Official: New GM search thread

[waldo7239117]

Keep all of ther Cubs (Ricketts) GM search news in here. I'm tired of looking through everything and it's all arguing. No arguing in here...if you want to start an argument, ruin another thread. Or if you want to get off topic (example, stupid stats argument...happens in every thread), same statement applies, ruin another thread.

I'll start...

Cashman wants to stay with the Yanks.

Brian Cashman says he wants to remain with the Yankees as rumors swirl after Cubs fire GM Jim Hendry

The Rays beat writer Mark Topkin doesn't think Andrew Friedman will leave the Rays.

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[waldo7239117]

If it's no to Friedman and Cashman. Who is there then? There's a good chance Hahn will stay with the White Sox because Wiilliams will be gone and Reinsdolph may denie and interview, so Hahn can be their next GM. Hahn would rather be the GM for the WS than the Cubs. It doesn't look like Theo will leave the RS, but I guess there's a chance. It better not be Colletti and I'm not big on Byrnes (his name has been mentioned)...so I think there's a good chance it'll be a good surprrise (good or bad, IDK)...but I surely hope not.

 

[daddies3angels]

If it's no to Friedman and Cashman. Who is there then? There's a good chance Hahn will stay with the White Sox because Wiilliams will be gone and Reinsdolph may denie and interview, so Hahn can be their next GM. Hahn would rather be the GM for the WS than the Cubs. It doesn't look like Theo will leave the RS, but I guess there's a chance. It better not be Colletti and I'm not big on Byrnes (his name has been mentioned)...so I think there's a good chance it'll be a good surprrise (good or bad, IDK)...but I surely hope not.

After Ricketts and Hendry kept quite about change coming for more then 3 weeks i will not listen to these rumors. Ricketts has proven to me now he works under the radar. He also said in his speech he will not be answering to any of these rumors.

 

[waldo7239117]

Well yeah...I bet Rickett will be able to interview who he wants. So I guess we'll see. I either want, Friedman, Cashman, Theo or Hahn....and Gillick.

 

[Captain Obvious]

What makes you think that KW is out on the south side?

 

[nickofypres]

I don't know for sure, but It wouldn't suprise me if Williams and Guillen were gone after a disappointing 2011.

 

[waldo7239117]

What makes you think that KW is out on the south side?

From everything I have heard/read. And it would make total sense to let them both go.

 

[Dan0mite]

If it's no to Friedman and Cashman. Who is there then? There's a good chance Hahn will stay with the White Sox because Wiilliams will be gone and Reinsdolph may denie and interview, so Hahn can be their next GM. Hahn would rather be the GM for the WS than the Cubs.

I can't remember specifically where I saw it today, but I read that Hahn had it worked into Gus contract that he can interview with a select few teams without needing permission about a GM position. The Cubs were supposedly on that list.

Edit:
It was from Bruce Levine.
http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/stor...nager-rick-hahn-clause-interview-chicago-cubs

 

[2SeamHeat]

I don't want Cashman. He's been no better for the Yankees than Hendry was for us. The difference, he had an endless cash supply to cover up his many, many mistakes. Give Hendry that same kind of cash, and he'd not only have a job, but everyone would be calling him a God for bringing us a couple of championships despite several awful personnel moves.

I prefer Friedman and Hahn. Other than that, No on Cashman and Coletti. Don't know anything about the chick from the MLB offices... nor do I really know of anyone else that could be in the mix.

 

[Rice Cube]

Cashman actually built a better Yankees farm system than Hendry did with the Cubs so he's not incompetent.

I think Ricketts can throw a ton of money at Friedman and get him away from the Rays though.

 

[2SeamHeat]

Cashman actually built a better Yankees farm system than Hendry did with the Cubs so he's not incompetent.

I think Ricketts can throw a ton of money at Friedman and get him away from the Rays though.

I think this goes with money too... however, I'm not exactly sure that the Yankees farm is better than the Cubs right now.

Had Hendry had the financial commitment with each draft that he did this past one... the Cubs' farm system would be incredible right now. I attribute the farm system more to Wilken than Hendry anyway. It's Wilken that actually makes the picks in most cases.

 

[Rice Cube]

I think this goes with money too... however, I'm not exactly sure that the Yankees farm is better than the Cubs right now.

Had Hendry had the financial commitment with each draft that he did this past one... the Cubs' farm system would be incredible right now. I attribute the farm system more to Wilken than Hendry anyway. It's Wilken that actually makes the picks in most cases.

I think in either case, both Cashman and Hendry had to contend with ownership for some of their transactions. The Yankees don't draft very well because they lose picks through free agent compensation and also because they win so much (lower draft picks) but they're still able to produce a decent farm. Cashman had to overpay for Rafael Soriano. Hendry had to similarly overpay for Soriano and there's evidence that the draft was hindered by ownership not wanting to spend there.

The thing is that their overpaid guys still produce far better than our overpaid guys, and that's partially because Cashman and the Yankees are better at player evaluation.

 

[X]

I'm borderline Friedman-or-bust atm...Dude's done soooo much w/ soooo little.

 

[X]

REAL Good article on yahoo right now:

Remaking the Cubs begins with critical GM choice - MLB - Yahoo! Sports

 

[DewsSox79]

couple things to remember:

As Cashman is decorated, what can he do with less payroll?

2011 between 196,000,000 and 200,000,000
2010 206,000,000
2009 201,000,000

see my point. No one really knows what he actually is as a GM with unlimited payroll.

Reinsdorf wont let both KW and Ozzie go. I believe Ozzie will be in Miami.

The only way I see them both gone is if KW walks away to focus on his son and football. If hahn is interviewed KW is staying, if there is a release that states Jr is blocking a discussion, than KW is gone.

 

[X]

couple things to remember:

As Cashman is decorated, what can he do with less payroll?

2011 between 196,000,000 and 200,000,000
2010 206,000,000
2009 201,000,000

see my point. No one really knows what he actually is as a GM with unlimited payroll.

I have that same reservation about Cashman.

 

[2SeamHeat]

I think in either case, both Cashman and Hendry had to contend with ownership for some of their transactions. The Yankees don't draft very well because they lose picks through free agent compensation and also because they win so much (lower draft picks) but they're still able to produce a decent farm. Cashman had to overpay for Rafael Soriano. Hendry had to similarly overpay for Soriano and there's evidence that the draft was hindered by ownership not wanting to spend there.

The thing is that their overpaid guys still produce far better than our overpaid guys, and that's partially because Cashman and the Yankees are better at player evaluation.

Overpaid Yankee #1 Derrek Jeter... having about the same kind of year as... Darwin Barney... $15M compared to league minimum

Overpaid Yankee #2 Jorge Posada... makes Soriano look like a God the past couple of years but we're looking at $13M compared to $18M

Overpaid Yankee #3 AJ Burnett... this guy makes Zambo look like a dream... and is making just $1.5M less

However, when you can go out and afford ARod, Tex, Sabathia, Granderson... you can outweigh these differences.... since the Cubs can barely afford to counter with Aram, Pena, Dempster, Byrd.

 

[DewsSox79]

I have that same reservation about Cashman.

i think friedman would be a hell of a catch

 

[2SeamHeat]

I'm borderline Friedman-or-bust atm...Dude's done soooo much w/ soooo little.

I'm very close to this as well. Of course, who knows who may try to work their way out of their contracts to interview. Or what surprise may be waiting in the wings of February. To me, however, Friendman is candidate #1, especially with Ricketts' new dedication to developing from within. Especially after the moves he made to replenish their farms system with the Bartlett and Garza trades.

 

[dabynsky]

Friedman is clearly the pick of the litter, but to call Cashman Jim Hendry with unlimited money is just wrong. For one thing Cashman actual recognizes the value of OBP, and that would be the number 1 most welcomed change at the GM spot for the Cubs. Also Cashman has done well to identify the prospects worth keeping and trading the ones that weren't. That would be another welcomed skill for a Cubs GM.

I don't think Cashman is without flaws (though Cashman was vocal at the time that the Rafael Soriano signing was not his call), but I think to just write him off as incompetent without the payroll is premature. That is also why I think he might think about jumping to a team like the Cubs. He would still have a good payroll to work with, but if he won with them he would lose the label of only being able to do it with the Yankee resources. Also I think he might like to not have to deal with owners that want to play part time GM, and be allowed to build a team and organization how he would want. This is all just speculation, but I can't help but think that when Ken Rosenthal talks about current GMs wanting this job that he is talking specifically about Cashman.