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[Spitta Andretti]

You drafted Roquan

And will have up to 5 years of contract control if the Bears so choose. Whats your point

 

[Spitta Andretti]

Poles is building through the draft. I think he's made that fairly obvious. Your little assumption that the bears won't have money is false.

 

[nc0gnet0]

Poles is building through the draft. I think he's made that fairly obvious. Your little assumption that the bears won't have money is false.

1) I never said the Bears didn't have any money, my point is that it is not nearly as substantial as many think it is.
2) Building through the draft means keeping the players that you actually drafted to a second contract.
3) Yes, build a team with a multitude of day 3 picks, perfect plan
4) Your just a butt hurt little moron that doesn't like to face the truth.

 

[bamainatlanta]

So the Bears in 2023 need to replace:

Roquan Smith (FA)
Robert Quin (expiring contract)
Brain Pringle (1 year contract)
Reily Reif (1 year contract)
Michael Shofield (1 year contract)
David Montgomery

While also likely needing to extend Jaylon Johnson, Cole Kmet and Darnel Mooney

That 2023 Cap money is going to disappear faster than anyone on here imagines, and that is just to maintain the status quo of one of the worst rosters in the NFL.

Keep coping. I'm not sure you understand how the cap actually works

 

[dennehy]

ok, let's play.

Resigning Smith -20 mil

Extending Kmet/Johnson/Mooney -20 mil
(of course you could wait, and then have another smith situation on your hands next year)

Replace at least one O-lineman -10 mil
add one decent WR -12 mil
replace edge -12 mil
fill remaining roster -20 mil

And those are all ho-hum mid level signings

You don't have any idea how contracts work. The cost of those first three in their first yea will be low. They will be extensions.

The rest, if they are long term deals will have large amortized bonuses and will cost much less in the first year.

Also if you need a new edge, the -12m is what you'd save in cutting Quinn, roughly. So it's a wash..

Bears will also have some rollover to add and a draft. And also could cut Jackson and Whitehair.

 

[bamainatlanta]

ok, let's play.

Resigning Smith -20 mil

Extending Kmet/Johnson/Mooney -20 mil
(of course you could wait, and then have another smith situation on your hands next year)

Replace at least one O-lineman -10 mil
add one decent WR -12 mil
replace edge -12 mil
fill remaining roster -20 mil

And those are all ho-hum mid level signings

You spread the cap hits around you noob.
@remydat this guy thinks ask the money will be gone in just 1 year!

 

[Aquineas]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1557184842718236672

Mario Edwards should be at DE. More surprises:

• Thomas Graham is at 5th string CB behind Duke Shelley (that one surprised me a lot)
• Mike Pennel is 3rd string DT

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Every offseason I see teams $100 million over the cap manage to retain most of their valuable players and add pieces, but the bears with around $100 million in cap are going to be struggling to re-sign their own players. Sounds like an interesting theory. The lack of comprehension of an expiring contract is interesting too.

 

[Canth]

Mario Edwards should be at DE. More surprises:

• Thomas Graham is at 5th string CB behind Duke Shelley (that one surprised me a lot)
• Mike Pennel is 3rd string DT

Thomas Graham has been hurt and just hasn't practiced much, so it makes sense he is down on the list. I think he may still be hurt now?

 

[DrGonzo]

I love the Smith contract dispute because now the Jenkins Twitter musings have disappeared. We just need a new player to melt down or hold out every two weeks or so until the regular season starts to keep the discussion fresh.

 

[bamainatlanta]

That depth chart is easily one of the least talented in the league. And also lacking hardly any depth. @MikeDitkaPolishSausage who was telling us that the depth on this roster was good??

 

[nc0gnet0]

Keep coping. I'm not sure you understand how the cap actually works

Maybe you have me confused with Ryan Pace?

 

[nc0gnet0]

You don't have any idea how contracts work. The cost of those first three in their first yea will be low. They will be extensions.

The rest, if they are long term deals will have large amortized bonuses and will cost much less in the first year.

Also if you need a new edge, the -12m is what you'd save in cutting Quinn, roughly. So it's a wash..

Bears will also have some rollover to add and a draft. And also could cut Jackson and Whitehair.

they could be structured that way yes, if you want to start another phase of Ryan Pace kick the can down the road again.

 

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1557139293285584901

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1557093304717774851

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1557341654130069504

 

[dennehy]

they could be structured that way yes, if you want to start another phase of Ryan Pace kick the can down the road again.

No, the new money would just kick in on the cap in the first new year of the deal. Pay them the signing bonus in 2023 and then the regular portion starts in in 24 so the money goes up then. It's common practice around the the league for players signed after three years. Also pretty much every multiyear contract is backloaded.

You come on here to talk about these things all the time, and yet you still have no idea how they work. That should tell you something.

 

[onebud34]

That depth chart is easily one of the least talented in the league. And also lacking hardly any depth. @MikeDitkaPolishSausage who was telling us that the depth on this roster was good??

Oh yes, the "really good depth" but bad starters approach that a poster was championing around here recently.

That one was a gem

 

[Discus fish salesman]

No, the new money would just kick in on the cap in the first new year of the deal. Pay them the signing bonus in 2023 and then the regular portion starts in in 24 so the money goes up then. It's common practice around the the league for players signed after three years. Also pretty much every multiyear contract is backloaded.

You come on here to talk about these things all the time, and yet you still have no idea how they work. That should tell you something.

It's pretty common sense contracts are backloaded as the cap continues to increase each year. Not sure how he doesn't understand that.

Paces issue was constant restructuring and void years, pushing unnecessary money into the future to try to save his job.

 

[nc0gnet0]

No, the new money would just kick in on the cap in the first new year of the deal. Pay them the signing bonus in 2023 and then the regular portion starts in in 24 so the money goes up then. It's common practice around the the league for players signed after three years. Also pretty much every multiyear contract is backloaded.

You come on here to talk about these things all the time, and yet you still have no idea how they work. That should tell you something.

Yes, I have no idea how they work, when the vast majority of CCS posters thought the Bears had a lot of Cap money to play with this year, HA!

The fact remains, yes you have a lot of Cap, unfortunately you don't have any players, and the good ones you do have all will need new contracts.

Probably why now, after the Roquan debacle, the Bears are now the laughing stock of national sports radio, but keep living in your sheltered world.

 

[Canth]

It's pretty common sense contracts are backloaded as the cap continues to increase each year. Not sure how he doesn't understand that.

Paces issue was constant restructuring and void years, pushing unnecessary money into the future to try to save his job.

Yeah, he brought the New Orleans cap management theory to the Bears without the benefit of Drew Brees being his qb.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

@dennehy is on a murder spree in this thread

Cc @Visionman @nc0gnet0

Whose next? Lol