Official Epstein Thread (Epstein baseball side prez/Hoyer is GM)

[daddies3angels]

Couple reporters reporting Deal be done today and conference be tomorrow to announce Theo has President

 

[85Bears4life]

Source -- Chicago Cubs, Boston Red Sox finalizing deal for Theo Epstein - ESPN Chicago

The Chicago Cubs and Boston Red Sox are finalizing a deal that would make Theo Epstein the Cubs' president of baseball operations at some point Thursday, according to a Major League Baseball source.

A source with knowledge of the negotiations said: "The two sides are on the 5-yard line."

MLB already has told the Cubs that they can have a news conference on Friday, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

The Red Sox initially asked for Cubs starting pitcher Matt Garza, and at one point proposed the Cubs take pitcher John Lackey's contract as part of the compensation, according to a major league source. Lackey has three seasons remaining on a five-year, $82.5 million contract. He was 12-12 with a 6.41 ERA in 28 starts for the Red Sox in 2011.

But the expected agreement will include Cubs minor leaguers, although not top prospects Brett Jackson, Trey McNutt and Matt Szczur, the source said. Cash will not be part of the compensation.

Two other sources confirmed ESPNChicago.com's report that San Diego Padres general manager Jed Hoyer will be named Cubs GM a few days after Epstein's news conference. But Padres owner Jeff Moorad emailed ESPNBoston.com's Gordon Edes late Wednesday night that the Cubs had not asked for official permission to interview Hoyer.

Hoyer will be granted permission to leave when San Diego promotes senior vice president of baseball operations Josh Byrnes to vice president-general manager, a source said. Byrnes was GM of the Arizona Diamondbacks when Moorad was part-owner of the team. Sources said Moorad always had wanted Byrnes to return to the job, even though he respected Hoyer, who he hired in 2010.

There will be no compensation for Hoyer, a source said. Moorad and Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts have become friends since the Ricketts family bought the Cubs in October 2009. Ricketts was in San Diego on Sept. 28, which was the last day of the regular season, and did not return with the Cubs on the flight back to Chicago. Ricketts met with Moorad and sat with him, Byrnes and Hoyer during the season finale.

Byrnes and Hoyer worked with Epstein in Boston before moving to their next positions. Hoyer took over as Padres GM in 2010 after Kevin Towers was fired.

 

[daddies3angels]

@nickcafardo
Nick Cafardo Just asked John Henry if Theo deal was close to being done. "No, not close," he responded.

How come BOS people keep shooting down that deal close but Chicago sources all saying deal on 5 yard line?

 

[daddies3angels]

@Ken_Rosenthal
Ken Rosenthal Source: Theo to #Cubs close, as first reported by Bruce Levine of ESPNChicago. Final details to be worked out, but that is it. #redsox

This was posted about 2 min before BOS reporter reported it not close. Could people get on the same damn info please

 

[Rice Cube]

This was posted about 2 min before BOS reporter reported it not close. Could people get on the same damn info please

Nah, some of them just want to make shit up to piss you off :lol:

 

[daddies3angels]

Nah, some of them just want to make shit up to piss you off :lol:

its working

 

[daddies3angels]

@SI_JonHeyman
Jon Heyman it has been determined jed hoyer will go to chicago with theo and be #cubs gm. not sure epstein trade finalized yet tho

I think no one knows if deal done or not.

 

[daddies3angels]

So sounds like Cub sources believe deal basically done while BOS sources saying Deal isnt close. Have to love rumors

 

[Captain Obvious]

Theo and Jed.... that sounds awesome.

 

[85Bears4life]

Whats with all the love for Padre's GM Jed Hoyer...

have you guys seen the padres lately...they suck...just saying

Dont say " SD cant spend money speech"

 

[Rice Cube]

Whats with all the love for Padre's GM Jed Hoyer...

have you guys seen the padres lately...they suck...just saying

Dont say " SD cant spend money speech"

The first year he was at SD they almost made it to the playoffs. Then they traded A-Gon and sucked. He's only been on the job for two seasons though so it's not like he's had that much time to turn it around. Plus he was with Theo during the Red Sox's run this decade. Just a little more than meets the eye.

 

[FirstTimer]

Whats with all the love for Padre's GM Jed Hoyer...

have you guys seen the padres lately...they suck...just saying

Dont say " SD cant spend money speech"

In the two seasons Hoyer has been there the team won 90 games for the first time since 1998......... then had a bad year last year......but I digress

The Hoyer love isn't so much for what he's done in Sand Diego(the sample size is WAY too small to evlaute a GM anyways, regardless of budget) but that he was a Theo guy from back in Boston and helped construct the system and team that won 2 World Series there.

He is very highly thought of in baseball circles and was on the short list for a few other GM openings before getting the San Diego gig.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Whats with all the love for Padre's GM Jed Hoyer...

have you guys seen the padres lately...they suck...just saying

Dont say " SD cant spend money speech"

The haul he got for Gonzo is enough reason to want him here.

Plus, from what I've read, he'll be bringing McLeod with him. This will be so fucking awesome. I'm so excited for our Three Headed Executive to take over.

 

[CubbyBear2290]

The haul he got for Gonzo is enough reason to want him here.

Plus, from what I've read, he'll be bringing McLeod with him. This will be so fucking awesome. I'm so excited for our Three Headed Executive to take over.

This....This exactly. We are going to be having a competent-great FO for the first time since I can remember *crosses fingers*. It's not like Theo is trying to sabotage the Cubs organization. I'm still just wondering what the compensation is.... Has anyone heard anything yet? I've been at class....

 

[Rice Cube]

Word on the street is that SD will just promote Josh Byrnes to the GM position and don't expect anything back from the Cubs. But who the hell knows for sure these days...

 

[Captain Obvious]

Yup, Rice, you're right on. We get McLeod and Hoyer, in return for nothing. Why would the Pads do this? The owner loves Byrnes. That's why.

 

[85Bears4life]

I see....didnt know anything about the guy...my bad

Hopefully he and theo can do something this offseason to get rid of the garbage hendry left us.

 

[waldo7239117]

Hoyer new Cubs GM...Byrnes new SD GM. Done deal.

 

[nickofypres]

So, they are hiring him to be team president despite the fact that his experience (and perceivably only worth) is as a GM. Then they are bringing in another GM, a "wiz kid" who in his limited time in San Diego didn't see a noted improvement in the farm system, was stupidly unable to trade Heath Bell, and gave away a superstar Adrian Gonzalez to the Red Sox for absolutely nothing. Obviously, we'll see how it turns out, but if I were a Cubs fan I wouldn't exactly be jumping for joy over this?

 

[CubbyBear2290]

So, they are hiring him to be team president despite the fact that his experience (and perceivably only worth) is as a GM. Then they are bringing in another GM, a "wiz kid" who in his limited time in San Diego didn't see a noted improvement in the farm system, was stupidly unable to trade Heath Bell, and gave away a superstar Adrian Gonzalez to the Red Sox for absolutely nothing. Obviously, we'll see how it turns out, but if I were a Cubs fan I wouldn't exactly be jumping for joy over this?

Thats because you're not noticing the big picture. Theo was getting a raise (salary/job), the padres GM almost made the playoffs in his first season before he couldn't afford to keep A-Gon, ad now they are going to have 2 of the brighter young baseball minds in Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer, McLeod, I can't really speak on, as I don't know much about him. Though what I can tell you this is exciting as thye will have the Cubs moving in the right direction in the next couple of years.