Playoff Roster?

[Omeletpants]

The best Combo has Baez at third base and Bryant to LF from and offensive and defensive standpoint. That means Soler has to sit

 

[SilenceS]

Jesse Rogers was on ESPN 1000 tonight and he said something about the way Maddon was talking , that Almora may be considered and it looks like it between Montero and Almora for that final spot..

Montero definitely not a lock, and I think his increase playing time now is because Maddon wants to see who going to take the last spots..


My argument isn't a roster spot with Contreras and Montero
I personally feel Contreras should and will start as Catcher with everyone but Lester..

If I'm right, then there no point of having Montero on the bench wasting a roster spot if they go with LaStella and Coghlan as the LH bats..
Montero if he not starting, provides nothing for them off the bench

I'd rather the bring someone like Almora who they can use as a PR or even a defensive replacement if needed late.


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Len and JD just said they believe all three catchers will be on the playoff roster. I do not think Contreras is catching all of them. Im not exactly sure why you think its such a lock. His bat has been terrible as well. He will play in the playoffs, but I doubt everyday or even just sit when Lester starts.

 

[CSF77]

Len and JD just said they believe all three catchers will be on the playoff roster. I do not think Contreras is catching all of them. Im not exactly sure why you think its such a lock. His bat has been terrible as well. He will play in the playoffs, but I doubt everyday or even just sit when Lester starts.

Post ASG:
Contreras .702 OPS, Montenero .699,

Ross .857

So should Ross be starting by this logic?

 

[SilenceS]

Post ASG:
Contreras .702 OPS, Montenero .699,

Ross .857

So should Ross be starting by this logic?

Ross is going to start. Also, I'm not sure your point. Contreras is not proven at the plate. He keeps pushing he is such a better hitter. He hasn't been. Montero also has been getting on base.


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[CSF77]

The best Combo has Baez at third base and Bryant to LF from and offensive and defensive standpoint. That means Soler has to sit

Post ASG: Soler .954 OPS.

Ranks:
Bryant .992 Soler .954, Ross .857, Rizzo .834, Russell .757, Szczur .756, Zobrist .746, Contreras .702, Montero .699, Fowler .694, Baez .685. Baez has 3 BB in 149 AB's in the 2nd half which is killing his OPS.

So If... you would use facts to back your opinions it would be nice.

 

[CSF77]

Ross is going to start. Also, I'm not sure your point. Contreras is not proven at the plate. He keeps pushing he is such a better hitter. He hasn't been. Montero also has been getting on base.


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I argee. It is pretty much fan boy stuff. But like I was saying by that logic you start Ross over the other 2.

 

[Omeletpants]

Post ASG: Soler .954 OPS.

Ranks:
Bryant .992 Soler .954, Ross .857, Rizzo .834, Russell .757, Szczur .756, Zobrist .746, Contreras .702, Montero .699, Fowler .694, Baez .685. Baez has 3 BB in 149 AB's in the 2nd half which is killing his OPS.

So If... you would use facts to back your opinions it would be nice.

You have selectively chosen the ASG as your standard. I use the entire year and when you combine defense a Bryant/Baez match up beats Soler and anything else.

 

[chibears55]

Post ASG:
Contreras .702 OPS, Montenero .699,

Ross .857

So should Ross be starting by this logic?

Your numbers are for small sample size in GP/AB for Ross and Montero..

My logic is pretty much going by whose been starting at catcher the 2nd half

Ross 11 GS shows he only being used to catch Lester

Montero 17 GS and only 9 since Aug 1st mainly because he has done nothing offensively and struggled defensively.
( yes his last 2 starts were good)

Contreras 22 starts as Catcher most of which came since Aug 1st as he started Catching Arrieta along with Hendricks Hammel and Lackey


I'm going by who Maddon been putting behind the plate getting work in with the starters and a rhythm with them.
I would think Maddon would stick with the Catcher that been catching Arrieta Lackey and Hendricks for the past 2 months and not put Montero back there after basically sitting the last 2 months.

Yes I'm a Contreras fan but this I why I think its a sure thing that Contreras will catch Arrieta Lackey and Hendricks come playoff.


As far as what announcers said...
Of course their gonna think that all 3 will be on roster but they also left an opening that it might not..

I will say Montero might play his way into roster these last couple weeks but only as a LH bench guy if he knocks out Coghlan or LaStella but IMO I think right now it probably between him and Almora for that final spot and if it were my choice, I'd choose Almora.

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[CSF77]

You have selectively chosen the ASG as your standard. I use the entire year and when you combine defense a Bryant/Baez match up beats Soler and anything else.

Used it due to Soler being injured for 1. 2 first half stats weigh less than 2nd half when looking at the play offs.

 

[CSF77]

Joe is in love with D. I doubt they add him. Heyward has proven to be his equal in CF
If they need to go there

 

[Omeletpants]

Used it due to Soler being injured for 1. 2 first half stats weigh less than 2nd half when looking at the play offs.

In your mind. You criticize me but then use your personal and selective criteria as the basis. Nice

 

[CSF77]

Your numbers are for small sample size in GP/AB for Ross and Montero..

My logic is pretty much going by whose been starting at catcher the 2nd half

Ross 11 GS shows he only being used to catch Lester

Montero 17 GS and only 9 since Aug 1st mainly because he has done nothing offensively and struggled defensively.
( yes his last 2 starts were good)

Contreras 22 starts as Catcher most of which came since Aug 1st as he started Catching Arrieta along with Hendricks Hammel and Lackey


I'm going by who Maddon been putting behind the plate getting work in with the starters and a rhythm with them.
I would think Maddon would stick with the Catcher that been catching Arrieta Lackey and Hendricks for the past 2 months and not put Montero back there after basically sitting the last 2 months.

Yes I'm a Contreras fan but this I why I think its a sure thing that Contreras will catch Arrieta Lackey and Hendricks come playoff.


As far as what announcers said...
Of course their gonna think that all 3 will be on roster but they also left an opening that it might not..

I will say Montero might play his way into roster these last couple weeks but only as a LH bench guy if he knocks out Coghlan or LaStella but IMO I think right now it probably between him and Almora for that final spot and if it were my choice, I'd choose Almora.

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Simple as L vs R SP. add to it if a running team you want a hose behind the plate.

He should be starting next year. But seeing how it is his first play offs I doubt they bump Montero.

My line up I feel is pretty close at this moment. Thing can change this month.

 

[CSF77]

In your mind. You criticize me but then use your personal and selective criteria as the basis. Nice

Not really. It is like weighing Jakes first half and his so so 2nd half and saying he is your #1 over Kyle. Most of his wins came during the first half. Kyle has been consistent all year long and finally started collecting wins later on.

What matters more. Apr hot streak or Sept streak. Depends when the games really matter. Sept is more relavent than Apr

Just like talking about Soler. Start of the year he was a clunker. When down. I was on the kick him to the curb bandwagon.

But what did he do? He produced to a .942 OPS over the 2nd half and I shut up when presented with that fact.

It is just common sense. What a player is doing at the moment matters more than what they did 3 months ago.

 

[Omeletpants]

Not really. It is like weighing Jakes first half and his so so 2nd half and saying he is your #1 over Kyle. Most of his wins came during the first half. Kyle has been consistent all year long and finally started collecting wins later on.

What matters more. Apr hot streak or Sept streak. Depends when the games really matter. Sept is more relavent than Apr

Just like talking about Soler. Start of the year he was a clunker. When down. I was on the kick him to the curb bandwagon.

But what did he do? He produced to a .942 OPS over the 2nd half and I shut up when presented with that fact.

It is just common sense. What a player is doing at the moment matters more than what they did 3 months ago.

Don't buy it. That's why when the HOF judges a player they look at an entire career that may last 15-20 years and not what happened in the final September. Once again you are selectively choosing stat parameters to support your argument.

 

[SilenceS]

Don't buy it. That's why when the HOF judges a player they look at an entire career that may last 15-20 years and not what happened in the final September. Once again you are selectively choosing stat parameters to support your argument.

You said it doesnt matter how you start. Its how you finish. Are you flip flopping again? You going from a soft boiled egg to a hard boiled eh?

 

[Omeletpants]

You said it doesnt matter how you start. Its how you finish. Are you flip flopping again? You going from a soft boiled egg to a hard boiled eh?

prove i said that

 

[SilenceS]

prove i said that

I can prove your quote in my sig


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[Parade_Rain]

Don't buy it. That's why when the HOF judges a player they look at an entire career that may last 15-20 years and not what happened in the final September. Once again you are selectively choosing stat parameters to support your argument.

The Hall of Fame hasn't ever coached a game in the playoffs, let alone any other game for that matter. Not even an exhibition.

 

[CSF77]

Don't buy it. That's why when the HOF judges a player they look at an entire career that may last 15-20 years and not what happened in the final September. Once again you are selectively choosing stat parameters to support your argument.

Don't buy it. That's why when the HOF judges a player they look at an entire career that may last 15-20 years and not what happened in the final September. Once again you are selectively choosing stat parameters to support your argument.

What does that have to do with 2016's play off roster?

That is the thread title. Not who will be a HOF player when they retire.

 

[CSF77]

And I do not buy Soler over his career. He is Mr now though.

He is better in a LF platoon with Schwarber next year and starting when Schwarber DH's.

Too injury prone for my tastes but with limited playing time it lessens the wear and tear