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A huge amount of back and forth about a name of a football team that was changed because some people felt it to be derogatory.

I wonder why so many are spending so much energy defending the term for a team not in Chicago.

Bear Down!
 

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Sir you were wrong and you know it. You cant get 32% conservatives if it was 69% trans nor would it have survived peer review if that were the case.

Again where is the data for WAPO?

NAGA is one Native American group that supports the name. It was only founded in 2017 and its Native American membership is 75k. It also has far right ties to groups like Patriots Prayer.

Here are the Native American organizations that oppose the name including the Cherokees whom you profess to be a member of. They represent millions of Native Americans.

In its amicus brief filed in the case, the NCAI states that the combined enrollment of its member tribes in 2013 was 1.2 million individuals.[98]

Many tribal councils have passed resolutions or issued statements regarding their opposition to the name of the Washington Redskins, including the Cherokee and Comanche Nations of Oklahoma, the Inter Tribal Council of Arizona,[99] the Inter-Tribal Council of the Five Civilized Tribes,[100][101] the Oneida Indian Nation (New York),[102] the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe (North Dakota) and the United South and Eastern Tribes (USET).[103] In April 2014, Navajo Nation Council voted in favor of a statement opposing the name of the Washington team, as well as other disparaging references to American Indians by other professional sports franchises.[104] Other Native American groups advocating change include: the Native American Bar Association of DC,[105] the National Caucus of Native American State Legislators,[106] and the Society of American Indian Government Employees.
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But hey you found one obscure Native American organization with 75k members that support your position and ignored Native American groups that represent millions of Native Americans. LMFAO!.
I didnt have a position other then me making a joke.. did you already forget that? I have moved onto making fun of your vortex, and unfortunately for you, you didnt base your vortex on all of the above, you based it on a "scientific" study that was politically motivated and they manipulated the data and is a garbage study, unfortunately you had the chance to just say "yeah that poll has sketchy data" and then looked into other sources like above came back with them and posted that you stand by your belief and all this other sources back them up and it would of ended 15 posts ago. Because again Remy this was all based on a Joke post that I dont care about.

But your vortex doesnt allow you to act rationally, your vortex doesnt care how stupid it makes you look. So your vortex doesnt allow you to say "yeah the data looks sketchy" like a normal human would. Instead you are forced to attempt to defend something you know is wrong, you are still doing it.. you are attempting to show that its impossible to get 32% conservatives with 69% trans which is factually not true.

1021 participants,
700 in the woman/trans category = 68.56% rounded up to 69%
699 trans (1 woman removed) = 68.46% still rounded up to 69%
321 men = 31.43% rounded down to 31%
you need a total of 1 "trans" person to be "slightly conservative" to bring the total up to 323
323 men/women +1 conservative trans = 31.63% rounded up to 32% conservatives

(20-30% of the LGBTQ+ vote republican, so dont try and argue that it cant happen)

Another Vortex failure.. And thats basing this on them being honest with the breakdown % which they have shown to not be trustworthy and we should completely ignore what they have shown.

I told you 10 posts ago to just let this one go, its a non winner for you.. fight your vortex, you dont even technically have to change your position, you get to still feel the same way and have legitimate backing to your position. I dont care about your position, im just making fun of your vortex.
 
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I didnt have a position other then me making a joke.. did you already forget that? I have moved onto making fun of your vortex, and unfortunately for you, you didnt base your vortex on all of the above, you based it on a "scientific" study that was politically motivated and they manipulated the data and is a garbage study, unfortunately you had the chance to just say "yeah that poll has sketchy data" and then looked into other sources like above came back with them and posted that you stand by your belief and all this other sources back them up and it would of ended 15 posts ago. Because again Remy this was all based on a Joke post that I dont care about.

But your vortex doesnt allow you to act rationally, your vortex doesnt care how stupid it makes you look. So your vortex doesnt allow you to say "yeah the data looks sketchy" like a normal human would. Instead you are forced to attempt to defend something you know is wrong, you are still doing it.. you are attempting to show that its impossible to get 32% conservatives with 69% trans which is factually not true.

1021 participants,
700 in the woman/trans category = 68.56% rounded up to 69%
699 trans (1 woman removed) = 68.46% still rounded up to 69%
321 men = 31.43% rounded down to 31%
you need a total of 1 "trans" person to be "slightly conservative" to bring the total up to 323
323 men/women +1 conservative trans = 31.63% rounded up to 32% conservatives

(20-30% of the LGBTQ+ vote republican, so dont try and argue that it cant happen)

Another Vortex failure.. And thats basing this on them being honest with the breakdown % which they have shown to not be trustworthy and we should completely ignore what they have shown.

I told you 10 posts ago to just let this one go, its a non winner for you.. fight your vortex, you dont even technically have to change your position, you get to still fell the same way and have legitimate backing to your position. I dont care about your position, im just making fun of your vortex.

Lol this is laughable. You stupidly claimed 69% were trans and now trying to make up numbers to support your argument. All while ignoring WaPo provided no data. 32% were conservative sir and the study was subject to peer review.

You then tried to rely on a group with 75k members and then when I point out groups representing millions of Native Americans oppose the name now you want to ignore that. You brought up NAGA sir. Sorry that NCAI represents 16 times as many Native Americans as NAGA.
 

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Lol this is laughable. You stupidly claimed 69% were trans and now trying to make up numbers to support your argument. All while ignoring WaPo provided no data. 32% were conservative sir and the study was subject to peer review.

You then tried to rely on a group with 75k members and then when I point out groups representing millions of Native Americans oppose the name now you want to ignore that. You brought up NAGA sir. Sorry that NCAI represents 16 times as many Native Americans as NAGA.
I didnt claim 69% was trans it was YOUR study that provided the data to show that, but you are correct it is laughable.. THATS THE POINT
you based your vortex on a laughable study.

I didnt rely on a 75k members to do anything other then poke fun of your vortex..

remember this was my official stance on the matter..

"They would find it very offensive if you did that.. not the "Redskins" part but the "What up" part" this was a joke.. simple as that, everything else I have done with you was to poke fun at your vortex, which has been ridiculously easy when you base your whole vortex onto such a joke of a study..

Do you want to let this one go? football starts in 10 min and the is a non winner for you, or do you want to attempt to explain why this "peer reviewed" study grouped trans and cis women together in the same category?
 

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I didnt claim 69% was trans it was YOUR study that provided the data to show that, but you are correct it is laughable.. THATS THE POINT
you based your vortex on a laughable study.

I didnt rely on a 75k members to do anything other then poke fun of your vortex..

remember this was my official stance on the matter..

"They would find it very offensive if you did that.. not the "Redskins" part but the "What up" part" this was a joke.. simple as that, everything else I have done with you was to poke fun at your vortex, which has been ridiculously easy when you base your whole vortex onto such a joke of a study..

Do you want to let this one go? football starts in 10 min and the is a non winner for you, or do you want to attempt to explain why this "peer reviewed" study grouped trans and cis women together in the same category?

Yes you apparently didnt know what Cisgender Women meant and thought 69% of the study was trans. You were wrong and now trying to make up stuff to cover up.

You brought up NAGA sir and said I was ignoring them. Why are you ignoring NCAI despite them having 16 times more members? You keep running when your arguments prove flawed.
 

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Yes you apparently didnt know what Cisgender Women meant and thought 69% of the study was trans. You were wrong and now trying to make up stuff to cover up.

You brought up NAGA sir and said I was ignoring them. Why are you ignoring NCAI despite them having 16 times more members? You keep running when your arguments prove flawed.
cis gender is a real women, and i showed how you can mathematically get 69% trans. Tell me exactly how many of the study was cis women and how many was trans. I will wait for your answer.

I didnt make a stand on the redskins name debate so the NCAI has nothing to do with my joke post or me poking fun at your vortex about a flawed study.
 

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cis gender is a real women, and i showed how you can mathematically get 69% trans. Tell me exactly how many of the study was cis women and how many was trans. I will wait for your answer.

I didnt make a stand on the redskins name debate so the NCAI has nothing to do with my joke post or me poking fun at your vortex about a flawed study.

That was not your claim. Your claim was 69% were trans because you didnt what a cis woman was.

why are you ignoring what the NAGA an actual Native American group is saying on the matter?

You asked about NAGA sir and why I was ignoring what they are saying. The NCAI represents 16 times more Native Americans and oppose the name. Dont run from your argument now.
 
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