Offseason Stuff

[anotheridiot]

Joe lost depth.

The problem was Theo sold off system depth in hitting to correct system depth in pitching.

It was a choice made early on when they chose to attack the draft via hitting from the begining.

Regardless, the Halos made a big commitment to Joe and made a huge extension to Trout. Otani will be starting again. I expect them to make a huge play on Cole. They could even afford to go after Hamels as a 4/5 option at lesser cash

Bryant would be a savings trade to keep payroll in check for them. I wouldn't expect Adell in return. But Marsh I would be happy as a return with a pitcher like Sandoval.

3/12 is not a big commitment.

 

[CSF77]

3/12 is not a big commitment.

4 mil for a non player? We must be spoiled.

2019:

1. Joe 6 mil per with Bochy. (retired)
2. Franconia 4 mil. Tied with Joe now.
3. Yost 3.7 mil (retired)
4. Hurtle 3 mil (fired)

A study by USA TODAY of all 30 major-league teams found there are 21 active managers earning $1.5 million or less this season. There are just three managers earning more than the average major-league player salary of $4 million.Aug 27, 2018

 

[CSF77]

Girardi's per season has not been revield yet but it is a 3 plus option deal.

So Joe was a commitment.

 

[Steve_A]

A lot of options beginning to be declined. Could there be a hidden jewel out there?

 

[CSF77]

A lot of options beginning to be declined. Could there be a hidden jewel out there?

Jake Diekman


5.75 mil opt. A's chose to pay the 500K buy out.

 

[Castor76]

Jake Diekman


5.75 mil opt. A's chose to pay the 500K buy out.

He's only once in his career had a whip below 1.30 and twice had and ERA below 3.40?

 

[fatbeard]

Yadi has nothing to do with it. Yadi, as great as he was defensively, has been terribly overrated for years. He is a shell of his former self, but gets accolades anyway by lazy writers. He is not the basis for my evaluation of Contreras.

Contreras' framing has been ranked far below average every season he has played. He had a lot of errors in 2019. That isn't a subjective opinion. Look it up.

I want Willie on my team. But I am not a 12 year-old who pretends their favorites are best at everything when they aren't.

Show me a stat - any stat - that indicates Willson is above average overall as a catcher. He just isn't. And he is not smart enough to know when to say "whoa". He guns the ball over the field recklessly. He has a strong arm, and I love seeing him pick a guy off first. But he hurts more than helps by trying it too often.

2.0 is an average WAR. Here's Contreras', in barely 400 PAs:

https://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=11609&position=C

He graded out as neutral defensively.

 

[fatbeard]

Assuming you could sign him to a long-term extension, would you trade Bryant for Syndergaard straight up?

 

[SilenceS]

Trading Bryant is the right move. Rendon most likely resigns and I see ATL retaining Donaldson.

The teams that would be good targets are Minn, LAA and Texas Rangers. Joe now with the Halos they might be in play for some flashy moves and this might be a opertunity for Theo to get a strong return for KB.

Trading Bryant is not the right move unless you get the return. Period

 

[Castor76]

Assuming you could sign him to a long-term extension, would you trade Bryant for Syndergaard straight up?

It'd be tough, but yes.

 

[Steve_A]

Trading Bryant is not the right move unless you get the return. Period

I don’t think anyone is debating that sir.

 

[anotheridiot]

The perfect offseason is sprouting, with Butterfield following Maddening to LA. Now maybe we get a third base coach that will send the runner and win some of these one run games.

 

[Steve_A]

Well, let's get into this. The Cubs have about 182-190M in payroll if they literally did nothing and filled from within. Boston is sitting at roughly 220M. Boston has already expressed the need to cut payroll. Boston also needs closer help. So, if they were willing, the Cubs pick up Morrow's option and package him with Quintana and Bryant for Sale and JD Martinez. That's 40.5M going to Boston and 53.75M coming back to the Cubs. For Boston, it's trading 3 years of JD for 2 years of Bryant and gives Boston another 22.5 M coming off the books at the end of the season.

The downside for the Cubs truly is that the market at 3B is either too expensive to really replace with quality or barren. Same at SS if they moved Javy to 3B. But I go with Happ at 3B and move Nico to CF, which lead me to my next move.

Call up Philly and the Mets, presuming they're not on his no trade list, and see what I can get for Heyward and 40M, which would free up 11M on this year's payroll.

Then it's call KC and offer up Russell and whatever else it might take to get Whit "I'll get his name right this time" Merrifield. That adds about 5M to payroll. After that, if they really wanted to shed payroll they could see what they could get for Chatwood.

Line up of
Merrifield 2B
Rizzo 1B
Martinez RF
Schwarber LF
Baez SS
Contreras C
Happ 3B
Hoerner CF

Rotation of
Darvish
Sale
Hendricks
Lester
Chatwood/Alzolay/Mills

Keeping Chatwood gives them a payroll around 197M to start the season.

You could remove Bryant and Martinez from the deal which would take about 6M off the payroll.

Why would the RedSox want Bryant with Devers around though?

 

[Steve_A]

Assuming you could sign him to a long-term extension, would you trade Bryant for Syndergaard straight up?

Bryant has the longer track record so would want a bit more from the Mets. But, isn’t a bad idea considering the needs of the team and that we could probably move Happ to third if needed.

 

[Castor76]

Why would the RedSox want Bryant with Devers around though?

He could take Martinez's place at DH. They could try moving Betts to CF and have Bryant in RF. And it would be more about getting Martiniez off their books.

 

[Steve_A]

Trading Bryant is the right move. Rendon most likely resigns and I see ATL retaining Donaldson.

The teams that would be good targets are Minn, LAA and Texas Rangers. Joe now with the Halos they might be in play for some flashy moves and this might be a opertunity for Theo to get a strong return for KB.

He could take Martinez's place at DH. They could try moving Betts to CF and have Bryant in RF. And it would be more about getting Martiniez off their books.

The one trade I can see happening is

Bryant - Dustin May and a couple of young guys

Dodgers are craving a ring but Rendon is not the type of guy the front office likes to give long offers to.
(They've already talked about moving Turner elsewhere so third base is open as well)
They'd like Bryant as a two year rental and the Cubs would love to have some potential top of the rotation talent.

 

[Castor76]

The one trade I can see happening is

Bryant - Dustin May and a couple of young guys

Dodgers are craving a ring but Rendon is not the type of guy the front office likes to give long offers to.
(They've already talked about moving Turner elsewhere so third base is open as well)
They'd like Bryant as a two year rental and the Cubs would love to have some potential top of the rotation talent.

I can see the Dodgers possibly going to this. They have been winning their division since 2014 and have no World Series titles to show for it. Might just catch them at a desperate moment. It would hurt the line up, but it might be necessary.

 

[knoxville7]

Strasburg is not going to opt out. He likes DC and signed a below-market deal to stay there instead of hitting FA when he had the chance.

Sources: Strasburg opts out of Nationals contract

World Series MVP Stephen Strasburg has opted out of the remaining four years, $100 million remaining on his deal with the Nationals and will test the free-agent market, according to sources.

global.espn.com

Aged well

 

[SilenceS]

Cubs picked up Quintana option. Declined Hollands. They still need to pick up Rizzo's.

Looks like they will non tender Russell who would cost in the mid 4 million range.

Almora could be on the cutting block, but his number may be low enough to keep and see if you can trade according to Cubs website.

Darvish opt in which was no surprise. 4 years 81 million left.

Strop, Kintzler and Cishek filed for FA.

 

[CSF77]

Cubs picked up Quintana option. Declined Hollands. They still need to pick up Rizzo's.

Looks like they will non tender Russell who would cost in the mid 4 million range.

Almora could be on the cutting block, but his number may be low enough to keep and see if you can trade according to Cubs website.

Darvish opt in which was no surprise. 4 years 81 million left.

Strop, Kintzler and Cishek filed for FA.

Cubs den feels that Caratini will take over as the starting catcher and they trade Contreras.