OT: Tennessee QB out

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So it’s coming out that he threatened to sit out the playoff game too. That’s very “Ultimate Warrior-like” of him when the UW threatened to skip out on a PPV in which he headlined.
 

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Don't think a kid should decide his future on what makes fans happy.

UNC Basketball has suffered greatly during the NIL. Hell our highest recruit in years entered the transfer portal after his freshmen year last week. I wont cry about it because that is his right. UNC needs to adapt or die.
He reneged on an agreement last minute.

Should he worry about the fans? Maybe not, but its supporters of the program that are paying NIL.

But bottom line, he backed out of his agreement when he thought he had the team over the barrel and they told him to pound sand.

And you defend him.
 

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So, if it is "well within" his rights to demand more money and leave, shouldn't it be well within a university rights to nullify an NIL agreement if a college athlete underperforms?

Seems like the knife should cut both ways.................
 

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Guys, the thing with @remydat is that if yall were in here saying how Nico was well within his rights and opportunities…then Remy would be on here saying how disgusting the lack of loyalty is

He will always take the opposite position of what is popular
 

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The NCAA and schools agreed to a spring transfer portal which he took advantage of. The whole point of a spring transfer portal is to give players a chance to transfer after spring practice if the opportunities at their current schools are not to their liking. So the timing is perfectly normal and dictated by the NCAA. He is using it as intended although technically he cant enter the portal officially until Wednesday.
I'm aware. He chose to do this before Tennessee's spring practice.
 

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I guess you missed the endless debates and criticism over the past few weeks about how shitty the timing is and how it needs to be changed.
That is your personal opinion. The facts are the timing is known to everyone and is dictated by the NCAA to address this very issue.

Nico like all players has a right to assess his status after spring practice and make a decision as to whether to stay or not. That is why the spring transfer period exists and it ends April 25 so schools still have 4 months before the season starts.
 

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He reneged on an agreement last minute.

Should he worry about the fans? Maybe not, but its supporters of the program that are paying NIL.

But bottom line, he backed out of his agreement when he thought he had the team over the barrel and they told him to pound sand.

And you defend him.
The day before the winter portal ended in January, Iamaleava's representatives asked for his deal to increase to the $4 million range, but Tennessee didn't redo it.

"We weren't going to flinch this time either," a source told ESPN.


It isnt last minute. The season is 4 months away and they knew he was unhappy since January. So they had and have ample time to address. If they sat on their asses since Jan and did nothing to prepare that is on them.

If he breached a contract then the school would have remedies under said contract and are free to seek enforcement of those remedies.
 
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So, if it is "well within" his rights to demand more money and leave, shouldn't it be well within a university rights to nullify an NIL agreement if a college athlete underperforms?

Seems like the knife should cut both ways.................
No because the NIL deal isnt with the University as that is currently illegal. The NIL is with a 3rd party. It should be noted that NCAA rules prohibit NIL deals from being linked to enrollment at a given school. So technically if Nico was in a state that did not have separate NIL laws allowing this, his NIL deal would remain even if he left Tennessee.

So to answer your question if a college athlete underperforms the 3rd party can end the NIL arrangement only if the contract or state law allows it. Personally I would say they should be able to end it but gotta take that up with the NCAA and states who tend to favor the student athlete over the school making billions and who can afford high priced lawyers.
 
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Schools have been raking in literally millions of dollars for years off of the backs of athletes and the instant there is a single hard time that comes from the NIL deals this is suddenly "ruining" the sport lmao yeah okay
 

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Schools have been raking in literally millions of dollars for years off of the backs of athletes and the instant there is a single hard time that comes from the NIL deals this is suddenly "ruining" the sport lmao yeah okay
Billions sir. College football is a billion dollar affair. Several college football teams make more profit than the lowest earning NFL teams.
 

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Schools have been raking in literally millions of dollars for years off of the backs of athletes and the instant there is a single hard time that comes from the NIL deals this is suddenly "ruining" the sport lmao yeah okay
LMAO, this isn't about whether or not an athlete should be entitled to get paid, it is about the current mess the NIL is.
 

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No because the NIL deal isnt with the University as that is currently illegal. The NIL is with a 3rd party. It should be noted that NCAA rules prohibit NIL deals from being linked to enrollment at a given school. So technically if Nico was in a state that did not have separate NIL laws allowing this, his NIL deal would remain even if he left Tennessee.

So to answer your question if a college athlete underperforms the 3rd party can end the NIL arrangement only if the contract or state law allows it. Personally I would say they should be able to end it but gotta take that up with the NCAA and states who tend to favor the student athlete over the school making billions and who can afford high priced lawyers.


Fair enough, let me revise my statement.

So, if it is "well within" his rights to demand more money and leave, shouldn't it be well within the boosters rights to nullify an NIL agreement if a college athlete underperforms?

Seems like the knife should cut both ways.................
 

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Fair enough, let me revise my statement.

So, if it is "well within" his rights to demand more money and leave, shouldn't it be well within the boosters rights to nullify an NIL agreement if a college athlete underperforms?

Seems like the knife should cut both ways.................
I answered you in my last paragraph.
 

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LMAO, this isn't about whether or not an athlete should be entitled to get paid, it is about the current mess the NIL is.
Fair enough, let me revise my statement.

So, if it is "well within" his rights to demand more money and leave, shouldn't it be well within the boosters rights to nullify an NIL agreement if a college athlete underperforms?

Seems like the knife should cut both ways.................

These statements in consecutive comments shows you clearly do not have an understanding of the issue.
 

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I answered you in my last paragraph.
So to answer your question if a college athlete underperforms the 3rd party can end the NIL arrangement only if the contract or state law allows it.

Well, assuming a contract does exist, then how can the student athlete be allowed to leave without punitive damages? I mean, I am assuming he is over 18, and thus any contract he signs is legally binding. Breaking said contract might not prevent him from entering the Portal, per NCAA rules, but most certainly there could be other damages that could be enforced.
 

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These statements in consecutive comments shows you clearly do not have an understanding of the issue.
I have a clear understanding of the issue, but at the heart of the matter I have no idea what agreement, or contract he did sign. I imagine there is quite a bit of variance from one contract/agreement to the next.
 

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So to answer your question if a college athlete underperforms the 3rd party can end the NIL arrangement only if the contract or state law allows it.

Well, assuming a contract does exist, then how can the student athlete be allowed to leave without punitive damages? I mean, I am assuming he is over 18, and thus any contract he signs is legally binding. Breaking said contract might not prevent him from entering the Portal, per NCAA rules, but most certainly there could be other damages that could be enforced.
Already addressed this.
If he breached a contract then the school would have remedies under said contract and are free to seek enforcement of those remedies.
 

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Exactly and this is simply Tenn. saving face. Guy will get his $ elsewhere and his draft stock will be judged by what he does there.

Kinda the point. It wasn't his play or missing a practice other than how it relates to wanting more $ that caused this. He likely won't lose $ and play somewhere this year. I don't like it when guys renege on deals either but it's college ball and there's plenty of underhanded dealings/recruiting going on. I don't understand these responses effectively saying what I already did without the vitriol. Dude got dumped due to $ and will find another gig with at least as much and likely more. I don't like it but, meh.

Still so sure about that?! Word on the street is the schools interested are waiting him out till he’s willing to play for around a million bucks. Which, I believe is roughly 40% of what he was going to make this year at Tennessee
 

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