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Schools have been raking in literally millions of dollars for years off of the backs of athletes and the instant there is a single hard time that comes from the NIL deals this is suddenly "ruining" the sport lmao yeah okay
Nobody is saying NIL is ruining the sport solely because of this situation. Are you serious?

NIL is causing college players to transfer every year. There are players who play for 4 colleges in their careers, and the number of players in the transfer portal this year is up massively over previous years.

Coaches can't build a program. Fans root for kids they didn't know a season before, and watch them leave at season's end.

It's a mess. Everybody seems to agree. Due to this guy? Hardly!
 

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Still so sure about that?! Word on the street is the schools interested are waiting him out till he’s willing to play for around a million bucks. Which, I believe is roughly 40% of what he was going to make this year at Tennessee
Could be. We won't know until we know. I'm not looking it up as it isn't important to me but I thought someone posted it was $4m that he wanted and was currently getting about 1/2 that.
On an adjacent topic, I kinda hate the current system where some (amateur) guys probably get maybe a scholarship for the same risk and effort. I don't mind them getting paid or even a sliding scale for position (though I'd prefer it not be that way) but if this is the way, **** making them wait for the pros. Make what you make or declare and see where you're drafted.

Right now, you can buy an edge to the playoffs and that's just wrong for amateur sports.
 
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Nobody is saying NIL is ruining the sport solely because of this situation. Are you serious?

NIL is causing college players to transfer every year. There are players who play for 4 colleges in their careers, and the number of players in the transfer portal this year is up massively over previous years.

Coaches can't build a program. Fans root for kids they didn't know a season before, and watch them leave at season's end.

It's a mess. Everybody seems to agree. Due to this guy? Hardly!
Yes it was sooooooooooo much better when teams like alabama could just recruit the absolute best players year after year after year after year after year so these 'college athletes' that don't give a damn about school could pretend to attend classes and get their free ride while the NCAA literally made billions of dollars off of their backs lmao.

College football from roughly 2000 to 2010's was a trash product and the NIL deals are at least attempting to bring some form of parity which imo has helped make the sport more entertaining for 1, but also generally more fair. Not that it has ever been fair and it still isn't fair, but it is far better than it was the previous decade before NIL.

If you want to say the transfer portal is ruining coaches ability to create good teams or continuity please provide me some level of data that suggests this to be true.

Edit: you also failed to mention kids that might not get a chance to play for their current team will transfer to a team where they could play. Should they be forced to sit or lose a year of eligibility to stay on their current team? Is this really a good system that was in place? Was it fair to the athletes in anyway shape or form?
 

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Yes it was sooooooooooo much better when teams like alabama could just recruit the absolute best players year after year after year after year after year so these 'college athletes' that don't give a damn about school could pretend to attend classes and get their free ride while the NCAA literally made billions of dollars off of their backs lmao.

College football from roughly 2000 to 2010's was a trash product and the NIL deals are at least attempting to bring some form of parity which imo has helped make the sport more entertaining for 1, but also generally more fair. Not that it has ever been fair and it still isn't fair, but it is far better than it was the previous decade before NIL.

If you want to say the transfer portal is ruining coaches ability to create good teams or continuity please provide me some level of data that suggests this to be true.

Edit: you also failed to mention kids that might not get a chance to play for their current team will transfer to a team where they could play. Should they be forced to sit or lose a year of eligibility to stay on their current team? Is this really a good system that was in place? Was it fair to the athletes in anyway shape or form?
If you believe kids are transferring because they weren't getting playing time, you're living in the 90's.
 

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If you believe kids are transferring because they weren't getting playing time, you're living in the 90's.
You didn’t address basically any of the points I brought up at all lmao
 

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Could be. We won't know until we know. I'm not looking it up as it isn't important to me but I thought someone posted it was $4m that he wanted and was currently getting about 1/2 that.
On an adjacent topic, I kinda hate the current system where some (amateur) guys probably get maybe a scholarship for the same risk and effort. I don't mind them getting paid or even a sliding scale for position (though I'd prefer it not be that way) but if this is the way, **** making them wait for the pros. Make what you make or declare and see where you're drafted.

Right now, you can buy an edge to the playoffs and that's just wrong for amateur sports.
Right, he was getting 2.5 mil and wanted 4 mil

Now, reports are he will likely settle for around 1 mil

That’s a massive L to take if the reports are accurate. He ain’t getting the bag he thought he would
 

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Right, he was getting 2.5 mil and wanted 4 mil

Now, reports are he will likely settle for around 1 mil

That’s a massive L to take if the reports are accurate. He ain’t getting the bag he thought he would
If that becomes the case, serves him right but I suspect he won't lose money.
 

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If that becomes the case, serves him right but I suspect he won't lose money.


What do you base this notion that you think he won’t lose any money from??
 

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What do you base this notion that you think he won’t lose any money from??
If Tulane backed out, what does that tell you lol. His Dad just could be the linchpin of one of the greatest contract f ups of all time
 

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What do you base this notion that you think he won’t lose any money from??
Am I allowed a hunch or can I not have an opinion? That's all those reports are as well. I get you're a TN fan but until he signs somewhere, no one knows what he'll get. My OPINION is that there's a lot of schools and some jerk Athletic Director/HC will cave for perceived talent. We hear about college players that continued to play in college with all kinds of accusations. Money should be a lessor hurdle. I could be wrong. I actually hope so. BFD.
 
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Am I allowed a hunch or can I not have an opinion. That's all those reports are as well. I get you're a TN fan but until he signs somewhere, no one knows what he'll get. My OPINION is that there's a lot of schools and some jerk Athletic Director/HC will cave for perceived talent. We hear about college players that continued to play in college with all kinds of accusations. Money should be a lessor hurdle. I could be wrong. I actually hope so. BFD.
Lmao someone is sensitive this morning!

All I asked is why you have this “hunch?” Yes, you can certainly have your “feeling,” but just know that it is backed up by nothing. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one

Sorry that I like to base my “hunches” in facts not nothing
 

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Lmao someone is sensitive this morning!

All I asked is why you have this “hunch?” Yes, you can certainly have your “feeling,” but just know that it is backed up by nothing

Sorry that I like to base my “hunches” in facts not nothing

Just cuz you have an opinion doesn
You're the one that's been pursuing me on this and basically asked the same question a few times so maybe I'm not the one being sensitive about my local team.
 

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You're the one that's been pursuing me on this and basically asked the same question a few times so maybe I'm not the one being sensitive about my local team.
lol ahhh yes, the classic… “well, you keep responding to my posts!” As if that isn’t what a message board is for?!

Also, my local team came out looking like alphas in all of this, so not sure why you’d think I’d be sensitive about it?

Sorry for asking you why you feel the way you do despite all the evidence pointing otherwise

You can go back to your safe space now
 

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lol ahhh yes, the classic… “well, you keep responding to my posts!” As if that isn’t what a message board is for?!

Sorry for asking you why you feel the way you do despite all the evidence pointing otherwise

You can go back to your safe space now
Go find someone else for one of your dogged slap fights. I've moved on.
 

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Go find someone else for one of your dogged slap fights. I've moved on.
lol all I did was ask you why you felt the way you did and asked you to elaborate

If that is a “dogged slap fight” to you then maybe message boards aren’t for you
 

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If you believe kids are transferring because they weren't getting playing time, you're living in the 90's.
Some clearly are. You are confusing the stars with everyday guys that transfer for better opportunities to start and play.
 

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Take with a grain of salt.
 

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Take with a grain of salt.
Yeah I saw some UT posters saying this last week. This would destroy the sport if players start intentionally sabotaging playoff games for money. I understand sitting out or not giving a shit about pointless bowl games but this would be just a step above the Black Sox scandal.
 

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Take with a grain of salt.
While I certainly don’t think anyone was throwing the game, it doesn’t surprise me that some guys may have been trying to leverage their situation into more $$ and may have contributed to being less focused than they should have been on the task at hand
 

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While I certainly don’t think anyone was throwing the game, it doesn’t surprise me that some guys may have been trying to leverage their situation into more $$ and may have contributed to being less focused than they should have been on the task at hand
Yeah I suspect your theory is closer to the truth than actively throwing games.
 

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