Pick an owner: Reinsdorf or Dolan

[nwfisch]

Vote.:fist::fist:

 

[Scoot26]

I'll take 6 championships to Dolan's...Zero.

 

[nwfisch]

I'll take 6 championships to Dolan's...Zero.

But Dolan tried harder?

[video=youtube;oE9efV8hru4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE9efV8hru4[/video]

 

[houheffna]

Right...how stupid. Same guy hyping up one great player over greater players based on ring...totally knocks the guy that PAID for those championships over a guy who hires executives that get sued for harassment and overpays players who underachieves. But hey , he spends a lot of money...so he's better. Take the 6 rings and throw them away...

Please read this and tell me how 97Bulls isn't the dumbest mf'er with a keyboard...

Like the Rangers, the Knicks performed abysmally in the early 2000s and have yet to recover, which fans mostly blame on Dolan's management missteps. Although the Knicks made the NBA Finals in 1999, they have not posted a winning season until the 2010-2011 season. Furthermore, the Knicks had not made the playoffs from the 2003-2004 season to the 2010-2011 season, which both ended in first round four game sweeps for the Knicks. Dolan has come under fire from many Knicks' fans for the teams run of consecutive losing seasons from 2001-2002 to 2009-2010. Numerous media[SUP][who?][/SUP] and informal fan polls, including a recent Sports Illustrated poll, have ranked Dolan the worst owner in the NBA.[SUP][4][/SUP] In 2007, NBA Commissioner David Stern criticized Dolan's management of the Knicks, saying "they're not a model of intelligent management."[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP] One widely criticized decision was to give shooting guard Allan Houston a 6-year, $100 million maximum contract in 2001, when no other team had offered Houston more than $75 million. Houston retired due to injury after just four seasons and with over $40 million remaining on his contract.
In 2003, Dolan hired Isiah Thomas as Team President of Basketball Operations and General Manager to replace embattled executive Scott Layden. Thomas made aggressive moves to re-tool and upgrade the Knicks roster through trades, the NBA Draft, and free agency. Despite the talent Thomas imported, the team did not perform up to expectations and Thomas was often the target of the frustration of Knick fans; Dolan was also on the receiving end of the ire of Knicks' fans for his commitment to Thomas' in spite of Thomas' sometimes questionable decisions.
After the 2004-2005 season, the Knicks signed head coach Larry Brown to a 5 year, $50 million contract. After just one (losing) season, Brown was fired and the team bought-out Brown's contract for $18 million. Brown walked away with a total of $28 million for coaching the Knicks for just one year.
After firing Larry Brown, Isiah Thomas assumed the duties of being the head coach of the Knicks. During a staged interview on MSG Network, which is the last time Dolan answered questions from the media, Dolan gave Thomas an ultimatum to show "evident progress" or potentially be fired. In the latter half of the 2006-2007 season, with the Knicks within reach of a playoff spot, Dolan signed Thomas to a multi-year contract extension. The team subsequently fell out of contention and Dolan was castigated in many quarters for his extension of Thomas' contract. The next season, Dolan stripped Thomas of his front office duties because Thomas had taken the Knicks to the playoffs just once during his tenure. New team President Donnie Walsh removed Thomas as head coach upon the conclusion of the season.
Other coaches that also had short-lived tenures as head coaches of the Knicks include Don Chaney (2001–2003) and Lenny Wilkens (2003–2005). Like Thomas and Brown, they remained on the Knicks' payroll following their departure from the bench due to multi-year contracts signed with the owner (and in Chaney's case, 2 separate contract extensions).
In 2007, Dolan was named as a defendant in a sexual harassment lawsuit submitted by a former Knicks executive, Anucha Browne-Sanders. Browne-Sanders accused Dolan of firing her out of spite after she complained about sexual harassment from Isiah Thomas. The court ruled in favor of Brown-Sanders and Dolan had to pay $3 million of the $11 million settlement. MSG was responsible for paying the remainder of the settlement.[SUP][7][/SUP]
In July 2012, Dolan faced criticism for allowing popular Knicks point guard Jeremy Lin to sign with the Houston Rockets without matching their $25.1 million offer.[SUP][8][/SUP]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_L._Dolan

I could understand better if he said Mark Cuban...but Dolan? Unbelievable...

 

[Glide2keva]

That's an easy choice.

JR, now if you put up Jerry Buss as the opposite choice, that would be a different story.

 

[ChettheJet]

Spending money, even tons of it, is easy. Spending it wisely and productively is something Dolan hasn't mastered.

That's why Mike D'Antoni has been hired and fired by the Knicks in the span of time the Bulls went + .500 twice with Vinnie, and twice had the best record in the NBA with a Coach of the Year.

 

[JosMin]

Come on now, Fisch :smh:

 

[houheffna]

Come on now, Fisch :smh:

He did this in response to another poster saying that most Bulls fans would take Dolan over J.R. Yeah, someone actually said that.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Option C: Mark Cuban

 

[nwfisch]

Option C: Mark Cuban

Not an option

 

[clonetrooper264]

Not an option

Option D: Jerry Buss

:fist:

 

[nwfisch]

Option D: Jerry Buss

:fist:

Not an option either :smh:

 

[BNB]

Between the two, it's definitely Reinsdorf.

 

[97Bulls]

I sure would like to know why Reinsdorf gets the nod over Dolan

 

[nwfisch]

I'll take 6 championships to Dolan's...Zero.

This.

I sure would like to know why Reinsdorf gets the nod over Dolan

 

[BNB]

I sure would like to know why Reinsdorf gets the nod over Dolan

Dolan does a good job opening up his wallet... but he doesn't do a good job with who he opens it up for.

 

[97Bulls]

Right...how stupid. Same guy hyping up one great player over greater players based on ring...totally knocks the guy that PAID for those championships over a guy who hires executives that get sued for harassment and overpays players who underachieves. But hey , he spends a lot of money...so he's better. Take the 6 rings and throw them away...

Please read this and tell me how 97Bulls isn't the dumbest mf'er with a keyboard...

Like the Rangers, the Knicks performed abysmally in the early 2000s and have yet to recover, which fans mostly blame on Dolan's management missteps. Although the Knicks made the NBA Finals in 1999, they have not posted a winning season until the 2010-2011 season. Furthermore, the Knicks had not made the playoffs from the 2003-2004 season to the 2010-2011 season, which both ended in first round four game sweeps for the Knicks. Dolan has come under fire from many Knicks' fans for the teams run of consecutive losing seasons from 2001-2002 to 2009-2010. Numerous media[SUP][who?][/SUP] and informal fan polls, including a recent Sports Illustrated poll, have ranked Dolan the worst owner in the NBA.[SUP][4][/SUP] In 2007, NBA Commissioner David Stern criticized Dolan's management of the Knicks, saying "they're not a model of intelligent management."[SUP][5][/SUP][SUP][6][/SUP] One widely criticized decision was to give shooting guard Allan Houston a 6-year, $100 million maximum contract in 2001, when no other team had offered Houston more than $75 million. Houston retired due to injury after just four seasons and with over $40 million remaining on his contract.
In 2003, Dolan hired Isiah Thomas as Team President of Basketball Operations and General Manager to replace embattled executive Scott Layden. Thomas made aggressive moves to re-tool and upgrade the Knicks roster through trades, the NBA Draft, and free agency. Despite the talent Thomas imported, the team did not perform up to expectations and Thomas was often the target of the frustration of Knick fans; Dolan was also on the receiving end of the ire of Knicks' fans for his commitment to Thomas' in spite of Thomas' sometimes questionable decisions.
After the 2004-2005 season, the Knicks signed head coach Larry Brown to a 5 year, $50 million contract. After just one (losing) season, Brown was fired and the team bought-out Brown's contract for $18 million. Brown walked away with a total of $28 million for coaching the Knicks for just one year.
After firing Larry Brown, Isiah Thomas assumed the duties of being the head coach of the Knicks. During a staged interview on MSG Network, which is the last time Dolan answered questions from the media, Dolan gave Thomas an ultimatum to show "evident progress" or potentially be fired. In the latter half of the 2006-2007 season, with the Knicks within reach of a playoff spot, Dolan signed Thomas to a multi-year contract extension. The team subsequently fell out of contention and Dolan was castigated in many quarters for his extension of Thomas' contract. The next season, Dolan stripped Thomas of his front office duties because Thomas had taken the Knicks to the playoffs just once during his tenure. New team President Donnie Walsh removed Thomas as head coach upon the conclusion of the season.
Other coaches that also had short-lived tenures as head coaches of the Knicks include Don Chaney (2001–2003) and Lenny Wilkens (2003–2005). Like Thomas and Brown, they remained on the Knicks' payroll following their departure from the bench due to multi-year contracts signed with the owner (and in Chaney's case, 2 separate contract extensions).
In 2007, Dolan was named as a defendant in a sexual harassment lawsuit submitted by a former Knicks executive, Anucha Browne-Sanders. Browne-Sanders accused Dolan of firing her out of spite after she complained about sexual harassment from Isiah Thomas. The court ruled in favor of Brown-Sanders and Dolan had to pay $3 million of the $11 million settlement. MSG was responsible for paying the remainder of the settlement.[SUP][7][/SUP]
In July 2012, Dolan faced criticism for allowing popular Knicks point guard Jeremy Lin to sign with the Houston Rockets without matching their $25.1 million offer.[SUP][8][/SUP]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_L._Dolan

I could understand better if he said Mark Cuban...but Dolan? Unbelievable...

Lol as if I cant quote an essay oon why jerry Reinsdorf Is considered the worst owner in Basketball. Id much rather have an owner whos all in as opposed to an owner that clearly doesn't give a shit.

 

[nwfisch]

Lol as if I cant quote an essay oon why jerry Reinsdorf Is considered the worst owner in Basketball. Id much rather have an owner whos all in as opposed to an owner that clearly doesn't give a shit.

 

[97Bulls]

Dolan does a good job opening up his wallet... but he doesn't do a good job with who he opens it up for.

So honestly, who did he overpay for? Besides Jerome James. Allan Houston was one of the best SGs in the league when the Knicks signed him. Who couldve predicted he was gonna have injury problems? Stephon Marbury was one of the top PGs in the league as well. He hired Isiah Thomas for what he did the previous few seasons in Indiana. I cant fault him for hiring Larry Brown, or Lenny Wilkens either.

Most of the stuff your blaming Dolan for were GM decisions. Do we really need to rehash the dumb moves the Bulls GMs have made ove the last ten plus years?

 

[nwfisch]

So honestly, who did he overpay for? Besides Jerome James. Allan Houston was one of the best SGs in the league when the Knicks signed him. Who couldve predicted he was gonna have injury problems? Stephon Marbury was one of the top PGs in the league as well. He hired Isiah Thomas for what he did the previous few seasons in Indiana. I cant fault him for hiring Larry Brown, or Lenny Wilkens either.

Most of the stuff your blaming Dolan for were GM decisions. Do we really need to rehash the dumb moves the Bulls GMs have made ove the last ten plus years?

What dumb things did the Bulls do besides letting BG and Tyrus Thomas go?