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Well, lets take a step back and look at the economics. We've already endured 2 years of disappointment. And people have become more and more accustomed to not going. If they decide to gut the payroll and try to be a supersized Florida Marlins by having this massive youth movement, the lack of enthusiasm from the fans may carry over to the beginning of next year.

2003 changed expectations. The fans expect to win and if they perceive that the efforts not there and theres no hope, theyve been less likely to keep going in recent years. And the Cubs tickets are the most in MLB. Cubs fans are going to start asking, "why am I paying top dollar to watch management turn this team into a supersized Florida Marlins."

Not spending brings a huge economic gamble.

I don't think it is right now. They still got a ton of fans this year, even if the 3 million number they thumped their chest about was inflated.

Remember there is a season ticket waiting list of over 100,000 people, who are just waiting for the chance to buy season tickets. Ownership can go cheap for a few years and burn through that list if they want.

Eventually you are right, they will have to spend money and make the team a winner, but for a few years here they can get away with going cheap and selling the "hope" of the young players.

It isn't an approach I agree with at all, but it seems like the way they want to go.
 

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I don't think it is right now. They still got a ton of fans this year, even if the 3 million number they thumped their chest about was inflated.

Remember there is a season ticket waiting list of over 100,000 people, who are just waiting for the chance to buy season tickets. Ownership can go cheap for a few years and burn through that list if they want.

Eventually you are right, they will have to spend money and make the team a winner, but for a few years here they can get away with going cheap and selling the "hope" of the young players.

It isn't an approach I agree with at all, but it seems like the way they want to go.

I disagree. But even if youre right, youre arguments theyre building that bridge but its not across the river yet. Why even build that bridge?

But again, I disagree. Theyve been pre-selling a lot of tickets the day they go on sale in February. It will be interesting to see how that unfolds after theyve set the direction theyre taking.

But again, its not just about inflated attendance because of pre-sales. Theres also lost revenue in concessions. Not only that but the Cubs are typically a huge road draw. I think that road teams typically get 13-17% of the gate.

Theres an impact. And its already two layers deep.
 

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Not having some form of an organization building plan is more of an economic gamble over spending on one of two players in a more than likely underachieving season.

I'd much rather them put a few extra million in player development and scouting.
 

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Not having some form of an organization building plan is more of an economic gamble over spending on one of two players in a more than likely underachieving season.

I'd much rather them put a few extra million in player development and scouting.

If I was the Cubs, I'd really get into prospects this way...
1.) Hire more region scouts
2.) Sign a PDC with some Korean Professional Baseball team and an independent league team in Japan (and maybe in Baseball Philippines, China Baseball League, and Chinese Professional Baseball League too).
3.) Enter a new team into the Venezuelan Summer League
4.) Affiliate with some Italian and Dutch teams (PDC's again)
5.) Start a baseball academy in India..

Spend about a billion dollars on Asians basically.
 

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If I was the Cubs, I'd really get into prospects this way...
1.) Hire more region scouts
2.) Sign a PDC with some Korean Professional Baseball team and an independent league team in Japan (and maybe in Baseball Philippines, China Baseball League, and Chinese Professional Baseball League too).
3.) Enter a new team into the Venezuelan Summer League
4.) Affiliate with some Italian and Dutch teams (PDC's again)
5.) Start a baseball academy in India..

Spend about a billion dollars on Asians basically.

Id be fine with 1 and 3.

Anything else is just overkill.
 

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That's the point...

They already bring over every Korean teenager worth a damn, so they have no reason not to have a baseball academy there.

India, and other places, idk. They haven't exactly proven to be baseball hotbeds, I'd rather they spend even more money in Latin America.
 

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They already bring over every Korean teenager worth a damn, so they have no reason not to have a baseball academy there.

India, and other places, idk. They haven't exactly proven to be baseball hotbeds, I'd rather they spend even more money in Latin America.

Dominican Republic: Check... Venezuelan: Nope, need to get some in Venezueland Summer League and Liga Paralela, Colombia: None yet, Nicaragua: None yet, Mexico: None yet, Puerto Rico (technically part of USA, but Who gives a ****): None yet, TBO: taken by Mark DeRosa already, Haiti: No League, but on the same island as the Dominican Republic, may have some talent, Cuba: Went completely amateur thanks to Fidel, but ya, many teams to be added.
 

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We really need something in Venezuela, so much talent comes from that country.
 

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Cubs needs to go Pro again...
 

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Id :fap: to that.

They should draft some female softball players (based on nothing but "fapability") and turn them into baseball players. They can have an All-Female "Prospects" Game after every Home Game... ticket sales would go way up...
 

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