Ray Emery invited to Hawks camp

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I watched Emery play quite a few times on the dish last seaon and he was really solid for Anaheim, so I don't see this as "picking through the trash." In fact, the other day I was looking at what's left for goalie depth and the names were: Pascal Leclaire, Marty Turco, Jeff Deslauriers, Eric Ersberg and Ray Emery. I would have been interested in the Hawks adding LeClaire, Ersberg or Emery but Emery seemed like the best fit because he gives us a shot at depth now and a proven guy...but is not young enough to blot out Salak's chances to get into the NHL during his current contract, which keeps him MOTIVATED! This is a good move, IMO.



Agreed. It also shuts those naysayers up with the "We don't have a backup goalie" excuse. Now we have the potential of one. If Salak beats Emery for the backup job, I think that this will keep these same naysayers quiet.



Excellent move here. Giving Salak competition is always good for him.
 

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I watched Emery play quite a few times on the dish last seaon and he was really solid for Anaheim, so I don't see this as "picking through the trash." In fact, the other day I was looking at what's left for goalie depth and the names were: Pascal Leclaire, Marty Turco, Jeff Deslauriers, Eric Ersberg and Ray Emery. I would have been interested in the Hawks adding LeClaire, Ersberg or Emery but Emery seemed like the best fit because he gives us a shot at depth now and a proven guy...but is not young enough to blot out Salak's chances to get into the NHL during his current contract, which keeps him MOTIVATED! This is a good move, IMO.



Add Ty Conklin to your list.



Leclaire is injury prone. Maybe Ersberg.



Emery is a proven NHL goalie, who played well for Anaheim. Didn't hear of any issues with him in the room, either. If Hiller is over his vertigo, that explains them letting Ray go.



I think it's a nice move.
 

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I believe he did. I had forgotton that.



Yep he did. As a result of having shoddy backups in McIlhinney and Ellis, thats why they signed Emery originally. Apparently, they're happy with Ellis backing up Hiller.
 

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I really had doubts that Salak would be handed the back-up role, I'm glad they brought someone in that would give him a run for his money. Worth the look.



Ok, I need some help here. I will admit that the one way and two way contract issue has always been fuzzy to me. So help me learn here. The scenario is;



Salak is signed to a one way contract for $600K (I believe that was the number) and now we have Emery competing for the back up job. What if Emery does better then him and the Hawks sign Emery to a contract, what happens to Salak in regards to Rockford/ Chicago and a one way contract?
 

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I've never understood that either... does a one way contract mean he can only play in either the AHL OR NHL all year unless injuries occur?



Or does it have to do with waivers?



Halp!
 

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One-way contracts only mean that they get the same salary in the AHL as they would have playing the NHL. Salak is also waiver-exempt (not enough games in the NHL) so he can be sent down to Rockford if it turns out Emery outplays him in training camp and the exhibition games. I like this situation. There was little competition for the backup position and this ought to make things interesting. Emery also seems to have settled down and started to take his career more seriously after the injuries and drama, so I don't expect any chemistry issues if he sticks around.
 

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One-way contracts only mean that they get the same salary in the AHL as they would have playing the NHL. Salak is also waiver-exempt (not enough games in the NHL) so he can be sent down to Rockford if it turns out Emery outplays him in training camp and the exhibition games.



That is exactly the answer I was looking for. Thank you. Waiver exempt is automatic because he has not played enough games in the NHL or is something to do with the way the contract is written?



I see this as being huge for Rockford as well. My gut feeling that he starts the season in Rockford is still intact.
 

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I've never understood that either... does a one way contract mean he can only play in either the AHL OR NHL all year unless injuries occur?



Or does it have to do with waivers?



Halp!

I do not understand 1-way completely either, but I do believe that if a player is on an ELC (Entry level contract) and or is below some age he does not need to pass waivers. I tried to research it once and found the language confusing.
 

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The whole waiver thing is a little goofy. It has nothing to do with one-way or two-way deals, many people think the two-way deals mean being exempt from waivers mainly cause that's what EA Sports does with their NHL game. Players are eligible for waivers if they meet one of two criteria. A certain number of years played since the player signed their pro contract based on the age when they signed and position, and a certain number of games played. Salak for example gets four years of waiver exemption(meaning he doesn't need to pass through waivers)because he signed his first pro contract at age 22, so using that criteria he is exempt from waivers until the age of 26. However the other criteria states that once a player plays a certain number of professional games they must pass through waivers, this is also based on the age when they signed a contract and position. Since Salak signed at age 22 and is a goalie that number of games is 60. Games that count are any NHL regular season and playoff game, and for players over the age of 20 this game count also counts AHL regular season and playoff games as well as games played internationally when on loan from an NHL team(Florida loaned Salak to Farjestads last year). Salak has played in 82 games that count towards waiver eligibility. Because he has exceeded 60 games he is eligible for waivers.



Long story short, yes Salak has to pass through waivers. However waivers don't take effect until 12 days before the start of the regular season, so they could send him down early.
 

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I love this move also. The only question I had prior to this was our back up, many were saying Salak is great, but in my eyes I though that backup spot was our possible weak point. Thanks Stan for reassuring me with this move. I think in our quest for the Cup can not have any hic-ups. By this move if signed



A) We get a good backup with playoffs experience.

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A solid one/two punch.

c) Depth we don't worry about.
 

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Liking the move (Although I wouldn't mind Turco being the guy to give Salak a push), but someone better warn the trainer to NOT put a hat on Emery while he's on the bench.
 

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The whole waiver thing is a little goofy. It has nothing to do with one-way or two-way deals, many people think the two-way deals mean being exempt from waivers mainly cause that's what EA Sports does with their NHL game. Players are eligible for waivers if they meet one of two criteria. A certain number of years played since the player signed their pro contract based on the age when they signed and position, and a certain number of games played. Salak for example gets four years of waiver exemption(meaning he doesn't need to pass through waivers)because he signed his first pro contract at age 22, so using that criteria he is exempt from waivers until the age of 26. However the other criteria states that once a player plays a certain number of professional games they must pass through waivers, this is also based on the age when they signed a contract and position. Since Salak signed at age 22 and is a goalie that number of games is 60. Games that count are any NHL regular season and playoff game, and for players over the age of 20 this game count also counts AHL regular season and playoff games as well as games played internationally when on loan from an NHL team(Florida loaned Salak to Farjestads last year). Salak has played in 82 games that count towards waiver eligibility. Because he has exceeded 60 games he is eligible for waivers.



Long story short, yes Salak has to pass through waivers. However waivers don't take effect until 12 days before the start of the regular season, so they could send him down early.





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LOL.... I think I get it.



Thanks
 

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Everytime I think it's safe to go back into the water something like "Emery to the Blackhawks" appears and I retreat.
 

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Emery has always intrigued me....I really like this move it seems like a win/win for the Hawks, if he is good that gives Salak more time in the AHL (which I would prefer) OR he pushes Salak to play very well to make the NHL squad.
 

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Everytime I think it's safe to go back into the water something like "Emery to the Blackhawks" appears and I retreat.



And why is that? Don't see the big issue anyone could have... he's just trying out. Id rather have him as backup than Salak who I think needs consistent playing time somewhere... namely in Rockford.



The Hawks have nothing to lose here and don't know whyy anyone would take issue with it.
 

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Yeah, this is just a try-out contract, it's not like the Hawks signed him to a multi-year contract.
 

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Emery has always intrigued me....I really like this move it seems like a win/win for the Hawks, if he is good that gives Salak more time in the AHL (which I would prefer) OR he pushes Salak to play very well to make the NHL squad.

True...that is another readon to like this. It puts pressure on Salak and we find out how he plays with pressure on him. That is a good thing to know! I mean...look no father than the hilarious photoshop above! BobbyLou plays pretty good until you put him under pressure. Grin.
 

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Add Ty Conklin to your list.



Leclaire is injury prone. Maybe Ersberg.



Emery is a proven NHL goalie, who played well for Anaheim. Didn't hear of any issues with him in the room, either. If Hiller is over his vertigo, that explains them letting Ray go.



I think it's a nice move.

Ty Conklin signed in Detroit, 1 year 750k about 2 weeks back.
 

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