Penei Sewell (OFISHAIL) LANCE STONE THREAD OF THE YEAR WINNER)

[Bearly]

Good, I expect them to go DE with the number 1 pick, instead of, say, trading two first rounders for a DE?

2023 is the year they need to take a QB.

After all the picks involved are added or subtracted, the value given for Mack was the 15th pick in a single draft. To bad there wasn't a Fields in the 2022 draft, you might be able to get 3 1sts for that pick, LOL. Mack was a steal.

 

[remydat]

And you could have drafted Mahomes.......

So your point is what exactly?

Not picking a QB is much different than picking the WRONG QB.

Lions opted to first solidify the O-line rather than try to get a QB killed (which incidentally is what it seems the Bears are trying to do)

Yes and we get shit for not drafting Watson or Mahomes.

Are you saying both Fields and Jones are busts as the point is yall fucked up by drafting a RT top 10 instead of a franchise QB.

If either or both of Fields and Jones become franchise QBs then you have made the wrong choice. Period.

 

[nc0gnet0]

After all the picks involved are added or subtracted, the value given for Mack was the 15th pick in a single draft. To bad there wasn't a Fields in the 2022 draft, you might be able to get 3 1sts for that pick, LOL. Mack was a steal.

If Fields doesn't improve, you will be lucky to get a bag of stale donuts for him. I have heard all this crap before, roughly at or about the first/second year of Trubisky's career. Where is he now?

 

[nc0gnet0]

Yes and we get shit for not drafting Watson or Mahomes.

Are you saying both Fields and Jones are busts as the point is yall fucked up by drafting a RT top 10 instead of a franchise QB.

If either or both of Fields and Jones become franchise QBs then you have made the wrong choice. Period.

Your debating skills are diminishing, perhaps you should take a break?

That is like me saying the Mack trade was a huge mistake, and then cherry picking two 1st round picks you might have had if you didn't make the trade.

if you want to know about making wrong choices, how about Foles/Dalton/Glennon?

The only thing that is certain, is even if the Lions had drafted Fields, they would be no better, and perhaps worse this year.

If Sewel Develops into a perennial pro-bowler, and the Lions go on to draft C.J. Stroud or Bryce Young in 2023, or even sign one of Rodgers/Watson/Wilson in FA 2022, how was it the wrong choice?

Only the ignorant look at it in a vacuum. The only thing you can say conclusively at this time is Jones is performing better than Fields, so maybe it is the Bears that made the wrong choice, period!

 

[hyatt151]

Your debating skills are diminishing, perhaps you should take a break?

That is like me saying the Mack trade was a huge mistake, and then cherry picking two 1st round picks you might have had if you didn't make the trade.

if you want to know about making wrong choices, how about Foles/Dalton/Glennon?

The only thing that is certain, is even if the Lions had drafted Fields, they would be no better, and perhaps worse this year.

If Sewel Develops into a perennial pro-bowler, and the Lions go on to draft C.J. Stroud or Bryce Young in 2023, or even sign one of Rodgers/Watson/Wilson in FA 2022, how was it the wrong choice?

Only the ignorant look at it in a vacuum. The only thing you can say conclusively at this time is Jones is performing better than Fields, so maybe it is the Bears that made the wrong choice, period!

lions could draft a QB with their later 1st round pick this draft, the only question is do they go Thibadeaux or Hutchinson with the 1st pick, your the lions fan so who will it be at #1,cant go wrong either way

 

[bears51/40]

Your second rnd pick just only recently seen the field, and looked like dog shit doing it. So, your point is what?

That overall, the Lions drafts have sucked, and you have gotten little to nothing from your most recent draft classes. All the while drafting in the top 10 year after year.

 

[Anytime23]

Kind of crazy how the Bears are as bad as they've been in years and they're still 4 times the team Detroit is.

 

[Bearcub13]

Your debating skills are diminishing, perhaps you should take a break?

That is like me saying the Mack trade was a huge mistake, and then cherry picking two 1st round picks you might have had if you didn't make the trade.

if you want to know about making wrong choices, how about Foles/Dalton/Glennon?

The only thing that is certain, is even if the Lions had drafted Fields, they would be no better, and perhaps worse this year.

If Sewel Develops into a perennial pro-bowler, and the Lions go on to draft C.J. Stroud or Bryce Young in 2023, or even sign one of Rodgers/Watson/Wilson in FA 2022, how was it the wrong choice?

Only the ignorant look at it in a vacuum. The only thing you can say conclusively at this time is Jones is performing better than Fields, so maybe it is the Bears that made the wrong choice, period!

Jones will prove to be the perfect QB for New England, but he would fail pretty much anywhere else. If the Bears had drafted Jones he would be on the IR by now. Fields is a QB who can lift a team, Jones is a QB who can run an offense.

 

[remydat]

Your debating skills are diminishing, perhaps you should take a break?

That is like me saying the Mack trade was a huge mistake, and then cherry picking two 1st round picks you might have had if you didn't make the trade.

if you want to know about making wrong choices, how about Foles/Dalton/Glennon?

The only thing that is certain, is even if the Lions had drafted Fields, they would be no better, and perhaps worse this year.

If Sewel Develops into a perennial pro-bowler, and the Lions go on to draft C.J. Stroud or Bryce Young in 2023, or even sign one of Rodgers/Watson/Wilson in FA 2022, how was it the wrong choice?

Only the ignorant look at it in a vacuum. The only thing you can say conclusively at this time is Jones is performing better than Fields, so maybe it is the Bears that made the wrong choice, period!

No it is not like that at all. The issue is you dont have a long term answer at QB and QB was a bigger and more important need than RT.

2019 NFL draft - Wikipedia

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2020 NFL draft - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Feel free to point out who we should have drafted instead of trading for Mack that is as important or as big a need as QB is fpr Detroit.

 

[nc0gnet0]

lions could draft a QB with their later 1st round pick this draft, the only question is do they go Thibadeaux or Hutchinson with the 1st pick, your the lions fan so who will it be at #1,cant go wrong either way

i honestly hope they do not draft a QB this year, at least not early. I am fine with a 3 win or less season next year, and draft a QB 2023, and they still have two firsts that year as well.

As for witch is better, Thibadeaux or Hutchinson, I honestly don't know, would be happy with either.

 

[nc0gnet0]

That overall, the Lions drafts have sucked, and you have gotten little to nothing from your most recent draft classes. All the while drafting in the top 10 year after year.

How about that you are completely clueless?

2016​	16​	Taylor Decker	OT	Ohio State
2017​	21​	Jarrad Davis	LB	Florida
2018​	20​	Frank Ragnow	C	Arkansas
2019​	8​	T. J. Hockenson	TE	Iowa
2020​	3​	Jeff Okudah	CB	Ohio State
2021​	7​	Penei Sewell

4 pro-bowlers (assuming Sewell ascends to that level.......

One near bust in Davis, Jury is still out on Okudah, but injuries' are starting to become a concern.

For god's sake, do some research before you post.

So tell me, Decker/Ragnow/Hockenson/Sewell......which of these players would not be starting on the Bears?

And then there is this cluster fuck:

2015​	7​	Kevin White	WR	West Virginia	​
2016​	9​	Leonard Floyd	LB	Georgia	​
2017​	2​	Mitchell Trubisky †	QB	North Carolina	​
2018​	8​	Roquan Smith	LB	Georgia	​
2019​	—​	No pick (traded to Oakland for Khalil Mack)​	​
2020​	—​
2021​	11​	Justin Fields	QB	Ohio State

If not for Smith, this would be an absolute failure.

 

[nc0gnet0]

No it is not like that at all. The issue is you dont have a long term answer at QB and QB was a bigger and more important need than RT.

2019 NFL draft - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

2020 NFL draft - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Feel free to point out who we should have drafted instead of trading for Mack that is as important or as big a need as QB is fpr Detroit.

And you still do not know if you have a long term at QB, all you know if you have significantly less draft capital. If the Lions felt a long term QB answer was important to the near future, they could have just kept Stafford, that right there tells you this is a long term rebuild.

At least our GM is not perpetually throwing shit against the wall and hoping something sticks.

Glennon/Trubisky/Foles/ Dalton.........Fields?

 

[nc0gnet0]

Kind of crazy how the Bears are as bad as they've been in years and they're still 4 times the team Detroit is.

Says the guy that started this thread and has been proven time and time again football ignorant.

This is a real gem:

Penei looks awful. Spinning around like a dreidel, letting Goff get killed. Shameful performance smh

Then later shown this "dreidel" was shown to be the top rated tackle in the league that week.

You can't make this shit up.

 

[Anytime23]

Says the guy that started this thread and has been proven time and time again football ignorant.

This is a real gem:

Penei looks awful. Spinning around like a dreidel, letting Goff get killed. Shameful performance smh

Then later shown this "dreidel" was shown to be the top rated tackle in the league that week.

You can't make this shit up.

speaking of making shit up, have fun with PFF grades, crybaby Bears fan.

 

[nc0gnet0]

speaking of making shit up, have fun with PFF grades, crybaby Bears fan.

Yes, because as we all know, your much better at evaluating a players performance than the people at PFF.

Get a grip.

 

[Anytime23]

Yes, because as we all know, your much better at evaluating a players performance than the people at PFF.

Get a grip.

PFF told me Allen Robinson didn't drop a pass in almost a year only 2 weeks after dropping a 40 yard dime vs Cincy. Forgive me for taking everything they saw with a grain of salt.

Keep crying.

 

[Bearly]

If Fields doesn't improve, you will be lucky to get a bag of stale donuts for him. I have heard all this crap before, roughly at or about the first/second year of Trubisky's career. Where is he now?

Where he belongs but what does that have to do with the price of bread?

 

[remydat]

And you still do not know if you have a long term at QB, all you know if you have significantly less draft capital. If the Lions felt a long term QB answer was important to the near future, they could have just kept Stafford, that right there tells you this is a long term rebuild.

At least our GM is not perpetually throwing shit against the wall and hoping something sticks.

Glennon/Trubisky/Foles/ Dalton.........Fields?

Why would we know after 1 year? That is just a stupid statement. In any event you seem to be veering off course. The topic was not the Bears but whether it made sense for the Lions to draft a RT at a position of strength (OL) in the top 10 instead of trying to fix the most important position on the Fields that was a massive need.

1. Is QB more important than RT?
2. Was the Lions OL already pretty good?
3. If Mac Jones and/or Fields are franchise QBs, was it smart to draft a RT over them?

I don't know why you seem to be dodging the issue. It is obvious that if Sewell is good and the other 2 guys bust that Sewell was the right pick. However if Sewell is good but so is Fields and/or Jones then it was a stupid fucking decision. You don't draft a RT when the OL is a strength over a QB when you QB is Jared Goff.

 

[remydat]

How about that you are completely clueless?

2016​	16​	Taylor Decker	OT	Ohio State
2017​	21​	Jarrad Davis	LB	Florida
2018​	20​	Frank Ragnow	C	Arkansas
2019​	8​	T. J. Hockenson	TE	Iowa
2020​	3​	Jeff Okudah	CB	Ohio State
2021​	7​	Penei Sewell

4 pro-bowlers (assuming Sewell ascends to that level.......

One near bust in Davis, Jury is still out on Okudah, but injuries' are starting to become a concern.

For god's sake, do some research before you post.

So tell me, Decker/Ragnow/Hockenson/Sewell......which of these players would not be starting on the Bears?

And then there is this cluster fuck:

2015​	7​	Kevin White	WR	West Virginia	​
2016​	9​	Leonard Floyd	LB	Georgia	​
2017​	2​	Mitchell Trubisky †	QB	North Carolina	​
2018​	8​	Roquan Smith	LB	Georgia	​
2019​	—​	No pick (traded to Oakland for Khalil Mack)​	​
2020​	—​
2021​	11​	Justin Fields	QB	Ohio State

If not for Smith, this would be an absolute failure.

Decker has not made the Pro Bowl. Just Ragnow and Hockenson. If Fields is a franchise QB then that trumps a Pro Bowl C and TE all day everyday.

 

[nc0gnet0]

Decker has not made the Pro Bowl. Just Ragnow and Hockenson. If Fields is a franchise QB then that trumps a Pro Bowl C and TE all day everyday.

IF

To date the only thing he has accomplished is to barely eek out a 200 yd game and fumble, and fumble often.

Good arm strength, but slow to make a read. Can't hold on to the football. Exactly what was said about him in his scouting report, and why he fell as he did.

The draft is not the only way to acquire a QB, just ask LA or Tampa. And there is no disputing that the Bears early round picks have been far worse in recent years than the Lions.

And Decker would be the best O-lineman on the Bears by far. But then again, many on here were raving about Mustipher at the beginning of the season..............