OT: Justin Fields Signs With NY Jets, Darnold/Seahawks, Stafford/Rams, Geno Smith/Raiders, Carr/Saints

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BNB said:
The moves the Vikings are making already tell us they're planning on moving forward with JJ. They won't even have enough money for Aaron most likely.

But is that really hard to imagine? We just saw Love sit for 3 years despite being drafted in the 1st round, and again, after sitting one year due to injury, Ian Rappaport reported last week that the Vikings were trying to figure out a way to keep Darnold. If they did, obviously that means JJ would have sat for at least another year, which the Vikings were open to.
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Signing Darnold could have been also an attempt to hold onto him to fetch something in the trade market later.

I watched some Steelers stuff and they're saying 2/$90M which is just insane to me. If the Vikings are out it's clearly because of money.
 
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Les Grossman said:
Also yeah, MIN wanted to keep Darnold but is pretty evident they didn’t want to pay him to be a starting QB… you to know.. to start
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They literally almost tagged him for 40 million. You think they would have done that for him to sit on the bench? No, it would have been to start.

When the conversations instead turned to a shorter term deal, that made no sense for Darnold, since he would get something more long term in free agency. Why would he sign a 1 or 2 year deal in MIN when he could get 3 years and 55 guaranteed in SEA?
 
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Moses Moreno said:
Signing Darnold could have been also an attempt to hold onto him to fetch something in the trade market later.

I watched some Steelers stuff and they're saying 2/$90M which is just insane to me. If the Vikings are out it's clearly because of money.
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I think they definitely didn't bring back Darnold because it financially didn't make sense. And if Rodgers wants 45 a year, then it definitely won't happen in MIN for the same reasons.

If the Vikings really wanted to keep Darnold just to trade him, they would have had to tag him since he has the right to decline any other contract offer. The fact that the Vikings continued to negotiate with Darnold after declining to tag him shows that they were interested in having him on the team... they just couldn't agree on the numbers/length of contract most likely.
 
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BNB said:
They literally almost tagged him for 40 million. You think they would have done that for him to sit on the bench? No, it would have been to start.

When the conversations instead turned to a shorter term deal, that made no sense for Darnold, since he would get something more long term in free agency. Why would he sign a 1 or 2 year deal in MIN when he could get 3 years and 55 guaranteed in SEA?
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Do people not understand the “literally” this day in age?

They LITERALLY did not tag him. Sure they thought about it, but that was probably for a tag and trade scenario. Damn dude…
 
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TL1961 said:
What's his leverage?
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If Rodgers doesn't sign with them - they're insanely desperate and Wilson can go elsewhere.

They could go get Mason Rudolph again and maybe trade for Milton but it could absolutely blow up in their face and they could be without a QB.
 
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Les Grossman said:
Do people not understand the “literally” this day in age?

They LITERALLY did not tag him. Sure they thought about it, but that was probably for a tag and trade scenario. Damn dude…
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They continued to talk with him even after they declined to tag him. Damn dude...
"According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, though Darnold was officially not tagged, the team and Darnold "will continue to work towards a deal that is best for both sides." The team could still sign Darnold to an extension before free agency begins on March 12."

They wanted him in at lower than the 40 million dollar tag. But again, why would Darnold sign a 1 or 2 year deal with the Vikings knowing that they will eventually move on to JJ when he can go to Seattle and be the long term starter?
 
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BNB said:
They continued to talk with him even after they declined to tag him. Damn dude...
"According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, though Darnold was officially not tagged, the team and Darnold "will continue to work towards a deal that is best for both sides." The team could still sign Darnold to an extension before free agency begins on March 12."

They wanted him in at lower than the 40 million dollar tag. But again, why would Darnold sign a 1 or 2 year deal with the Vikings knowing that they will eventually move on to JJ when he can go to Seattle and be the long term starter?
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Wow, good job finding one of the likely hundreds of articles that give their opinion on the matter. Here’s another:

“For years, Minnesota’s brass has wanted to build a roster around a rookie quarterback contract. The Vikings drafted J.J. McCarthy last year with the No. 10 pick. He remains the organization’s future even after tearing his meniscus last preseason. Re-signing Darnold would have complicated the runway to McCarthy.

Had Darnold had a smaller market, the Vikings would have been in a tricky position. Bringing back Darnold on a lesser deal might have made sense, but it would have raised complications. Darnold winning a competition versus McCarthy would have spurred questions about McCarthy, and McCarthy winning might have placed Darnold in an interesting spot.”

This is what it comes down to. Anyway I’m done with this obviously argument. You aren’t even remy and I’m not getting into a vortex with you lol
 

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Les Grossman said:
Lmao if you’re thinking about retirement, you should retire.
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Rodgers needs attention like people need oxygen. He needs people talking about him, speculating, begging him to come play for the team they root for. He's narcissistic and if he ever does retire, it will be at the very end of a long offseason so the talk can go on.
 

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Moses Moreno said:
If Rodgers doesn't sign with them - they're insanely desperate and Wilson can go elsewhere.

They could go get Mason Rudolph again and maybe trade for Milton but it could absolutely blow up in their face and they could be without a QB.
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Where is elsewhere? The music stopped. The chairs are filled.

It's NYG and Pittsburgh. If Rodgers doesn't go to Pitt, he'll be in NY. That leaves one chair for Russ, and he's not naming his salary.
 
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Where is elsewhere? The music stopped. The chairs are filled.

It's NYG and Pittsburgh. If Rodgers doesn't go to Pitt, he'll be in NY. That leaves one chair for Russ, and he's not naming his salary.
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Tennessee
 
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Les Grossman said:
Wow, good job finding one of the likely hundreds of articles that give their opinion on the matter. Here’s another:

“For years, Minnesota’s brass has wanted to build a roster around a rookie quarterback contract. The Vikings drafted J.J. McCarthy last year with the No. 10 pick. He remains the organization’s future even after tearing his meniscus last preseason. Re-signing Darnold would have complicated the runway to McCarthy.

Had Darnold had a smaller market, the Vikings would have been in a tricky position. Bringing back Darnold on a lesser deal might have made sense, but it would have raised complications. Darnold winning a competition versus McCarthy would have spurred questions about McCarthy, and McCarthy winning might have placed Darnold in an interesting spot.”

This is what it comes down to. Anyway I’m done with this obviously argument. You aren’t even remy and I’m not getting into a vortex with you lol
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That wasn't an opinion I posted, it was a report by a respected insider. Do you not know the difference?

I never realized you were this dense. Noted for the future!
 
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Les Grossman said:
Not gonna happen. And I was referring to “seat warming” as in the comment about JJ not being ready to START the season. Rodgers is not coming to a team under that premise.

Barring medical concerns, I’d bet my mortgage that MIN wants to and will push to see JJ start this season.

Imagine having your 1st round QB on the bench for half of his rookie contract. LMFAO.
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They've sure been building it up here. There was talk about the letting Jones sign the contract with Indy, but no mention of Rodgers
 
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What's next for QB Rodgers, Jets?​

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  • It’s Aaron Rodgers Day. The Jets are expected to release him when the league year begins at 4 p.m. They will designate him as one of their two post-June 1 cuts, allowing them to spread the cap hit over two years.
  • With one door closing, will another open? Rodgers could pick his next team today. Will it be the Giants or Steelers? The Giants remain hopeful, I’m told, but my money is on the Steelers. -- Rich Cimini, Jets reporter
 
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