Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - Loveland - Number 2 Scheme Fit

[dabears70]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1903254340057378991

Bears representing at Michigans pro day (no surprise).

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1903180790042857544

Better bench day for Grant.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1903136604614524978

Looks like Grant is already rising… probably will be a serious consideration at 10

Fine by me. Love the big fatty's who look like 245 pound OLB's in all the workouts.

 

[dabears70]

I know this has been posted before but gotdamn. Mike Green putting your favorite 2nd rnd tackle prospects dick in the dirt. Green is this years Verse.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1884651331803078706

Think it was both his power but also catching Conerly off balance.

 

[dabears70]

Grant gives me Akiem Hicks vibes. He is a rare athlete who absolutely can anchor that line for many years.

Dexter, Billings, Jarrett and Grant all rotating in on the DL would be nasty.

Gives me Warren Sapp vibes.

 

[SugarWalls]

Yes but to his point this “mythical 2 TE” offense is not what drove Detroit’s high powered offense. They had 1 TE that got all the targets while the other was used only slightly more than Everett here. NE had that 2 TE offense with Hernandez & Gronk but Hernandez wasn’t used on the line and lined up in the slot and the players were 2 different types of TE’s. Smythe is a better player than Wright so I’m guessing they are fine with him being the #2 TE—since he likely leapfrogs TE #3 Odunze.

Why does no one even mention they traded hockenson mid season 1 year and they were fine. Bears do not need this 2TE insanity, and if they were to have drafted last year was the year to do it

 

[DefNextYear]

How many weapons do the top offenses in the NFL have?

We have a pro bowl caliber WR, a young WR who should be a pro bowler, and a TE who is fringe top 10.

They dont need more receivers.

I understand a RB, thats a completely different conversation.

I’m against adding weapons with our current roster. I’m just pointing out it was a bad idea last year, but there seemed to be a more positive vibe around the idea then. I still believe you get a lot of diminishing returns past 3 pass catching targets.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

I could be okay with Hampton at the end of the 1st.

If they’re trading down to do that just to add more picks in a weak draft that’s meh. If they’re trading up for him so be it just as long as they don’t squander the 10th pick with a solid chance of getting a solid de/dt. That would be 3 years in a row passing on dl that would have been game changers for this team

 

[Xplosive]

I’m against adding weapons with our current roster. I’m just pointing out it was a bad idea last year, but there seemed to be a more positive vibe around the idea then. I still believe you get a lot of diminishing returns past 3 pass catching targets.

Which top 10 offense has worse skill players than what the Bears have? I'm confused at the idea that the Bears are somehow set. Keep in mind teams like KC, Chargers, Dolphins, Texans, Cowboys aren't even top 10 and all have arguably better weapons than the Bears.

Are you all really forgetting the Bears were #32 in offense last season?

 

[Xplosive]

How many weapons do the top offenses in the NFL have?

We have a pro bowl caliber WR, a young WR who should be a pro bowler, and a TE who is fringe top 10.

They dont need more receivers.

I understand a RB, thats a completely different conversation.

Top offenses all have 5-7 playmakers, here are the Bears top playmakers....

Caleb Williams, DeAndre Swift, Dj Moore, Rome Odunze, Olamide Zaccheaus, Cole Kmet

What top offense has worse playmakers??

 

[Washington]

Which top 10 offense has worse skill players than what the Bears have? I'm confused at the idea that the Bears are somehow set. Keep in mind teams like KC, Chargers, Dolphins, Texans, Cowboys aren't even top 10 and all have arguably better weapons than the Bears.

Are you all really forgetting the Bears were #32 in offense last season?

I put the bulk of that on the OL which was probably the worst in the league. Add to it a rookie QB and terrible coaching/play calling. If you don't count the QB, the Bears had more offensive weapons, save for Kelce, than KC. Could you imagine Mahomes with DJM, Allen, and Odunze? KC functioned with a hodge podge of WRs. Mahomes and Reid would probably have made a star out of Kmet.

 

[playthrough2001]

Why would the bears trade for a guy in a contract year……………..

Maybe because he’s 6’6”, weighs 250, and runs a 4.44 40. Who gives a shit if he’s in a contract year? If you have an opportunity to stack this kind of talent, you explore it. He’s basically a massive WR and a matchup nightmare. He’s 24 and not even scratching his ceiling. I don’t necessarily think they should do it but it cracks me reading about how many weapons can be utilized in a NFL offense. I guess the limit is three.

Maybe the Bears are so loaded with talent they should not look for ways to keep upgrading the offense.

I guarantee you Ben Johnson would figure it out.

What would be better, using 10 on Warren or 72 on Pitts? Warren will be 23 in May.

 

[Xplosive]

I put the bulk of that on the OL which was probably the worst in the league. Add to it a rookie QB and terrible coaching/play calling. If you don't count the QB, the Bears had more offensive weapons, save for Kelce, than KC. Could you imagine Mahomes with DJM, Allen, and Odunze? KC functioned with a hodge podge of WRs. Mahomes and Reid would probably have made a star out of Kmet.

Mahomes is on an entirely different planet than Caleb so that alone makes it almost an unfair comparison. The shell of Kelce is still at least equal to Kmet. At WR the Bears have DJ Moore meanwhile KC lost so many to injury that it's again hard to compare but Rashee Rice was very good in 2023, Xavier Worthy had 6 TDs and almost as many yards as Odunze.

RB output is comparable with a healthy Pacheko. The difference ultimately was KC had an amazing Oline AND Mahomes. The Bears dont.

 

[Xplosive]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1903180790042857544

Better bench day for Grant.

Looks like Grant is already rising… probably will be a serious consideration at 10

HUGE numbers for Grant. That is how you change the narrative about your value, no way he is dropping to the 2nd round imo. To me that moves him into contention with Mykel Williams for #10.

 

[Washington]

Mahomes is on an entirely different planet than Caleb so that alone makes it almost an unfair comparison. The shell of Kelce is still at least equal to Kmet. At WR the Bears have DJ Moore meanwhile KC lost so many to injury that it's again hard to compare but Rashee Rice was very good in 2023, Xavier Worthy had 6 TDs and almost as many yards as Odunze.

RB output is comparable with a healthy Pacheko. The difference ultimately was KC had an amazing Oline AND Mahomes. The Bears dont.

The amazing OL and a good DL is why Bears fans want to see more done in the trenches especially when you see what Philly did to KC having even better trenches. The Bears especially need a great OL because CW is so raw. Poles failed via building the team from the outside in and is now correcting that, er should I say BJ is now correcting the approach.

I feel the team needs another RB but I don't want to see that in the first. Outside of that, I really want to see the focus on the trenches. I also don't want to see Poles giving up more draft capital for expensive players causing future cap hell.

 

[Xplosive]

Would you trade 72 for Kyle Pitts? He’s still only 24 years old and hasn’t scratched the surface of what he could be.

Falcons rumors: Kyle Pitts could garner a Day 2 NFL Draft pick via trade

After three-straight underwhelming seasons, the Falcons could potentially secure a Day 2 pick for Kyle Pitts around the 2025 NFL Draft.

clutchpoints.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1901040287054475276

Hell no for #72, but for next years 5th... Maybe.

 

[playthrough2001]

Hell no for #72, but for next years 5th... Maybe.

How about a 2027 7th?

 

[Xplosive]

The amazing OL and a good DL is why Bears fans want to see more done in the trenches especially when you see what Philly did to KC having even better trenches. The Bears especially need a great OL because CW is so raw. Poles failed via building the team from the outside in and is now correcting that, er should I say BJ is now correcting the approach.

I feel the team needs another RB but I don't want to see that in the first. Outside of that, I really want to see the focus on the trenches. I also don't want to see Poles giving up more draft capital for expensive players causing future cap hell.

LOL your missing the Generational QB part of the equation. Even when Mahomes OL was mediocre he was amazing because he had Kelce and Tyreek Hill. The Bears don't have a Kelce or Tyreek and that is just as important as building the worlds greatest OL/DL.

 

[Xplosive]

How about a 2027 7th?

Pitts has had one above average year, much like Kmet. A fifth for a guy that hasn't had over 700 yards the last 3 years is a pretty good get. I mean they can just as easily use #72 on another TE that they will have on a cheap contract for 4 years versus waste it on one year of Pitts.

 

[SugarWalls]

Maybe because he’s 6’6”, weighs 250, and runs a 4.44 40. Who gives a shit if he’s in a contract year? If you have an opportunity to stack this kind of talent, you explore it. He’s basically a massive WR and a matchup nightmare. He’s 24 and not even scratching his ceiling. I don’t necessarily think they should do it but it cracks me reading about how many weapons can be utilized in a NFL offense. I guess the limit is three.

Maybe the Bears are so loaded with talent they should not look for ways to keep upgrading the offense.

I guarantee you Ben Johnson would figure it out.

What would be better, using 10 on Warren or 72 on Pitts? Warren will be 23 in May.

Yes but you have to make a decision to pay a player that would have had only 1 real year of success assuming he were to succeed in chicago, which just doesn't make any sense. The benefit of a 2nd round pick is getting a player that is on a rookie contract, you lose that when you trade the pick.

Drafting warren would be better than trading for pitts, and I certainly do not want the bears to draft Warren

 

[playthrough2001]

Pitts has had one above average year, much like Kmet. A fifth for a guy that hasn't had over 700 yards the last 3 years is a pretty good get. I mean they can just as easily use #72 on another TE that they will have on a cheap contract for 4 years versus waste it on one year of Pitts.

Would you rather burn 10 on Tyler Warren or 72 on Pitts and extend him?

They have shown interest in Taylor so we know TE is something they might explore.

 

[playthrough2001]

Yes but you have to make a decision to pay a player that would have had only 1 real year of success assuming he were to succeed in chicago, which just doesn't make any sense. The benefit of a 2nd round pick is getting a player that is on a rookie contract, you lose that when you trade the pick.

Drafting warren would be better than trading for pitts, and I certainly do not want the bears to draft Warren

72 is a third round pick.