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Results: Eleven of the 24 injuries had antecedent symptoms. The most common mechanism of injury was an eccentric overload to a contracting extensor mechanism. Physical examination demonstrated a palpable defect in all players. Twenty-two were complete ruptures, and 2 were partial injuries. Three of the 24 cases had a concomitant anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injury. In 19 of the 24 injuries, the player returned to participate in at least 1 game in the NFL. Players who returned were drafted, on average, in the fourth round, while those who failed to return to play were drafted, on average, in the sixth round. Of those players who returned to play, the average number of games played was 45.4, with a range of 1 to 142 games

Lmao from the article you shared.

They noted successful return as participating in 1 game in the NFL. Nice!
With an average of 3 years playing afterward.
 

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Because of his injury he has not been able to put in any work. Hell, he just came out of the boot a weel ago. Also, because of injuries Jones has missed 11 games over the last two seasons. Risk does not match the reward for the 2025 season. Campbell or Banks at 10, don't think Membou will make it that far.

I have no real idea but my guess is Poles and co don't want to move Wright to left tackle. I just don't think they want to **** with the guy at this point in his career. He's looking good and he's improving and I don't think they want to mess with that. To my mind, he's staying at RT.

And I'm also guessing they wouldn't want to move Membou from RT either.
 

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With an average of 3 years playing afterward.
I would have to go back to the article to see how that was determined but as you can see the range is massive, doesn’t seem wise to put much weight into an average of 1-145. The variance is too large.

That also excluded those that didn’t return.

It also gives no information as to quality of play. Were they back ups? Bad players? Pro bowlers? Did they return to a different position? Did they start?

All the measured was did they play
 

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I have no real idea but my guess is Poles and co don't want to move Wright to left tackle. I just don't think they want to **** with the guy at this point in his career. He's looking good and he's improving and I don't think they want to mess with that. To my mind, he's staying at RT.

And I'm also guessing they wouldn't want to move Membou from RT either.
Agree, just draft that pure LT at 10.
 

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Agree, just draft that pure LT at 10.

Who is that pure LT? This draft sucks for tackles, it's s really weak position group. I really want a LT myself, but not at the opportunity cost of Grant or Green for a group of guys that don't project to be impact players at LT, if they can even stick.
 

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I would have to go back to the article to see how that was determined but as you can see the range is massive, doesn’t seem wise to put much weight into an average of 1-145. The variance is too large.

That also excluded those that didn’t return.

It also gives no information as to quality of play. Were they back ups? Bad players? Pro bowlers? Did they return to a different position? Did they start?

All the measured was did they play
Well, you made it seem like it was a career ender. 145 games is a long time.
 

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Well, you made it seem like it was a career ender. 145 games is a long time.
The range was 1 game to 145 games. Without the full article it’s hard to garner much info. What if 7 people played 1 game and then a few played 10 and then 1 person played 145 games, is a massive outlier, and skews the average.

Hard to say without the full article
 

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Who is that pure LT? This draft sucks for tackles, it's s really weak position group. I really want a LT myself, but not at the opportunity cost of Grant or Green for a group of guys that don't project to be impact players at LT, if they can even stick.
Banks.
 

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The range was 1 game to 145 games. Without the full article it’s hard to garner much info. What if 7 people played 1 game and then a few played 10 and then 1 person played 145 games, is a massive outlier, and skews the average.

Hard to say without the full article
You can say 1 person played 145 games after a similar injury.
 

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I’m saying your premise is wrong that Simmons career is done because of his injury.
My premise is that statistically speaking the odds are against him having a long healthy career. The article you posted supports this.

Is it possible he returns, is a good player, has a 10 year career? Yeah sure, it’s like 1 in a million.

I’m saying there’s a chance
 

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