Playoff seeding looking better for Bulls

[pinkizdead]

Anthony Parker is a shooter man. His career three-point percentage is 3% higher than Korver's. And this season he is only shooting 2% less than Korver from there.

stats aren't going to capture everything homes. BUT, if you look at the stat's you find the answer as to why the stats are lying. sample sizes are far too different.

If you look at it, korver's attempts more 3's a year than parker. Plus korver's been in the league way longer than parker. the sample size is bigger.

korver has 2,361 3pa. parker has 1,260 3pa.

saying parker's career percentage is better seems a bit unfair to korver, don't you think ?

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

stats aren't going to capture everything homes. BUT, if you look at the stat's you find the answer as to why the stats are lying. sample sizes are far too different.

If you look at it, korver's attempts more 3's a year than parker. Plus korver's been in the league way longer than parker. the sample size is bigger.

korver has 2,361 3pa. parker has 1,260 3pa.

saying parker's career percentage is better seems a bit unfair to korver, don't you think ?

While that is true, you also should remember that Anthony Parker is widely considered to be one of the best pure shooters in the NBA. I don't believe that the Bulls would be losing a great deal of shooting if they swabbed Korver for Parker.

 

[pinkizdead]

and tim duncan and t-mac are an allstars.

 

[houheffna]

While that is true, you also should remember that Anthony Parker is widely considered to be one of the best pure shooters in the NBA. I don't believe that the Bulls would be losing a great deal of shooting if they swabbed Korver for Parker.

Looking at these stats, it seems Parker compares more to Bogans than Korver...and Parker is WIDELY considered one of the best pure shooters...you took a poll? Because I think he is widely considered very mediocre...and widely known as old...but that is just me...

Player Comparison Finder | Basketball-Reference.com

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

and tim duncan and t-mac are an allstars.

No need to be a dipshit. You can waddle around my points all you want, I guess.

Tim Duncan > Kevin Love and when did I say T-Mac was an all-star. He's just not a Special person like J.R. Smith.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Looking at these stats, it seems Parker compares more to Bogans than Korver...and Parker is WIDELY considered one of the best pure shooters...you took a poll? Because I think he is widely considered very mediocre...and widely known as old...but that is just me...

Player Comparison Finder | Basketball-Reference.com

Even you didn't know he was 35 until the trade possibility came up. That doesn't exactly scream out "widely considered" to me either.

I've heard in plenty of Cavs' games/youtube videos that he is considered to be one of the top three-point shooters. And when you average 43% from three-point range for your career, that is still very good no matter what way you shake it.

 

[pinkizdead]

Even you didn't know he was 35 until the trade possibility came up. That doesn't exactly scream out "widely considered" to me either.

I've heard in plenty of Cavs' games/youtube videos that he is considered to be one of the top three-point shooters. And when you average 43% from three-point range for your career, that is still very good no matter what way you shake it.

out of the 5 years that he's shot the 3, he shot 39% twice. he shot 41% last year, His two years with toronto he shot 44/43%. 5 dollars says he shoots around 40% 39% for the rest of his career. I'm not saying that's bad, but that's not the top.

 

[pinkizdead]

No need to be a dipshit. You can waddle around my points all you want, I guess.

Tim Duncan > Kevin Love and when did I say T-Mac was an all-star. He's just not a Special person like J.R. Smith.

you're points aren't backed up with any analysis. it's hard not to criticize your conclusions instead of your premises.

 

[pinkizdead]

Looking at these stats, it seems Parker compares more to Bogans than Korver...and Parker is WIDELY considered one of the best pure shooters...you took a poll? Because I think he is widely considered very mediocre...and widely known as old...but that is just me...

Player Comparison Finder | Basketball-Reference.com

i like gordon more than johnson. i had to throw that in there, cause we're agreeing too much as of late.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

you're points aren't backed up with any analysis. it's hard not to criticize your conclusions instead of your premises.

There was plenty of analysis about those points in the week Houf and I were going back and forth. Now, I know you don't think Zach Randolph is a great player just because he can put up 20+ and 10+ on a regular basis, do you?

Anyway... Love/Duncan/McGrady/J.R. Smith aside...

The Bulls are in need of a SG much more than anything right now. I'm not claiming that Anthony Parker is this unbelievable talent or anything absurd like that. The Bulls have 1 great PG, 1 very good SF, 2 very good PFs, 1 very good C, a solid back-up SF (Korver), and 1 semi-decent SG (Brewer). I think if we got Anthony Parker the minutes would look close to this:

Rose (37), Watson (11)
Parker (20), Brewer (24)
Deng (37), Korver (15)
Boozer (35), Gibson (20)
Noah (33), Thomas (8)

I just think Parker is a better fit for what the Bulls need right now than what Korver is...

 

[houheffna]

Even you didn't know he was 35 until the trade possibility came up. That doesn't exactly scream out "widely considered" to me either.

I've heard in plenty of Cavs' games/youtube videos that he is considered to be one of the top three-point shooters. And when you average 43% from three-point range for your career, that is still very good no matter what way you shake it.

Wait, hold up...who said I was part of the NBA think tank? I am sure those in the know understand that the man is past whatever prime he has had physically. I didn't know that, it was a strike against him...a major strike.

What is the truth is the Bulls think he is worth a 2nd rd pick, the Cavaliers, from what I have read, tend to agree that is fair market value...and you want to give up a viable part of the team for him? That is just senseless. You overvalued a 35-year old journeyman wing player...you should admit that and move on...

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Wait, hold up...who said I was part of the NBA think tank? I am sure those in the know understand that the man is past whatever prime he has had physically. I didn't know that, it was a strike against him...a major strike.

What is the truth is the Bulls think he is worth a 2nd rd pick, the Cavaliers, from what I have read, tend to agree that is fair market value...and you want to give up a viable part of the team for him? That is just senseless. You overvalued a 35-year old journeyman wing player...you should admit that and move on...

This is a guy who can be pretty invaluable for the Bulls. An overall solid SG would do them wonders, and they don't have that right now. Parker is that, even though he doesn't have too long before he collapses.

 

[pinkizdead]

This is a guy who can be pretty invaluable for the Bulls. An overall solid SG would do them wonders, and they don't have that right now. Parker is that, even though he doesn't have too long before he collapses.

you make him sound like an all star.

 

[pinkizdead]

There was plenty of analysis about those points in the week Houf and I were going back and forth. Now, I know you don't think Zach Randolph is a great player just because he can put up 20+ and 10+ on a regular basis, do you?

What are you talking about?

The Bulls are in need of a SG much more than anything right now. I'm not claiming that Anthony Parker is this unbelievable talent or anything absurd like that. The Bulls have 1 great PG, 1 very good SF, 2 very good PFs, 1 very good C, a solid back-up SF (Korver), and 1 semi-decent SG (Brewer). I think if we got Anthony Parker the minutes would look close to this:

Rose (37), Watson (11)
Parker (20), Brewer (24)
Deng (37), Korver (15)
Boozer (35), Gibson (20)
Noah (33), Thomas (8)

I just think Parker is a better fit for what the Bulls need right now than what Korver is...

if it takes a 2nd round pick, i'm not gonna argue with that. I'm just really not gonna go hooten and hollerin into the streets just because we got anthony parker.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

What are you talking about?



if it takes a 2nd round pick, i'm not gonna argue with that. I'm just really not gonna go hooten and hollerin into the streets just because we got anthony parker.

If you read our exchange then you would know.

And The reason I would go hootin' and hollerin' is simple.... The Bulls are not far away from being legitimate title contenders this year. And I really want to see them win a championship. They need a guy who complements Rose, Deng, Boozer, and Noah. Parker would be that guy who would give them the most solid defense for big minutes in the post season. And he's a guy who can stretch the floor with his shooting. Korver has been good for the Bulls but Parker is a true SG while Korver isn't.

 

[pinkizdead]

If you read our exchange then you would know.

And The reason I would go hootin' and hollerin' is simple.... The Bulls are not far away from being legitimate title contenders this year. And I really want to see them win a championship. They need a guy who complements Rose, Deng, Boozer, and Noah. Parker would be that guy who would give them the most solid defense for big minutes in the post season. And he's a guy who can stretch the floor with his shooting. Korver has been good for the Bulls but Parker is a true SG while Korver isn't.

parker doesn't put us over the top. he makes us suck less, if and only if, we play bogans less. If parker takes away brewer's minutes and korver's minutes, he actually might make us a worse team.

You think parker is going to be able to guard wade on the defensive side? i think he's going to be raped with a basketball.

 

[houheffna]

If you read our exchange then you would know.

And The reason I would go hootin' and hollerin' is simple.... The Bulls are not far away from being legitimate title contenders this year. And I really want to see them win a championship. They need a guy who complements Rose, Deng, Boozer, and Noah. Parker would be that guy who would give them the most solid defense for big minutes in the post season. And he's a guy who can stretch the floor with his shooting. Korver has been good for the Bulls but Parker is a true SG while Korver isn't.

you are not beating Miami or Boston because you got Parker man...especially at this point...and again, Parker is not a better defender than Brewer. You are way over the top...

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

parker doesn't put us over the top. he makes us suck less, if and only if, we play bogans less. If parker takes away brewer's minutes and korver's minutes, he actually might make us a worse team.

You think parker is going to be able to guard wade on the defensive side? i think he's going to be raped with a basketball.

Mainly that's what Parker would be for is voiding Bogans' minutes. He wouldn't take all of Korver's minutes either because they play 2 different positions.

Who can guard Dwyane Wade without getting destroyed anyway?

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

you are not beating Miami or Boston because you got Parker man...especially at this point...and again, Parker is not a better defender than Brewer. You are way over the top...

Parker is about as good of a defender as Ronnie Brewer except he's not anywhere near as good of an athletic scorer in transition and won't get nearly as many steals. We all know that Brewer has an ugly spin on his shot, too.

I don't think the Bulls are beating Boston or Miami either with or without Parker, but I do believe he gives them a slightly better chance for an upset. That's big in my book.

 

[FQD1911]

If Cleveland would want to do a Parker-for-Korver swap, you do it. There's not much question involved there.

too early for April Fool's jokes.