Packers Safety Calls DJ Moore a Quitter and a Liar

[abegibronreborn]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5920806/2024/11/13/d-j-moore-xavier-mckinney-comments-packers-bears/

Too bad the bears are so bad and hopeless bulletin board material doesn't matter.

Bulletin board material is always welcome.

Smarter move is just to worry about your own team.

That said, Moore's leaving the field in the middle of a play is not a good look. I imagine a lot of players around the league are thinking the same thing.

 

[Sparks500]

Moore and the rest got the job done. They saw what an idiot Waldron was and got him fired. The plays he called made no sense and none of the players had any faith at all it would change. They saw their season and possibly careers going down the toilet because Everlose and Waldron are morons.
i bet they were hoping to get everlose out too, but, Bears…..

 

[DefNextYear]

Did you see that 2nd TD from Maye last week?
That's right it was a penalty and loss of a down because the WR stepped out and was the first to touch the ball.

If the WR goes out then he needs to remove himself as an option for the QB to avoid the penalty.

I addressed that somewhere… probably this thread. Did Hunter turn his back to the game action and go sit on the sidelines, not caring even a little bit to glance at the outcome of the play still going? I’m not talking about just stepping out. He left and didn’t give a shit about what was happening on the field. Injured or not, that was a bad look.

 

[dbldrew]

I addressed that somewhere… probably this thread. Did Hunter turn his back to the game action and go sit on the sidelines, not caring even a little bit to glance at the outcome of the play still going? I’m not talking about just stepping out. He left and didn’t give a shit about what was happening on the field. Injured or not, that was a bad look.

When players get injured they usually drop to the ground and "don't care even a little bit to glance at the outcome of the play"

We see this all the time, players tweak something and are out for a play and then back in. Happens all the time.

So would you of been happier if he just fell to the ground rather then limp off?

 

[bamainatlanta]

I'm saying it about Keenan Allen. What a shit trade and signing. Rome needs to bump grandpa Allen to the bench so he can contemplate his HOF acceptance speech there rather than mid-jog er mid-route.

Allen ain’t making the HOF. Hall of Very Good.

 

[DefNextYear]

When players get injured they usually drop to the ground and "don't care even a little bit to glance at the outcome of the play"

We see this all the time, players tweak something and are out for a play and then back in. Happens all the time.

So would you of been happier if he just fell to the ground rather then limp off?

Let's be real here... he was barely hurt. C'mon now. He didn't miss a snap. He could've stood on the sideline exactly like Hunter did. He didn't need to fall. He didn't even need medical attention or ask for it, so he didn't have to walk to the bench like he just lost the Super Bowl.

We don't see this all the time... which is why Xavier is calling him out on it and it's why you will find many clips of people trashing him for it. In fact, I welcome you to show me someone not in this forum saying he did the right thing. And, the only reason it digs at DJ is cause it was obviously shitty of DJ to do to begin with. Again, if it was totally normal or a good thing, Xavier's words would be meaningless and he'd not even bring it up. Players know it was shitty.

I don't know why anyone needs to protect him. He gave up on the play and showed a shitty attitude for a leader/captain. It's ok. It happens. Trying to excuse it as some normal happening is pointless and odd.

 

[dbldrew]

Let's be real here... he was barely hurt. C'mon now. He didn't miss a snap. He could've stood on the sideline exactly like Hunter did. He didn't need to fall. He didn't even need medical attention or ask for it, so he didn't have to walk to the bench like he just lost the Super Bowl.

We don't see this all the time... which is why Xavier is calling him out on it and it's why you will find many clips of people trashing him for it. In fact, I welcome you to show me someone not in this forum saying he did the right thing. And, the only reason it digs at DJ is cause it was obviously shitty of DJ to do to begin with. Again, if it was totally normal or a good thing, Xavier's words would be meaningless and he'd not even bring it up. Players know it was shitty.

I don't know why anyone needs to protect him. He gave up on the play and showed a shitty attitude for a leader/captain. It's ok. It happens. Trying to excuse it as some normal happening is pointless and odd.

Yeah let's be real, most of the players that go to the ground walk off the fields and the only reason they are not back in the next play is because they are forced to sit out at least 1 play.

I'm assuming you never played any sports? The difference between spraining and ankle and tweaking an ankle feels almost identical, the difference is that tweaking the pain goes away after 20 seconds while sprained does not. There is a reason the term "walk it off" is a thing.

There is no difference between tweaking something and going to the ground vs tweaking something and limping to the bench.. your out of the play, only difference is when you can legally go back into the game.

 

[DefNextYear]

Yeah let's be real, most of the players that go to the ground walk off the fields and the only reason they are not back in the next play is because they are forced to sit out at least 1 play.

I'm assuming you never played any sports? The difference between spraining and ankle and tweaking an ankle feels almost identical, the difference is that tweaking the pain goes away after 20 seconds while sprained does not. There is a reason the term "walk it off" is a thing.

There is no difference between tweaking something and going to the ground vs tweaking something and limping to the bench.. your out of the play, only difference is when you can legally go back into the game.

DJ wouldn't have been forced to sit anything out cause he didn't ask for medical attention, so not sure what you're getting at. He doesn't need to fall to the ground, but he might as well if he's going to be useless anyway. He eliminated any impact he could make on the play and didn't even care to know if he'd be needed to help.

Weird assumption to say you assume I never played sports. I think that's a dumb assumption. I assume almost everyone here has played sports. I know almost no one who hasn't. Then you factor in that we're a bunch of people so obsessed with sports that we post regularly online, and you up the likelihood. Now, if you want to go into what level people played or if they sat on the sidelines and watched cause they sucked... that's something else. Funny though, you bring up "walking it off" for someone who went to sit down. That's pretty much exactly my point. He clearly could have stood on the sideline to see the outcome of the play. He wasn't hurt that badly at all. I'm sure something hurt, but he could clearly walk and he was able to play the entire game and lead the team in snaps. His rookie QB is getting his ass kicked every week and he’s not going to the bench and giving up on plays. I'm sure DJ standing there to watch his teammates for the extra 3-5 seconds wouldn't have crippled him. And, if he was needed on the field, he would've at least been in a position to do something instead of being alone on the bench.

 

[dbldrew]

DJ wouldn't have been forced to sit anything out cause he didn't ask for medical attention, so not sure what you're getting at. He doesn't need to fall to the ground, but he might as well if he's going to be useless anyway. He eliminated any impact he could make on the play and didn't even care to know if he'd be needed to help.

Weird assumption to say you assume I never played sports. I think that's a dumb assumption. I assume almost everyone here has played sports. I know almost no one who hasn't. Then you factor in that we're a bunch of people so obsessed with sports that we post regularly online, and you up the likelihood. Now, if you want to go into what level people played or if they sat on the sidelines and watched cause they sucked... that's something else. Funny though, you bring up "walking it off" for someone who went to sit down. That's pretty much exactly my point. He clearly could have stood on the sideline to see the outcome of the play. He wasn't hurt that badly at all. I'm sure something hurt, but he could clearly walk and he was able to play the entire game and lead the team in snaps. His rookie QB is getting his ass kicked every week and he’s not going to the bench and giving up on plays. I'm sure DJ standing there to watch his teammates for the extra 3-5 seconds wouldn't have crippled him. And, if he was needed on the field, he would've at least been in a position to do something instead of being alone on the bench.

You dont need to ask for medical attention, if you dont go off the fields its an injury time out and you have to sit out a play.

Its not a wierd assumtion to make, you seem completly baffled by ankle injuries, so you either never played sports or you and all of your teamates have been lucky enough to never of had an ankle injury.

Player tweaks ankle goes to the ground, "does not watch the outcome of the play" has to sit out 1 play and playes the rest of the game = good
vs
Player tweaks ankle limps off field, "does not watch the outcome of the play" can go in the very next play, playes the rest of the game = Bad

make that make sense, because your position is completly illogical

 

[94c4lt1]

Allen ain’t making the HOF. Hall of Very Good.

Doesn't stop him from contemplating an acceptance speech - or whatever else is on his mind rather than actually performing on the field.

 

[BNB]

I'm saying it about Keenan Allen. What a shit trade and signing. Rome needs to bump grandpa Allen to the bench so he can contemplate his HOF acceptance speech there rather than mid-jog er mid-route.

Oh for sure, the trade wound up being a bust. But I don't think it's because Allen isn't trying, I think it's just because he's washed up. He's at the age where WRs tend to fall off a cliff as far as their production. The hope was it wouldn't happen to Allen because his style isn't dependent on speed, but it looks like it happened anyway. Maybe Waldron wasn't using him correctly either, so that could be contributing... but he just looks cooked.

 

[nc0gnet0]

I'm saying it about Keenan Allen. What a shit trade and signing. Rome needs to bump grandpa Allen to the bench so he can contemplate his HOF acceptance speech there rather than mid-jog er mid-route.

@remydat

 

[DaaBears]

Bears have a 53 man roster, and somehow DJ Moore and Keenan Allen, arguably the 2 best of the 53 are labeled the problem. Only the Bears.

 

[nc0gnet0]

• Receiver is out of bounds: dead ball, incomplete pass
• Receiver is in the field of play, but did not re-establish in bounds: dead ball, incomplete
• Receiver re-establishes and is first to touch the pass: live-ball foul, down continues until ball is dead; if penalty is accepted, return to the previous line-of-scrimmage, and increment to the next down
• Receiver re-establishes and touches or catches a tipped pass: live ball, no foul; once a ball is tipped, all 22 players are eligible

Receiver can step out of bounds and then block, after re-establishing himself inbounds.

 

[DefNextYear]

You dont need to ask for medical attention, if you dont go off the fields its an injury time out and you have to sit out a play.

Its not a wierd assumtion to make, you seem completly baffled by ankle injuries, so you either never played sports or you and all of your teamates have been lucky enough to never of had an ankle injury.

Player tweaks ankle goes to the ground, "does not watch the outcome of the play" has to sit out 1 play and playes the rest of the game = good
vs
Player tweaks ankle limps off field, "does not watch the outcome of the play" can go in the very next play, playes the rest of the game = Bad

make that make sense, because your position is completly illogical

It's only all that if you collapse and need an injury time out. He said he rolled it mid play and was obviously still jogging... so, you're exaggerating the impact quite a bit.

It is a weird assumption. What's hilarious... is this started cause an NFL player called him out on it, and you're somehow trying to tell me someone can't call him out or it means they don't play sports. Do you also assume guys who called him out on it like Xavier McKinney, Tim Jenkins, Chase Daniel, Emmanuel Acho, James Jones... etc... who don't believe he can walk off the field for that injury... you assume they never hurt their ankle, right? That's what you're telling me? They never had a teammate get hurt? They don't play sports? Your amazing history being an athlete means you know better than them as well. I would have a better stance claiming you never played if you think it's cool to just walk away from plays when you tweak an ankle.

As for your logic:

I never said it was good to go to the ground. This is a strawman on your part. You keep bringing up falling to the ground and I never asked him to go to the ground. I'm not asking him to act hurt. I'm saying if you're in a position where you are good enough to stand, you don't walk to the bench and turn your back on the team. It's pretty simple. If you can't stand, well you can't stand. Lucky for him I guess cause he'd not be in a position to make this decision to leave his team behind. But it's actually quite logical. And I asked you to show me former players who say what he did was the way a good teammate/captain/leader would act or a proper action to take. I'm still waiting cause I can show the opposite.

I'd love to see your thoughts if someone like Stevenson did this same thing on a play. Tweaked his ankle a bit and just walked off the play mid-play to go take a seat... gave up a nice chunk of yards to someone. I bet people would be very sympathetic and run to defend him.

 

[DefNextYear]

Bears have a 53 man roster, and somehow DJ Moore and Keenan Allen, arguably the 2 best of the 53 are labeled the problem. Only the Bears.

Can you show me who said they are the problem?

 

[DaaBears]

Can you show me who said they are the problem?

I assume you're kidding. This message board has had a huge number of posts over the last couple weeks of negative attitude things of DJ and Keenan Allen being too slow. There have been more negative posts about those two than anybody on the team.

 

[DefNextYear]

I assume you're kidding. This message board has had a huge number of posts over the last couple weeks of negative attitude things of DJ and Keenan Allen being too slow. There have been more negative posts about those two than anybody on the team.

Does that mean they are THE problem? That implies they are the sole reason we're struggling. Are you saying Keenan isn't slow? Are you saying DJ doesn't have a poor attitude at times? Is anyone saying that if DJ wasn't negative or if Keenan wasn't slow, there'd be no problems?

 

[dbldrew]

It's only all that if you collapse and need an injury time out.

which happens EVERY SINGLE GAME and they get up, walk off the field and back in after sitting out 1 play
Where is your outrage for that?

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

Does that mean they are THE problem? That implies they are the sole reason we're struggling. Are you saying Keenan isn't slow? Are you saying DJ doesn't have a poor attitude at times? Is anyone saying that if DJ wasn't negative or if Keenan wasn't slow, there'd be no problems?

It will be interesting to chart how many careers Caleb Williams will destroy over the course of his career. Its not even that Caleb is a rookie....there have been innumerable instances of teams being able to win with rookie QBs...."THE" problem is that Caleb is historically terrible at playing the QB position. Everything else is just noise. If the Bears had some schlep QB like Sam Darnold, they'd be 7-2 right now.

This board is delusional. You have guys who are proven NFL-level performers like DJ Moore getting criticized while every excuse is being made for Caleb Williams who has been terrible from Day 1. But the Bears franchise is the same way....they'll shuttle in players, coaches, etc. while sticking with Caleb Williams for the next 3 years, winning nothing, and then the cycle will repeat itself.

Drafting QBs is an inexact science. Sometimes you miss. Good organizations move on. Bad organizations try to convince themselves they were "right" when all evidence says otherwise.