OT: Top 100 NBA players

[houheffna]

No Wade = invalid list

You are a hypocrite man...NOW who goes out of there way to to have opinions (facts???) contrary to what others may think?

Just find it interesting that you think others can have "dumb opinions"...something that I have been saying since I have posted on this board.

 

[Cloud 9]

False. Top 4 lock.

I agree 100%. I also agree it's a stupid opinion to argue otherwise. I understand some people like to change up their lists a little bit to get away from the norm, but when you take Wade out of the top 3 or 4, You're credibility has to be in question. I fucking hate Wade with a passion, but I don't let that cloud my judgement of what a great player he is.

 

[The Bandit]

I agree 100%. I also agree it's a stupid opinion to argue otherwise. I understand some people like to change up their lists a little bit to get away from the norm, but when you take Wade out of the top 3 or 4, You're credibility has to be in question. I fucking hate Wade with a passion, but I don't let that cloud my judgement of what a great player he is.

I like Wade, not as much as when he was on his own with out LeBrick but I still like him, I hate Lebrick with a passion now, I hate the fact that he's even in my top 5 but you have to give credit where credit is due, now if this was playoffs lists Lebron wouldn't be on it

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

You are a hypocrite man...NOW who goes out of there way to to have opinions (facts???) contrary to what others may think?

Just find it interesting that you think others can have "dumb opinions"...something that I have been saying since I have posted on this board.

Fair enough but I'm done being Mr. Diplomat because I was the only one here who ever tried to be anyway.

 

[houheffna]

Fair enough but I'm done being Mr. Diplomat because I was the only one here who ever tried to be anyway.

Ok, long as you own up to it.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Yes. He is better than Derrick Rose, Dirk Nowitzki, Chris Paul, and (nowadays) even Kobe Bryant and fairly easily.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

You are a hypocrite man...NOW who goes out of there way to to have opinions (facts???) contrary to what others may think?

Just find it interesting that you think others can have "dumb opinions"...something that I have been saying since I have posted on this board.

seriously...you(rami) have said worse than d wade not being in the top 4

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

seriously...you(rami) have said worse than d wade not being in the top 4

Find me a couple of quotes then.

 

[houheffna]

Find me a couple of quotes then.

Griffin better than Nowitzki...
Duncan better than Love...
David West and Luis Scola better than Eric Gordon...

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Find me a couple of quotes then.

off the top of my head i know the whole idea of diaw and kirilenko more versatile than lebron

lebron losing speed BECAUSE of increased muscle mass(notice i'm not completely arguing against lebron being slower but because of increased muscle mass...ahhhh not really)

the whole oscar robertson stephon marbury comparison

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

off the top of my head i know the whole idea of diaw and kirilenko more versatile than lebron

lebron losing speed BECAUSE of increased muscle mass(notice i'm not completely arguing against lebron being slower because of increased muscle mass...ahhhh not really)

the whole oscar robertson stephon marbury comparison

If that's the best you have then it's not much. AK/Diaw thing was poorly phrased on my part. My point was that they were also versatile players that are better (i.e. AK's shot-blocking)/as good as LeBron in certain facets of the game. I've already said that the muscle mass thing was pure speculation on my part. However, it is possible to gain muscle mass in a way that slows you down. And Oscar dominated the ball just like Marbury and didn't have enough help as best players on their respective teams. That is why I compared the two- because in that regard, they were similar.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Griffin better than Nowitzki...
Duncan better than Love...
David West and Luis Scola better than Eric Gordon...

2011 Duncan and 2011 Love are extremely comparable players. I said that I'd give an All-star nod to Duncan halfway into the 2010-11 season because of the Spurs' dominant and Minnesota's terrible record and Duncan's clear advantages over Love in some categories (including defense and post-up scoring).

This season, Griffin has been better than Nowitzki because Nowitzki came in poor shape. But I have always said that the PF position is an extremely top heavy position and it is very interchangeable all across the board. Griffin is well on his way to becoming a better PF than Nowitzki ever was.

And find the quote where I said West and Scola > Eric Gordon.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

If that's the best you have then it's not much. I've already said that the muscle mass thing was pure speculation on my part. However, it is possible to gain muscle mass in a way that slows you down. And Oscar dominated the ball just like Marbury and didn't have enough help as best players on their respective teams. That is why I compared the two- because in that regard, they were similar.

i'm not going to get into it because thats not the point..you've already been refuted on these

i would say there are very logical arguments for wade not being in the top 4..

i find it very odd that you are so strong on a topic that regards a SUBJECTIVE listing of players,really

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

i'm not going to get into it because thats not the point..you've already been refuted on these

Cop-out.

i would say there are very logical arguments for wade not being in the top 4..

There's really not.

i find it very odd that you are so strong on a topic that regards a SUBJECTIVE listing of players,really

Saying Rose is better than Wade is pure idiocy/ignorance.

 

[Axl Rose]

rose is better than wade

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

rose is better than wade

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Cop-out.



There's really not.



Saying Rose is better than Wade is pure idiocy/ignorance.

lol whatever...you're incredibly thick skulled about this

wanna talk about pure ignorance lol

 

[Cloud 9]

Griffin better than Nowitzki...
Duncan better than Love...
David West and Luis Scola better than Eric Gordon...

I don't even care about what was said. I just wanna know how in the hell you guys got on the topic of comparing David West and Scola to Eric Gordon. :shrug:

 

[houheffna]

2011 Duncan and 2011 Love are extremely comparable players. I said that I'd give an All-star nod to Duncan halfway into the 2010-11 season because of the Spurs' dominant and Minnesota's terrible record and Duncan's clear advantages over Love in some categories (including defense and post-up scoring).

This season, Griffin has been better than Nowitzki because Nowitzki came in poor shape. But I have always said that the PF position is an extremely top heavy position and it is very interchangeable all across the board. Griffin is well on his way to becoming a better PF than Nowitzki ever was.

And find the quote where I said West and Scola > Eric Gordon.

That Duncan/Love argument gets lamer by the month. You even stated that Duncan was superior head to head against Love, and I pointed out that Love was averaging over 20 pts and 19rebs a game against the Spurs!

You said Griffin was better than Dirk LAST season, when Dirk was putting up MVP numbers. We are not talking about this season.

http://www.chicitysports.com/forum/...3-all-star-reserves-obtained-no-boozer-3.html

Its there in the second entry, when I call your list basketball Special person.

 

[houheffna]

I don't even care about what was said. I just wanna know how in the hell you guys got on the topic of comparing David West and Scola to Eric Gordon. :shrug:

If you don't care what was said...then how can your question be answered?