OT: Lions coaching staff *no bears talk allowed* *srs responses only*

[hyatt151]

So what you're ssaying is there is a good chance the lions new OC/DC's can fail?

of course there's a chance, but I don't think he will, got it numbnuts?

 

[Nelly]

Talent only gets you so far if your coaching sucks.

There have been plenty of examples of this in every sport

Like the 2024 Bears?

 

[msadows]

of course there's a chance, but I don't think he will, got it numbnuts?

I think its a lot more likely that the lions new OC/DC fall flat on their face than aaron glenn or ben johnson

 

[Nelly]

I think its a lot more likely that the lions new OC/DC fall flat on their face than aaron glenn or ben johnson

To be fair, both went to franchises that have done a whole lot of failing lately, but we shall see.

 

[msadows]

To be fair, both went to franchises that have done a whole lot of failing lately, but we shall see.

To be fair, they both came from historically the worst franchise in all of pro sports, so the bar is pretty low.

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

less weapons, but the nearly same OL with Zeitler being the only difference, and Jamal Williams was better than any of the bears running backs, and they also had St Brown, Hockenson, Chark, Raymond and Reynolds, so while not as good as the bears it was still a solid unit, so all you you have to do is get a decent running back a better TE, and replace 3 spots on your OL with 3 all pros and your good to go

Jamal Williams was a product of Johnson’s system and Lions OL. He was not a better back than Monty. Obviously St Brown is the top dog in that group but everyone else you listed did nothing that year. Bears really only need to improve their OL. Everything else they will be fine with. Although another solid RB would be nice.

 

[msadows]

Jamal Williams was a product of Johnson’s system and Lions OL. He was not a better back than Monty. Obviously St Brown is the top dog in that group but everyone else you listed did nothing that year. Bears really only need to improve their OL. Everything else they will be fine with. Although another solid RB would be nice.

Penis sewage was also terrible as a rookie and ragnow missed all the games that ben johnson called plays

Kinda crazy i know more about the lions than a "real" lions fan. maybe he has dementia and forgot?

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

Penis sewage was also terrible as a rookie and ragnow missed all the games that ben johnson called plays

Kinda crazy i know more about the lions than a "real" lions fan. maybe he has dementia and forgot?

True. I forgot about Ragow being injured. I don’t disagree and think the Bears could use an upgrade at RB but it’s not needed to have a successful offense. Kmet is just fine at TE. He will look much better in Johnson’s system. Obviously OL needs to be improved. Reality is the Bears are at least 2 solid OL from the chance at having a really good offense. Lions fans don’t want to admit that.

 

[hyatt151]

Jamal Williams was a product of Johnson’s system and Lions OL. He was not a better back than Monty. Obviously St Brown is the top dog in that group but everyone else you listed did nothing that year. Bears really only need to improve their OL. Everything else they will be fine with. Although another solid RB would be nice.

so Sewel and Hockenson did nothing, spare me your bullshit

 

[bears51/40]

yeah they did, but Gibbs, St Brown, Williams, Sewell, and Hutchinson are still in Detroit, not to mention Branch, Joseph and Montgomery

Talented players but I notice you did not mention Goff. Losing Johnson will hurt Goff more than any other offensive player on your team. Will Goff continue to put up regular season MVP type numbers with Morton or will he revert back to his 2021 numbers. Pre Johnson 3,245 yds with 19 td's. After Johnson was named OC 4,438 yds 29 td's.

Johnson made Goff a better QB.......................Johnson will make Williams a better QB.

Lions lose their OC and DC will take a step or two back much like the Eagles with all their talent did in 2023.

 

[SugarWalls]

Talented players but I notice you did not mention Goff. Losing Johnson will hurt Goff more than any other offensive player on your team. Will Goff continue to put up regular season MVP type numbers with Morton or will he revert back to his 2021 numbers. Pre Johnson 3,245 yds with 19 td's. After Johnson was named OC 4,438 yds 29 td's.

Johnson made Goff a better QB.......................Johnson will make Williams a better QB.

Lions lose their OC and DC will take a step or two back much like the Eagles with all their talent did in 2023.

From what Ben describes he sat down with Goff and they developed the offense together based on what Goff liked and what worked for him.

There’s no way the next coach is going to have that ability as well as being able to continually innovate on the existing offense.

 

[bears51/40]

so Sewel and Hockenson did nothing, spare me your bullshit

You do know that Hockenson only had 26 receptions for 395 yds for the lions in 2022 or that Sewell's worst year as a pro was his rookie year in
2022.................Right?

 

[hyatt151]

You do know that Hockenson only had 26 receptions for 395 yds for the lions in 2022 or that Sewell's worst year as a pro was his rookie year in
2022.................Right?

Hockenson only played 10 games for the lions in 2022 and 26 for 395 is a 15.2 average per reception is pretty damn good, rookie or not Sewell still had a quality year

 

[hyatt151]

you seem to forget that Campbell either hired or kept on staff for promotion, Johnson and Glenn, and so far I'm happy with the replacements he has chosen, and most important the team is intact, so while you may have poached a couple of our coaches, your team still sucks, and not a lot good old Ben can do about that

Morton was a good hire

 

[bears51/40]

Hockenson only played 10 games for the lions in 2022 and 26 for 395 is a 15.2 average per reception is pretty damn good, rookie or not Sewell still had a quality year

Actually, I believe Hock played seven games for the lions that year before he was traded. Disagree on Sewell.

 

[bears51/40]

Morton was a good hire

Johnson>>>>>>>>>>>over Morton as a play caller. Johnson has been the best play caller in the league the last three years.

Just saying!

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

so Sewel and Hockenson did nothing, spare me your bullshit

Sewel did not have a good rookie year. Hockenson in 7games with the Lions had 26 catches for 395 yards and 3 TDs. He will probably go to the HOF with that type of performance.

 

[Rise]

David Shaw to the Lions as passing game coordinator. Gotta think he is motivated after the Bears interviewed him twice then offered him nothing.

This guy is just a really good football coach. I wanted him here. Big W for the Lions.

 

[Les Grossman]

David Shaw to the Lions as passing game coordinator. Gotta think he is motivated after the Bears interviewed him twice then offered him nothing.

This guy is just a really good football coach. I wanted him here. Big W for the Lions.

Hmmm that must mean that Engstrand is gone for DET then?

 

[Rise]

Hmmm that must mean that Engstrand is gone for DET then?

OC for the Jets. It really seems like these 4 guys are all working together on these staffs and putting their coaches in the best places for them. Then let the best team win.