs were looking like a joke with Brady until the QB asserted himself. The pieces of offense, that were combined with BL's--and put Tampa Bay over the top--were from Brady and his years at NE.

Tom Brady developed Byron Leftwitch, whose offense now features plays and concepts he learned from arguably the greatest QB that's ever played the game. Tom Brady, sure, probably learned a thing or two from BL.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

It's one thing to be intrigued. It's another to not want a guy who just turned 67 years old. In three years the man will be 70.

If he were to win the Super Bowl he would be the oldest Super Bowl winner ever passing Bruce Arians last year (this is assuming he wins it next year as well I believe or pretty close).

This team is not just a couple pieces a way from contention. This is likely a 3-5 year process.

Like the man. Like the body of work. I just think his age is a factor in all of this discussion.

Again, being intrigued is not the same as wanting him to get the job.

 

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1483136483007647748

 

[Bears4Ever_34]

It's one thing to be intrigued. It's another to not want a guy who just turned 67 years old. In three years the man will be 70.

If he were to win the Super Bowl he would be the oldest Super Bowl winner ever passing Bruce Arians last year (this is assuming he wins it next year as well I believe or pretty close).

This team is not just a couple pieces a way from contention. This is likely a 3-5 year process.

Like the man. Like the body of work. I just think his age is a factor in all of this discussion.

Yep. He's a good coach, but his timeline doesn't fit at all with the direction of the Bears right now.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

I too, am intrigued by Jim Caldwell.

If they're going the "safe" route, I would prefer him over Frazier

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

It's one thing to be intrigued. It's another to not want a guy who just turned 67 years old. In three years the man will be 70.

If he were to win the Super Bowl he would be the oldest Super Bowl winner ever passing Bruce Arians last year (this is assuming he wins it next year as well I believe or pretty close).

This team is not just a couple pieces a way from contention. This is likely a 3-5 year process.

Like the man. Like the body of work. I just think his age is a factor in all of this discussion.

It's not so much the age as it is the age PLUS recent health issues that forced him out of his last job.

The qualifications are impeccable. Anyone who can win in Detroit is a damn fine coach.

My questions would what's his transition plan? I'd want to know who's on the staff that can be groomed to replace him whenever he retires. Who's of the staff that can take over in a moment's notice if his health goes south again?

But if he can right the ship so to speak and has a good staff with him then it's a possibility. Not my number one choice but I wouldn't hate it either.