Robin Ventura Named White Sox Manager

[Capt. Serious]

Anyone know when they'll introduce him at a press conference?

 

[Uman85]

Anyone know when they'll introduce him at a press conference?

Tuesday afternoon supposedly.

 

[GaelicSoxFan]

 

[Gunzaan]

Wow... just WOW.

I really, really, really hope that it works out because I love the White Sox and I loved Robin Ventura growing up. I've seen him in a lot of games and he brought it every day.

That said, and yes - I dislike KW - this smells of KW preparing for his own future. His contract ends in 2 years. Hiring a super newbie manager screams that he is admiting the team needs a few years to rebuild. That gives him some time to tinker with the farm system and the club. Two years from now, he WANTS to be able to say the team/farm looks solid and the manager either worked or didn't work but he was a rookie.

I really hope that my sense of smell is wrong.

 

[brett05]

Um Ryno isn't exactly loaded with managerial experience.

The dude would be a rookie at the MLB level still.

You can't be helped. You give zero credit to what Ryne has done as a minor league manager which for those that don't know counts for a lot. :Obama:

 

[HawkyTalky]

You can't be helped. You give zero credit to what Ryne has done as a minor league manager which for those that don't know counts for a lot. :Obama:

PLEASE for the LOVE OF GOD PLEASE put the Ryne Sandberg love to rest....

 

[HawkyTalky]

Damn bro, relax. Getting your panties in a bunch. :dunno:

Yeah OK Bro.

As a sidenote, do you have OCD or multiple personalities? Because it seems like you change Avatars and Signatures every hour on the hour?

 

[X]

I'm not going to argue.

Context is difficult to judge on a message board. But, what you posted seemed to be more than just a little sarcastic. I apologize if I misjudged it.

Go ahead and pout and take your ball and go home all you want...I simply asked nicely for the backhanded comments to end.

lmmfao

http://www.chicitysports.com/forum/365884-post37.html

And you're a jackass....go back to the Cubs forum where you belong you asshat.

The guy is an all-star, gold-glove winning player, who has always been a consumate professional and this is how morons like you choose to remember him.

I believe there's some bleachers calling your name....oh snap that's right....for Ferris Bueller.

 

[jcrab66]

all i have to say about this is WTF??????????

 

[HawkyTalky]

lmmfao

http://www.chicitysports.com/forum/365884-post37.html

Reading comprehension is obviously not a talent that you possess.

The posts you quoted were directed at two different people and therefore taken out of context.

One was directed at Rice Cube and the other at Rick and as a result, are not one and the same.

Before you decide to call someone out, get your facts straight OK buddy?

Man, I'm getting sick of the verbal sparring with the know-it-all, wiseguy Cub fans around here.

 

[AE23]

Ozzie Guillen had little to no managerial experience when he was hired by the White Sox, IIRC. It might not have ended well, but Ozzie did win a World Series, for what that is worth.

I think in basketball if you hire a guy like Robin Ventura (Vinny Del Negro?), you have problems because the guy will have no credibility with the players, and the players run the show in the NBA. In football if you hire a guy like Robin Ventura (Mike Singletary with the Niners?), you have problems because a football coach is singularly important to the outcome of a game.

But in baseball, I don't think its that big of a problem. To me, baseball "strategy" is WAY overrated, as are the impact of baseball managers. I really like Jim Leyland, and I respect Tony LaRussa in a Pat Riley way, but they have very little impact over the course of a 162-game season. The only thing a baseball manager can do is lose games by sticking with ineffective players and repeatedly using the same strategies that have proven to fail on a regular basis. Ozzie did both these things last season, and thats why he was let go.

So, my reaction to the Ventura hiring is the same as my reaction to all baseball manager hirings...who cares?

This ^^
Kirk Gibson seems to be working out well in AZ. I know he was a bench coach, but ... hey

 

[X]

Reading comprehension is obviously not a talent that you possess.

The posts you quoted were directed at two different people and therefore taken out of context.

One was directed at Rice Cube and the other at Rick and as a result, are not one and the same.

Before you decide to call someone out, get your facts straight OK buddy?

Man, I'm getting sick of the verbal sparring with the know-it-all, wiseguy Cub fans around here.

lmao. you're just attacking cubs fans b/c they're cubs fans. more sox fans have had negative things to say about the hiring than cubs fans...but by all means, keep being shitty. it's humorous.


(insert "cubs haven't won in forever" post below.)

 

[Rick]

I'm not going to argue.

Context is difficult to judge on a message board. But, what you posted seemed to be more than just a little sarcastic. I apologize if I misjudged it.

Go ahead and pout and take your ball and go home all you want...I simply asked nicely for the backhanded comments to end.

and your "WOW!!! you're clever!!!" comment wasn't meant to be "more than just a little sarcastic"? You're the one who's sulking and acting like a d-bag that Cubs fans are posting here...it's not even April yet and you're in Cubs fan vs Sox fan meatball mode...

 

[Capt. Serious]

Coop, Baines, ???

Wondering who else they bring in?

 

[HawkyTalky]

lmao. you're just attacking cubs fans b/c they're cubs fans. more sox fans have had negative things to say about the hiring than cubs fans...but by all means, keep being shitty. it's humorous.


(insert "cubs haven't won in forever" post below.)

and your "WOW!!! you're clever!!!" comment wasn't meant to be "more than just a little sarcastic"? You're the one who's sulking and acting like a d-bag that Cubs fans are posting here...it's not even April yet and you're in Cubs fan vs Sox fan meatball mode...

Again, both of you need to get your facts straight before you accuse me of going all Cubs vs Sox.

Here is what some of my recent posts on these boards look like concening the Cubs:

http://www.chicitysports.com/forum/...ursday-friday-working-comp-14.html#post365587

Crane Kenney has been the odd man out for a little while now. The reason? The Cubs are going to offer the presidency to Epstein. The fact that Kenney isn't going to Boston is even more evidence of that.

As a Sox fan, I applaud the Cubs for what they're trying to do. It looks like they might finally be headed in the right direction. It's good for baseball and the city of Chicago if they are indeed going for the jugular here.

_

I've been a DIE-HARD White Sox fan for over 20 years now (Since 1991 to be exact.) Throughout that time I've been your typical Sox fan who despised all things Cubs.

But, now that I'm getting a little older my dislike for the Cubs is gone. I mean completely gone....kaput. I don't hate the Cubs anymore and as a matter of fact I actually wish them and their fans well.

I think part of it is living on the East Coast for the last 8 years+ and being so far away from the Sox-Cubs rivalry. Another part of it is finding out just how overbearing East Coast fans are about their teams.

They make the most overbearing of Cubs fans seem tame. It's got me to the point where I love ALL things Chicago and i'd rather see a team with "Chicago" on their uniforms beat ANY team from the east coast. (Even the Cubs.)

So what is your personal take on all of this? Do you hate the Cubs?

What do you think about my gradual shift away from hating the Cubs after hating them for over 20 years? ________________

As I've gotten older, wiser, and more mature, I just can't be a part of this stupid rivalry anymore. I hope BOTH teams do well...I really do.

Forgive me for expecting/demanding the same type of respect from Cubs fans in THIS thread. I have nothing against the Cubs....I was merely making observations about the jagbag posts from Cubs fans in this thread....and taking offense to them at the same time.

 

[Capt. Serious]

Dude take a..

and relax.

 

[Rick]

Forgive me for expecting/demanding the same type of respect from Cubs fans in THIS thread. I have nothing against the Cubs....I was merely making observations about the jagbag posts from Cubs fans in this thread....and taking offense to them at the same time.

I don't care about your expectations or demands, especially when I didn't rip the White Sox. I called Ventura "Robin Del Negro" because, like Vinny Del Negro, he was hired to do a job that he had no previous experience in at any level.

Take offense to what I say or what anyone else says, makes no difference to me except that it's humoring me.

"I'm taking offense to the jagbag posts from the Cubs fan in this thread" (talking in "Da Superfans" Chicago voice) lol...give me a break dude, relax. No one here is talking about your mother so there's no need for your ass to be as red as it is about this...

 

[HawkyTalky]

I don't care about your expectations or demands, especially when I didn't rip the White Sox. I called Ventura "Robin Del Negro" because, like Vinny Del Negro, he was hired to do a job that he had no previous experience in at any level.

Take offense to what I say or what anyone else says, makes no difference to me except that it's humoring me.

"I'm taking offense to the jagbag posts from the Cubs fan in this thread" (talking in "Da Superfans" Chicago voice) lol...give me a break dude, relax. No one here is talking about your mother so there's no need for your ass to be as red as it is about this...

This will be my last response about this.

You and a couple of others see things one way and I see them another way. It's Ok to disagree and if we allow this to continue, it'll never end.

So I'm walking a way with a have a nice day....and you have the right to your opinion.

 

[Montanaro]

The best thing a manager needs to be able to do is to understand his players. I think Robin can connect with them and hopefully keep them motivated (see Boston players drinking and becoming complacent)

 

[Capt. Serious]

Another positive is that you'll be able to understand him talking. :lol: