Packers Safety Calls DJ Moore a Quitter and a Liar

[doctorbear]

Probably true

 

[doctorbear]

It will be interesting to chart how many careers Caleb Williams will destroy over the course of his career. Its not even that Caleb is a rookie....there have been innumerable instances of teams being able to win with rookie QBs...."THE" problem is that Caleb is historically terrible at playing the QB position. Everything else is just noise. If the Bears had some schlep QB like Sam Darnold, they'd be 7-2 right now.

This board is delusional. You have guys who are proven NFL-level performers like DJ Moore getting criticized while every excuse is being made for Caleb Williams who has been terrible from Day 1. But the Bears franchise is the same way....they'll shuttle in players, coaches, etc. while sticking with Caleb Williams for the next 3 years, winning nothing, and then the cycle will repeat itself.

Drafting QBs is an inexact science. Sometimes you miss. Good organizations move on. Bad organizations try to convince themselves they were "right" when all evidence says otherwise.

You can be 110% right. It still sucks to move on quickly from a 1st round QB.

The unfortunate thing is that coaching does matter. No one can quantify how much in every specific situation though. When the Bears keep rolling out horrible coaches it's hard from a fan perspective to easily accept moving on. If Shanahan was the coach and wants to move on, then sure I'm on board. If it's Eberflus and fucking Waldron I have to maintain some hope that the QB isn't a TOTAL failure.

If the Bears even remotely tried doing shit the right way: reputable coaches, build from inside (lines)/out, etc and your QB comes out and plays like complete shit, I'm totally on board with quickly moving on.

 

[DefNextYear]

which happens EVERY SINGLE GAME and they get up, walk off the field and back in after sitting out 1 play
Where is your outrage for that?

The point is you’re so hurt that you feel the need to fall. You cannot stand. DJ obviously wasn’t hurt enough that he had to fall. And, as I said, if someone falls, maybe they’re fortunate enough that they don’t get to turn their backs and walk away. What’s hard to get? You have proof of former players who said DJ did the right thing or you still know better than them too?

 

[DefNextYear]

It will be interesting to chart how many careers Caleb Williams will destroy over the course of his career. Its not even that Caleb is a rookie....there have been innumerable instances of teams being able to win with rookie QBs...."THE" problem is that Caleb is historically terrible at playing the QB position. Everything else is just noise. If the Bears had some schlep QB like Sam Darnold, they'd be 7-2 right now.

This board is delusional. You have guys who are proven NFL-level performers like DJ Moore getting criticized while every excuse is being made for Caleb Williams who has been terrible from Day 1. But the Bears franchise is the same way....they'll shuttle in players, coaches, etc. while sticking with Caleb Williams for the next 3 years, winning nothing, and then the cycle will repeat itself.

Drafting QBs is an inexact science. Sometimes you miss. Good organizations move on. Bad organizations try to convince themselves they were "right" when all evidence says otherwise.

Caleb is the biggest problem right now and he is projecting in the wrong direction, but he was also the most likely problem, being a rookie. Having a rookie should be an investment into that person, knowing it isn’t supposed to be easy. It’s worse when you have poor leadership. People who don’t like Caleb or love Fields just want to exaggerate as if no one acknowledges that he’s played horribly. I can’t think of a single poster saying he’s doing great and it’s not his fault at all.

 

[dbldrew]

The point is you’re so hurt that you feel the need to fall. You cannot stand. DJ obviously wasn’t hurt enough that he had to fall. And, as I said, if someone falls, maybe they’re fortunate enough that they don’t get to turn their backs and walk away. What’s hard to get? You have proof of former players who said DJ did the right thing or you still know better than them too?

I have sprained my ankle and kept walking.. well it was more of a limp but it didnt get better like a tweaked ankle would "walking it off"
The funny thing is when I sprained my ankle I didnt think I sprained it. But have tweaked my ankle plenty of times and thought for sure it was spraned.. then a min later it was fine. The point that you keep refusing to accept is sprained vs tweaked will feel about the same for the first 20 seconds or so.

So DJ can not be a WR because he stepped out, and you want DJ to block without knowing if he sprained his ankle?

 

[JesusHalasChrist]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1857827218551935181

Uncatchable balls, on the other hand...

 

[DefNextYear]

I have sprained my ankle and kept walking.. well it was more of a limp but it didnt get better like a tweaked ankle would "walking it off"
The funny thing is when I sprained my ankle I didnt think I sprained it. But have tweaked my ankle plenty of times and thought for sure it was spraned.. then a min later it was fine. The point that you keep refusing to accept is sprained vs tweaked will feel about the same for the first 20 seconds or so.

So DJ can not be a WR because he stepped out, and you want DJ to block without knowing if he sprained his ankle?

Everyone has hurt ankles, playing sports or not. I’ve had minor injuries and worse ones. I’ve had a high ankle sprain bad enough that I collapsed and ended up in an air cast with crutches. I’ve had minor ones that you walk off… and everything in between. You’re not some special person to have experienced it. It’s not that uncommon.

I didn’t say any of those things are what I wanted. You just keep going on tangents. How about you start answering some of the questions I asked?

Does McKinney play sports and have sufficient experience, in your superior knowledge as an athlete, to comment on it? Does Chase Daniel? Does James Jones? Does Emmanuel Acho? Tim Jenkins? Or is your athletic history so much better than theirs that your one opinion is better than many?

How many people have said he did the right thing and the optics were fine? And of course, when you find those people, I’d like to know they played sports before cause I couldn’t care less of their opinion if they didn’t.

Do you honestly think anyone on the team was happy with how he handled it? Do you think if some bum like VJJ or Scott did that, the coaches wouldn’t have penalized him for it? Well, good coaches… we know our coaches don’t hold anyone accountable unless they’re forced to.

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

People who don’t like Caleb or love Fields just want to exaggerate as if no one acknowledges that he’s played horribly. I can’t think of a single poster saying he’s doing great and it’s not his fault at all.

That's a relief! I can't imagine someone saying that Caleb is doing great and nothing is his fault. CCS is really on top of things.

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

The point is you’re so hurt that you feel the need to fall. You cannot stand. DJ obviously wasn’t hurt enough that he had to fall.

So if DJ fell down, all of the Bears' problems would be solved. But since he didn't, the Bears are 4-5 and Caleb Williams is statistically the most inaccurate QB of the last 15 years. Of all the bad things that have happened this season, I would put DJ limping off the field as #206 on a list of importance.

Are you a Benghazi Truther as well?

 

[dbldrew]

Everyone has hurt ankles, playing sports or not. I’ve had minor injuries and worse ones. I’ve had a high ankle sprain bad enough that I collapsed and ended up in an air cast with crutches. I’ve had minor ones that you walk off… and everything in between. You’re not some special person to have experienced it. It’s not that uncommon.

I listed what happened to me becasue I have had first hand expereance with ankle injuries that I could walk on, both serious and not. So what DJ did on that play makes perfect sense. the problem here is you are admiting you have had the same injuries but somehow are confused by the events? this is not a good look for you at all. I assumed you where lucky enough not to have thoes kinds of injuries, but you admitting you have had the same ? not a good look man

I didn’t say any of those things are what I wanted. You just keep going on tangents. How about you start answering some of the questions I asked?

Its not a tangent its just pointing out your hypocrisy, unless you want to point to examples of you calling out other players who have taken themselves out of plays due to injury and then back in right away? Like I said this happens all the time so there should be lots of examples of you calling out other players if your not being hypocritical.

Does McKinney play sports and have sufficient experience, in your superior knowledge as an athlete, to comment on it? Does Chase Daniel? Does James Jones? Does Emmanuel Acho? Tim Jenkins? Or is your athletic history so much better than theirs that your one opinion is better than many?

I dont care what any of them had to say, DJ more said he tweaked his ankle and ended up going out of bounds. His explanation fits perfectly with the film, he stepped out and was limping. So why should I ignore the actual film and the actual person?

How many people have said he did the right thing and the optics were fine? And of course, when you find those people, I’d like to know they played sports before cause I couldn’t care less of their opinion if they didn’t.

Lots of people after DJ had his interview where talking about tweaking their ankles and thinking it was a serious injury that just disappears after a min. You know this happens because you admitted it has happened to you.

Do you honestly think anyone on the team was happy with how he handled it? Do you think if some bum like VJJ or Scott did that, the coaches wouldn’t have penalized him for it? Well, good coaches… we know our coaches don’t hold anyone accountable unless they’re forced to.

Why wouldn't they believe him? He said he tweaked his ankle and there is A VIDEO OF HIM LIMPING why dont you believe him?

Why are you ignoring what DJ said and pretending there is not a video that supports what he said?

I think I know why, you are looking for an escape goat for why CW has not been good, you are in the "blame everyone else" camp? is that why? Is that why you are ignoring what he said, the video of it happening and your own experiences?

 

[HSBOB]

Maybe Moore and a few other vets are as disillusioned as all of we are by a team that appeared to have all the pieces in place with the exception of the O-line and seeing that team do nothing to address this crippling weakness. How did actually being sellers vs buyers at the TDL go over with the veterans? Maybe Herbert isn't a big loss but he was the insurance policy for our heavily worked RB1 and a useful 4.6yd per RB1 himself last year,I dunno if the move sent a message or not but doing nothing to fortify the incompetence with the O-line might have. Finishing-out the incredibly difficult schedule with the O-line talent available seems downright reckless to me.
Say what you want about the inept HC,or the inept former OC,or the struggling rookie QB but think back to what was said about all of em only a month ago.
The team was rolling with three in a row,CW was speeding the ball around to all three WR's and Kmet,he was shreading defenses when he had even minimum pocket time and making Mahomes-like plays on the run when he had none. Swift was tearin' off huge chunks, the D was as advertised. The undisciplined and demoralized group that came out of the break is mind boggling!

 

[nc0gnet0]

Maybe Moore and a few other vets are as disillusioned as all of we are by a team that appeared to have all the pieces in place with the exception of the O-line and seeing that team do nothing to address this crippling weakness. How did actually being sellers vs buyers at the TDL go over with the veterans? Maybe Herbert isn't a big loss but he was the insurance policy for our heavily worked RB1 and a useful 4.6yd per RB1 himself last year,I dunno if the move sent a message or not but doing nothing to fortify the incompetence with the O-line might have. Finishing-out the incredibly difficult schedule with the O-line talent available seems downright reckless to me.
Say what you want about the inept HC,or the inept former OC,or the struggling rookie QB but think back to what was said about all of em only a month ago.
The team was rolling with three in a row,CW was speeding the ball around to all three WR's and Kmet,he was shreading defenses when he had even minimum pocket time and making Mahomes-like plays on the run when he had none. Swift was tearin' off huge chunks, the D was as advertised. The undisciplined and demoralized group that came out of the break is mind boggling!

Strength of competition is a thing.

 

[bamainatlanta]

So if DJ fell down, all of the Bears' problems would be solved. But since he didn't, the Bears are 4-5 and Caleb Williams is statistically the most inaccurate QB of the last 15 years. Of all the bad things that have happened this season, I would put DJ limping off the field as #206 on a list of importance.

Are you a Benghazi Truther as well?

No politics. Thanks.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

The bears are run by HR....probably a bunch of HR and OSHA related material already filled up the bulletin board; so no room.

Idiot

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

No politics. Thanks.

Maybe you should ban him for 2 weeks since that seems to be the agreed upon punishment by the down syndrome mods.

 

[greg23]

Idiot

Tranny

 

[HSBOB]

Strength of competition is a thing.

Yes it is, but another thing is, they were beating weaker teams the way good teams are supposed to.

 

[nc0gnet0]

Yes it is, but another thing is, they were beating weaker teams the way good teams are supposed to.

Wasn't NE a "weaker" team?

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Tranny

Tranny

Merry Christmas yourself slowly fucking loser

 

[greg23]

Merry Christmas yourself slowly fucking loser

Back from jail?