Offseason rumors/discussion thread

[chibears55]

Things are getting interesting now.

Sox out on Harper.

SFG don't think that they can go 300Mil

Philly would have to offer over Stanton for him to sign.

Shit is silly.

Be funny after all that he ends up taking a deal with the cubs

 

[anotheridiot]

Ummm.....because of the guarantee.

and get another 5/200 when he is only 31? You are not talking about a 30 year old here, he is 26? The point is these guys dont give a **** about producing for 10 years. The Padres suck, they will always suck, they build up and tear down fast, PLUS, he is signing where the top SS prospect in Baseball is going to be playing so I guess he is at third? What is the difference since he might finally get title hopes and opt out in 5 years anyway?

 

[anotheridiot]

:facepalm2:

we will bookmark this one when he is out of gas in august as to the excuses that start piling in.

 

[CSF77]

Be funny after all that he ends up taking a deal with the cubs

It would be plausable if Tom is being honest on it is a money issue vs a tax issue.

Cueto paid by insurance in 2019 in the rotation to replace Cole in 20.

Payroll would naturally balance in 20 with Come and Zo off the books anyways.

SFG would get a starter and a RF for a DL case and add a lefty in AAA that has some upside. With Botchy retiring turn over is going to happen anyways. Maddbum is not the same guy so they are going to walk anyways on him. Why not start the rebuild early.

 

[CSF77]

and get another 5/200 when he is only 31? You are not talking about a 30 year old here, he is 26? The point is these guys dont give a **** about producing for 10 years. The Padres suck, they will always suck, they build up and tear down fast, PLUS, he is signing where the top SS prospect in Baseball is going to be playing so I guess he is at third? What is the difference since he might finally get title hopes and opt out in 5 years anyway?

I actually kinda take offense to this statement about SD.

I've lived here for 27 years now and this city is fair weather. In many regards. Summer time there is a shit ton of things to do and with LA 100 miles north it gets silly. Surfing and quality hiking trails.

To say the least if a team is shitting out a season the city has much better things to do.

That said when they are competitive the downtown is livid. And yes SD rebuilt the whole district just because of the move. And if any get a chance to come out well it is worth it. A wining team well don't bother driving and take the trolley.

I try to catch the Cubs here at least 1 time per year. And the park is worth it.

Moral here:. SD returns loyalty vs pays for inferior goods. We are not bored as **** out here where we have to spend our paychecks on crap. If the product is worth the price then the seats fill.

End of the story.

 

[chibears55]

Guy told me he heard that Harper has multiple 10 yr 300 mil offers but not accepting because he waiting on 1 specific team...

 

[anotheridiot]

I am glad I finally found a way to pay you back for all the times you offended me, but I did not whine about it. All your argument was everything but the Padres baseball team. You show up when the cubs are there, well, thats the entire league, nothing special. This is Grienke picking Arizona simply because it was the most money. He does not care about titles, fans, making the post season, he just took the biggest money, guaranteed, where it does not matter if he hustles, hits, fields, puts on 40 pounds and is useless.

San Diego made a run, then sold the big dollar players. They at least go the entire year, I will give them that credit, but the point was, if Manny wanted this 5 year opt out in the contract, then there really was no reason to not just take a five year deal for even money. Trout will be getting 40-45, Betts will be at 35 million, Bryant, who knows, who knows how nuts it will get, and I guarantee, if Machado is still hitting 30 home runs, driving in 100, getting on base alot, he will opt out and look for a 40 million dollar deal.

What was the argument with Chicago? They could have him bat 549 times and sit him to get themselves out of the deal, when he was 34 with 250 million in the bank.

I am glad the cubs did not even kick the tires.

 

[CSF77]

I am glad I finally found a way to pay you back for all the times you offended me, but I did not whine about it. All your argument was everything but the Padres baseball team. You show up when the cubs are there, well, thats the entire league, nothing special. This is Grienke picking Arizona simply because it was the most money. He does not care about titles, fans, making the post season, he just took the biggest money, guaranteed, where it does not matter if he hustles, hits, fields, puts on 40 pounds and is useless.

San Diego made a run, then sold the big dollar players. They at least go the entire year, I will give them that credit, but the point was, if Manny wanted this 5 year opt out in the contract, then there really was no reason to not just take a five year deal for even money. Trout will be getting 40-45, Betts will be at 35 million, Bryant, who knows, who knows how nuts it will get, and I guarantee, if Machado is still hitting 30 home runs, driving in 100, getting on base alot, he will opt out and look for a 40 million dollar deal.

What was the argument with Chicago? They could have him bat 549 times and sit him to get themselves out of the deal, when he was 34 with 250 million in the bank.

I am glad the cubs did not even kick the tires.

Didn't really offend me as a Padre fan because I'm not. But your statement was from a ignorant viewpoint that needed to be addressed.

This is the exact same thing Fla goes through. Too much to do to waste time on a loser.

LAD gets fans regardless. Just the base and history alone. LAA needs to be good. I've been past that stadium but not in it. Wasn't impressed honestly. Disneyland is a better time in Anaheim.

 

[CSF77]

And FYI. We are the 2nd largest city in California. San Diego can support a big market team. On of the issues is most of us are imports via military or just peeps moving out of the snow we have winter houses out here and they have squatters here in the summer. We are diverse. Camp Penaliton up north North Island Naval and 32nd St. So there is plenty of fans of the visitors. Cubs come in and the Down town goes blue. Just saying.

 

[chibears55]

Wild prediction here

Cubs end up trading Heyward and signing Harper by next week

 

[CSF77]

Wild prediction here

Cubs end up trading Heyward and signing Harper by next week

I would love to see that. And wouldn't it be fitting if Jason was on a upswing and hit .300 again with a large RF to spray in.

IDK honestly. It just feels bad fit. Plus D RF when the park is small. His value was more in a larger park where he can cover the gaps and the gaps were bigger to hit into in 1/2 of his games. I just see him as a natural fit in SF

 

[chibears55]

Heard Zobrist may be traded so they can sign Greg Holland

 

[anotheridiot]

Heard Zobrist may be traded so they can sign Greg Holland

Still wondering what the excused absence is about. I guess I am the only one that sees this ricketts theo relationship deteriorating to the point of not having money to spend so he moves the most respected and liked guy in the clubhouse to get a 10 million dollar reliever? This might be getting to the cut off the nose to spite the face conversation.

As far as the Giants, I would think reprising the splash downs with Harper would be a better choice, maybe they have seen Heyward try to play center and think the same results will happen in a huge right field?

 

[fatbeard]

Still wondering what the excused absence is about. I guess I am the only one that sees this ricketts theo relationship deteriorating to the point of not having money to spend so he moves the most respected and liked guy in the clubhouse to get a 10 million dollar reliever? This might be getting to the cut off the nose to spite the face conversation.

Maybe you should present actual evidence of this "deteriorating relationship" if you want people believe it? Wild, I know.

 

[anotheridiot]

Maybe you should present actual evidence of this "deteriorating relationship" if you want people believe it? Wild, I know.

no algorithms or abacus here, so I cant prove anything. They have been a tight lipped group since Theo started and are somehow doing alot of public speaking about mistakes lately. Theo calls out Madden, Ricketts basically says, we have one of the top payrolls in baseball and are not even close to locking up any of our core long term is pretty much addressing how the money is being pissed away and Theo basically starting it by saying they said I cant offer any more big money contracts even if its time for my luck to change and get a winner.

Geez, this day of social media juries, how is it going so unnoticed?

 

[CSF77]

no algorithms or abacus here, so I cant prove anything. They have been a tight lipped group since Theo started and are somehow doing alot of public speaking about mistakes lately. Theo calls out Madden, Ricketts basically says, we have one of the top payrolls in baseball and are not even close to locking up any of our core long term is pretty much addressing how the money is being pissed away and Theo basically starting it by saying they said I cant offer any more big money contracts even if its time for my luck to change and get a winner.

Geez, this day of social media juries, how is it going so unnoticed?

Theo has said that anything than a 10 year window is too much. He is most likely leaving after this deal is up but due to his values vs a relationship.

People are not that fragile.

 

[fatbeard]

no algorithms or abacus here, so I cant prove anything. They have been a tight lipped group since Theo started and are somehow doing alot of public speaking about mistakes lately. Theo calls out Madden, Ricketts basically says, we have one of the top payrolls in baseball and are not even close to locking up any of our core long term is pretty much addressing how the money is being pissed away and Theo basically starting it by saying they said I cant offer any more big money contracts even if its time for my luck to change and get a winner.

Geez, this day of social media juries, how is it going so unnoticed?

1) At no point did Epstein ever "call out" Maddon. In fact, after the season he reiterated that Maddon was in good standing with the org, that he was completely satisfied with Maddon's performance, and that he wasn't looking for a "yes man" as a manager.

2) At no point did Ricketts even imply that the reason why they weren't spending more money was because too much money had been wasted on FAs. What he did say is that there was no more money in the budget. Sorry if you believe that budgets are not real things that teams have to deal with.

3) At no point did Epstein imply that he is considering leaving because of financial limitations imposed on him by ownership.

So basically your "evidence" of a Epstein-Ricketts rift boils down to a few quotes that you have badly misinterpreted. Got it.

 

[CSF77]

1) At no point did Epstein ever "call out" Maddon. In fact, after the season he reiterated that Maddon was in good standing with the org, that he was completely satisfied with Maddon's performance, and that he wasn't looking for a "yes man" as a manager.

2) At no point did Ricketts even imply that the reason why they weren't spending more money was because too much money had been wasted on FAs. What he did say is that there was no more money in the budget. Sorry if you believe that budgets are not real things that teams have to deal with.

3) At no point did Epstein imply that he is considering leaving because of financial limitations imposed on him by ownership.

So basically your "evidence" of a Epstein-Ricketts rift boils down to a few quotes that you have badly misinterpreted. Got it.

Pretty sure he has a snowflake outlook on life.

 

[Castor76]

Heard Zobrist may be traded so they can sign Greg Holland

I'm not sure why the Cubs would trade a hitter to free up money to sign a pitcher when their pen is fairly much set with either guys who should be on the 25 man, guys whose contracts dictate they make the 25 man, and maybe one spot for guys coming up and down for flexibility.

Tell me they're going to trade Q and pray Chatwood bounces back to even a 1 WAR and I could believe that.

 

[CSF77]

I'm not sure why the Cubs would trade a hitter to free up money to sign a pitcher when their pen is fairly much set with either guys who should be on the 25 man, guys whose contracts dictate they make the 25 man, and maybe one spot for guys coming up and down for flexibility.

Tell me they're going to trade Q and pray Chatwood bounces back to even a 1 WAR and I could believe that.

I kinda agree here. I kinda see this as if Chatwood rebounds and excells in a late inning role. Well he is durable and nasty with his spin rates. Lots of movement.

Shoot 13M is really not alot if he ends up the closer this year. That is a if but it could happen if everything falls right. And honestly it would be kinda funny like a reverse Dempster scenerio.