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Defense was bad in second half. These next 3 are going to be brutal.
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Such a fast pace tonight, no defense. Everyone to tired to play defense.
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Coby tonight: 36 points, 7 assists, 0 turnovers.
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yep, probably his best game as a bull. The zero turnovers stood out big time
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I already dicussed some of your points when you made these comments before...your a parrot nothing more. ..oh btw they are a young team they will get better. Too many turnovers as well in the first half
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I want to clarify, I wasn't taking a direct shot at you or any side of the argument there, I like them both. It was more just a general statement of what I had been seeing discussed, but I could see that it could also be taken as sort of a snide remark. I am not a good enough analyst to be able to form an opinion on that subject. I do agree thought that I FEEL like Sato is maybe the better TRUE PG, but Coby is definitely a better scorer, obviously. It goes a bit to my other point of...
Like before, I feel like they are one player away, but what position do you put that player and who are they most invested in. Zach is the man, which means you can't really move Coby to SG... right? I am not as good at how NBA lineups work because I watch college college more. So I don't know if Zach is considered a straight 2 or more of a three or whatever. But I also feel like NBA doesn't really have positions anymore, they just throw guys out there that are working. Lauri is super talented, but I still feel like he's the odd man out if they aren't going to be able to truely build around him. Wendell has really turned me around, I didn't hate him but I thought he'd peeked, yet if he keeps man balling and rebounding like he did last night, I think he can keep getting better. So where does that leave them? Sato, White, Levin, Markeneneneneenen, Carter? Porter first off bench? Patrick Williams first off bench? I think he's going to be too good to do that to. Which means Sato back to the bench and Colby back to PG. He just has to be there I guess because too much of the rest of the lineup revolves around Sato not starting to get the others correctly. You trade Lauri. Or Porter, or Young. But what do you need back? I prefer Lauri, because I think that's a better return, but also, the other two seem to be tougher, better defensively and fit better. They don't seem to NEED to shoot, or force shots to get in rhythm.
With Coby and Levine seeming to be the primary ball hogs... I mean scorers, I don't think you need Lauri in there also trying to find his. I think he can be an excellent player in this league I just don't think it's on this team. Unless maybe you ship White out?
P.S. I don't care what King says, **** Valentine, yeah I said it.
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I didn't think you were singling me out. I just wanted to clarify as well. 'Tis all good.
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I feel like this was one of those games where the Bulls are so not used to being in the position of winning a close game late that they almost didn't know what to do with themselves. hah Hopefully that rights with time.
It's the end of the game, what do we do... just give it to zach and let him go shoot practice shots, but but we're only down 2... oh... well. Give it to Zach and... I don't know. just give it to him damn it. He'll figure something out.
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Yeah, that possession Zach forced a three was bad. Especially after Coby was getting to the rim with ease and finishing.
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Didn't watch much of the game because I was so amazed by the other happenings, but the second night of a back to back with a big comeback victory on the road, I was expecting a let down to the tune of a 15 point or so defeat. Glad I was wrong. Sure, the loss sucks, but they fought. All you can ask of this team.
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I´m not sure how much longer I can take the terribull P&R defense of Wendell Carter!
This is exactly what drove me nuts with Pau Gasol couple of years ago.
But today, where everybody can shoot, you get murdered this way.
Move your lazy a** and contest the shot! He leaves his guard all alone on an island against 2 offensive players.
I mean seriously..... he is not even in the effing picture!!!
This is exactly what drove me nuts with Pau Gasol couple of years ago.
But today, where everybody can shoot, you get murdered this way.
Move your lazy a** and contest the shot! He leaves his guard all alone on an island against 2 offensive players.
I mean seriously..... he is not even in the effing picture!!!
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They are learning how to basically win games or play with a lead its a process it will take time.
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Honestly, when I see that sometimes I wonder how much of that is in the defensive scheme. I know players can be dumb and/or lazy, but sometimes I feel like they're just doing what they were told. Not sure if this is one or the other, haven't really paid attention to all the PnR situations
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Yep, and I still very much think Zach is that guy, they just have to learn that it's not ok Zach here is the ball we're going to watch you dribble around and make a 50/50 superman shot. They'll actually run something to get him a good shot or hit the hot hand with him as the decoy. New coach always brings optimism, but I feel like I've seen actual translations to what people are doing and how they are playing, instead of just getting a little new coach bump. Feels like they have already bought in, something I don't think I've seen in a long time. But maybe it's just wanting to see it.
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you dont even know how many games we have played so again like your previous conversations where i said i wouldnt got at you personally, you are a dolt and have no platform. Oh yeah, got no problem going after you personally now since you felt the need. Here's a life lesson little boy don't take kindness for weakness.
and i will say the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over until it happens. if it bothers you ignore it because your wants needs and takes on things dont factor into my life in anyway
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I don't think so. Not at 19.5M next year, I think he's got too much value in him when you're trying to rebuild. I think you need to keep the value in order to have space to fill in around him then maybe if it still isn't working out you have a really nice trade piece at the deadline next year with the expiring contract.
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Thats brutal, at least pau sucked because he lacked athleticism. Carter is plenty athletic to guard out there on the pnr
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Yep I made a mistake it happens there mate...Again you went after me once again its fine though you have no clue about basketball as i brought some important points but you cannot argue them soo you just pretend not to see them cool story tough guy.
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Damn, I can't believe how these 20-21 year old 1st rounders haven't fixed their weaknesses yet. This is just awful. Blow this puppy up.