Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - and No Montucky!

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You realize this invalidates your argument right?

You said “DT position is an easy to scout” and then implied it would be really easy to find a DT anywhere in the draft next season.

What would being selected in the top 10 matter then?

DT is a ridiculously hard position to scout. I’m starting to wonder if your a brilliant parody account

I confess you caught me, my alt is @bamainalabama..

 

[bears51/40]

IMO, the way the draft appears to be shaping up, I just don't see any trench guys worth taking at 10 but they may take a couple on day 2 though.
Aside from possibly CB, I expect some sort of offensive chess piece for Ben at 10. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

Considering Ben Johnson is the HC you very well could be right. Bears would still need a LT on day two at 39'41, or 72. who could you see the Bears taking in that range?

 

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Dexter looks like he is about 285 right now, could be the plan is to use him in a rotation as a base DE and slide him inside as a rush DT.

I've thought about that. He really seems to be becoming more of a 5Tech vs 3Tech. He probably is better suited for a 3-4 defense. I dont see Poles drafting a guy to come in making more money than him as a higher drafted player, and then taking away snaps.

That's a brilliant way to get a disgruntled player that wants to be traded.

 

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No apologies needed. He chose not to even run a 40 so he's not getting any Jahmyr Gibbs comps, but I get the concept that's he's a much faster Monty. He's also about 3 inches shorter and nearly 15lbs lighter, so I think he won't be able to pull it off in NFL and will get worn down trying to out muscle, much better and bigger players.

I can't think of the last RB that was his size and was consistently one of the Best RBs in the league... Sweetness?

His running style is closest to Kareem Hunt with more explosiveness. His size is of zero concern. It's not like we're taking about tweener back bordering on 200LBs. He's an inch shorter then LaDainian Tomlinson and the same weight. He put up 605 on the squat rack and made it look easy (full squat) and the trainers cut him off for safety reasons. His contact balance will transfer.

 

[SugarWalls]

Chris Jones #37
Justin Madubuike #71
Quinnen Williams #3
Jalen Carter #9
Justin Simmons #19
Dexter Lawrence #17
Vita Vea #12
Daron Payne #13
Kenny Clarke #27
Javon Hargrave #89

Please stop cherry picking only the highest drafted players at the position. Even when you try the majority still fall outside of the top 10.

It's not difficult to find a good DT in the draft, and MOST are not top 10 picks meaning that unless the Bears are really good they can find another DT somewhere during the mid first round where they will be picking


@SugarWalls @bamainatlanta etc

It’s subjective and I legitimately just went down a PFF list.

Still waiting on your top TE list

 

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His running style is closest to Kareem Hunt with more explosiveness. His size is of zero concern. It's not like we're taking about at tweener back bordering on 200LBs. He's an inch shorter then LaDainian Tomlinson and the same weight. He put up 605 on the squat rack and made it look easy (full squat) and the trainers cut him off for safety reasons. His contact balance will transfer.

Jeanty was measured at 5'8 and change 211lbs. LT was measured 5'10 and change 221lbs... thats a bit of a difference.

I can definitely see some Kareem Hunt in Jeanty's style. Maybe he will be great but in my opinion he isn't worth a top 10 pick. I think his style could just as easily be a flop because he is an undersized power rusher.

We don't know his actual speed because he is scared it will hurt his draft stock. He also was on video saying Chicago was too cold for him and since they have Swift he didn't want to be there.

Idk, maybe he'll be great and I'll loose silly for doubting him, I'm not an expert so if Poles does pull the trigger, oh well go Jeanty... I guess.

 

[bears51/40]

https://x.com/Chicago_NFL/status/1910327342313914746

Been saying this the entire time (OL in round 2)

If the Bears were to go OL in round two, I would take a long look at Charles Grant, even though it is another FCS LT. He is a freak athlete who is healthy, a stronger player coming out of college than Jones and much quicker than Amegadjie. Poles says he wants competition at LT and Grant can be that.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Dexter looks like he is about 285 right now, could be the plan is to use him in a rotation as a base DE and slide him inside as a rush DT.

He is literally the exact same weight.

 

[Wild_x_Card]

Jeanty was measured at 5'8 and change 211lbs. LT was measured 5'10 and change 221lbs... thats a bit of a difference.

I can definitely see some Kareem Hunt in Jeanty's style. Maybe he will be great but in my opinion he isn't worth a top 10 pick. I think his style could just as easily be a flop because he is an undersized power rusher.

We don't know his actual speed because he is scared it will hurt his draft stock. He also was on video saying Chicago was too cold for him and since they have Swift he didn't want to be there.

Idk, maybe he'll be great and I'll loose silly for doubting him, I'm not an expert so if Poles does pull the trigger, oh well go Jeanty... I guess.

L.T played at 215 most of his career. That's from his own mouth. People put way too much stock in a few pounds. The reality is people's weights fluctuate day to day because of water. It's nothing to see a 5LB swing on the scale.

His speed is on the tape. He has nothing to gain by running a 40. His draft stock is already solidified. He's not Gibbs fast. Not many are and in reality he doesn't need to be. He's fast enough to bust some big runs.

 

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It’s subjective and I legitimately just went down a PFF list.

Still waiting on your top TE list

Sorry I must have missed your top TE list request, but anyway... The constant whining about me saying Warren was a reasonable target for the Bears because of his versatility and the way Ben Johnson could use him...

BEFORE the rest of the "professional" draft experts echoed the same thing in multiple mocks and now have him potentially being drafted before the Bears pick...

Says more about you and the others that keep trying to claim that I am out of my mind for the suggestion.

 

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L.T played at 215 most of his career. That's from his own mouth. People put way too much stock in a few pounds. The reality is people's weights fluctuate day to day because of water. It's nothing to see a 5LB swing on the scale.

His speed is on the tape. He has nothing to gain by running a 40. His draft stock is already solidified. He's not Gibbs fast. Not many are and in reality he doesn't need to be. He's fast enough to bust some big runs.

Plenty of top RBs run the 40, Saquon was top 5 and ran it. What makes Jeanty special? He's hiding his speed and he doesn't even want to play in the cold... I'd pass on him.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1910412542721343785

Matt Bowen knows what’s up

 

[SugarWalls]

Sorry I must have missed your top TE list request, but anyway... The constant whining about me saying Warren was a reasonable target for the Bears because of his versatility and the way Ben Johnson could use him...

BEFORE the rest of the "professional" draft experts echoed the same thing in multiple mocks and now have him potentially being drafted before the Bears pick...

Says more about you and the others that keep trying to claim that I am out of my mind for the suggestion.

So if you are going to use the standard of average draft position of the top DT’s in the league I think it’s entirely fair for you to share the top TE’s in the league and average draft position.

Can’t wait to see the results!

 

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Plenty of top RBs run the 40, Saquon was top 5 and ran it. What makes Jeanty special? He's hiding his speed and he doesn't even want to play in the cold... I'd pass on him.

The sad part is you don't even realize how ridiculous you sound, passing on a player, because he opted out of a portion of the undwear Olympics. I'm glad you're not a scout or a G.M. there are ways to track game speed now in real time and scouts have built up data bases on how those numbers compare across the nation and in the league. IF Jeanty s game speed was THAT much of a concern, he wouldn't even be in consideration for a top 15 selection. He's played in the cold plenty. You're reaching for excuses. You don't have to like the prospect, but stop the silly.

 

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So if you are going to use the standard of average draft position of the top DT’s in the league I think it’s entirely fair for you to share the top TE’s in the league and average draft position.

Can’t wait to see the results!

The difference, which you densely keep missing, is that Warren is a unique player that can be utilized in various creative ways.

There is no simple apples to apples comparison for hybrid players. The same goes for Jalon Walker who is basically an offball linebacker.

If I were an idiot Lions fan, I can imagine having this same argument with people like you for wanting to draft Jahmyr Gibbs at #12 (which I did)

Gibbs isn't just a RB, he is a weapon when used creatively in various facets of the game. Same goes for Warren who can run, pass, block, punt, and receive.

 

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The sad part is you don't even realize how ridiculous you sound, passing on a player, because he opted out of a portion of the undwear Olympics. I'm glad you're not a scout or a G.M. there are ways to track game speed now in real time and scouts have built up data bases on how those numbers compare across the nation and in the league. IF Jeanty s game speed was THAT much of a concern, he wouldn't even be in consideration for a top 15 selection. He's played in the cold plenty. You're reaching for excuses. You don't have to like the prospect, but stop the silly.

Stop yourself. I said I didn't think he was worth #10 because of his size and play style. The running the 40 is just a side issue.

He literally says: I'm not gonna lie, Chicago is too cold.

 

[Washington]

Gibbs isn't just a RB, he is a weapon when used creatively in various facets of the game. Same goes for Warren who can run pass block punt and receive.

Can he play LT because we really need one of them. Our current TE is far more serviceable than our current LT. We need an impact player on the DL more than we need another TE at this time. I have to admit though that I did not know Warren was a punter too.

 

[SugarWalls]

The difference, which you densely keep missing, is that Warren is a unique player that can be utilized in various creative ways.

There is no simple apples to apples comparison for hybrid players. The same goes for Jalon Walker who is basically an offball linebacker.

If I were an idiot Lions fan, I can imagine having this same argument with people like you for wanting to draft Jahmyr Gibbs at #12 (which I did)

Gibbs isn't just a RB, he is a weapon when used creatively in various facets of the game. Same goes for Warren who can run pass block punt and receive.

You continue to avoid the question entirely.

Is this guy gonna be better than Kittle? Better than Mark Andrews? Is he going to be as good as Brock bowers?

Why don't you just answer the initial question?

 

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Can he play LT because we really need one of them. Our current TE is far more serviceable than our current LT. We need an impact player on the DL more than we need another TE at this time. I have to admit though that I did not know Warren was a punter too.

If Membou is there at 10, get him. If Poles trusts Mike Green/James Pearce off the field, I'm on board. If they believe Mykel Wright will become more than just a good run defender, no complaints....

If the HC a former TE coach decides he can build an offensive identity around the versatility of Warren in the wildcat plus a ton more 12 personnel packages like the Pats used to have... I think it will be exciting and fun and again, I'm on board.

Edit...

If he takes Jeanty I'm irritated.
If he takes Cambell I'm pissed
If he takes Banks, I'm worried.

Etc etc etc... to each their own.

 

[Wild_x_Card]

Stop yourself. I said I didn't think he was worth #10 because of his size and play style. The running the 40 is just a side issue.

He literally says: I'm not gonna lie, Chicago is too cold.

If you took that as some I won't play in Chicago because it's too cold I have some used condoms I can sell you. He'll play wherever he gets drafted.