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Uman85

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How is Derrick Rose better than Dwyane Wade overall?

More explosive, better court vision, not to mention he's a better leader. Wade cowers to lebron on his own team. Wade is more clutch than lebron and Rose, I'll give him that, but true greatness comes in being a leader and taking control when need be. Rose has shown that time and again. Wade was terrific pre-lebron. The fact that he's taken a step back during many games with James hurts his rank to me.
 

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No.That is not a pretty good record if you keep in mind that we were playing with bad teams and we almost lost some of the games we won.And to tell you the truth.Some of the games the Bulls were playing without Rose I am trying to forget them.The Bulls were so terrible that you only say good thing we won lets forget this game and go on.Nothing more.And when Rose is in the court MAGIC...You have an team you want to watch again and again..
 
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This part is not true. If anything, it is vice versa.

Wade needs the ball in his hands in the 4th, not lebron. I'm not saying Rose is way better. He's marginally better at best, but if Wade can take control in the clutch like I know he can, he can surpass Rose in my rankings easily. Wade is top 6 and he's on the edge of my top 5.
 

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If you don't care what was said...then how can your question be answered?

Because I don't care about the actual argument of Eric Gordon vs Scola and West itself. I just wanted to know what led to that topic, seeing as how it is random as hell.
 

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Wade needs the ball in his hands in the 4th, not lebron. I'm not saying Rose is way better. He's marginally better at best, but if Wade can take control in the clutch like I know he can, he can surpass Rose in my rankings easily. Wade is top 6 and he's on the edge of my top 5.

You seem to be conveniently ignoring defense which is a huge advantage to Wade though.
 

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You seem to be conveniently ignoring defense which is a huge advantage to Wade though.

Not ignoring it at all. Wade has that edge by a pretty big margin. I just want to see the ball in his hands in crunch time. He shows me that and he's top 5 no question.
 

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You seem to be conveniently ignoring defense which is a huge advantage to Wade though.

Of course I don't ignore this.DRose's opponents suffer every time.I don't remember one single PG having a good game against DRose.I can't say the same for DWade.
 
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Totally agree. Though less talented, Wade is the undisputed leader on that team. Lebron follows him.

The 2011 NBA Finals proved that LeBron defers to Wade on offense. James is better overall but Wade is where they go to when in doubt.
 

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Wade is the undisputed leader but Lebron is the undisputed NBA MVP?

At least this Rose underrating thing starts getting entertaining.
 

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Wade is the undisputed leader but Lebron is the undisputed NBA MVP?

At least this Rose underrating thing starts getting entertaining.

When did I say LeBron or Wade was the MVP? Durant should be MVP. You refuse to admit the vast difference between Wade and Rose on defense.
 

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Marbury had decent help in Minnesota because of KG but KG was nowhere near what he was about 5 years later and still a teenager in MN. Who else did that team have - basically nobody.

Marbury had talent in Phoenix with Shawn Marion and also had Amare Stoudemire (very young and raw) but nothing that was going to contend for a title.

Marbury having better help as a Knick is an absolute joke. That team had raw offensive talent, terrible defensive players, and were incredibly selfish.

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There is no way else to put this:

You are a complete fucking failure and Special person.

Seriously.



Way to avoid answering anything about anyone Robertson had.

I didn't say or imply that Marbury was surrounded by All NBA talent but even young raw players like Amare, KG, Marion, Keith Van Horn(prime-ish), Kerry Kittles, Tom Gugliotta, Sam Cassell, young Kenyon Martin, Jamal Crawford, Allen Houston etc while not the Dream Team is far and away better than anything Robertson even had close to having in Cinci relative to and in context of the league talent at the time.....which of course you conveniently ignore because it blows up your entire thought process and initial argument.

Just keep being a clown and knowing nothing about the game.

Can't wait to hear your thoughts on Jack Twyman!
 
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When did I say LeBron or Wade was the MVP? Durant should be MVP. You refuse to admit the vast difference between Wade and Rose on defense.

It wasn't for you.No I don't refuse the difference.Rose is faster than light in both ends.
 

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Watching chosenone and Rami argue:

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Thechosenone made a claim that Derrick Rose was better than Dwyane Wade and I find that most ridiculous. Putting Wade out of the top 5 clearly stems from butthurtness over the man not coming to Chicago.

you are butthurt that people dont put wade in the top 5 or 4
 

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not really the point

still hypocritical

I'm one of the only posters in here that used to try to be all nice and polite to everybody. Don't really care about that anymore. If you're wrong, you're going to hear about it.
 

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