Rose To See Specialist Monday(Update: MRI Reveals No Structural Damage)

[FirstTimer]

my friends got a herniated disc in his lower back and it doesn't bother him at all.. or not much. His doctors told him he doesn't need to do anything and to come back if he starts to feel pain or numbness in his legs. That was a couple of years ago and he's been the same. So it depends on how bad it is and it's different for everyone.

Does your friend play NBA basketball?

If not then it's apples to oranges.

 

[Glide2keva]

A Herniated Disc can cause a bunch of different problems. The most serious being a impingement of the Sciatic nerve caused by a sequestration of the inter-vertebral discs of the vertebra. This is basically a space occupying lesion (herniated disc) occupying the space meant for the nerve and facet joints of the vertebra.

This results in a numb, tingly, painfully debilitating feeling in the affected hip, leg and down to the feet. The sciatic nerve is the largest nerve in the body and this can be a serious problem. So let's hope that it's muscular because that is more easily treatable.

 

[FirstTimer]

Congrats to Glide.

He knows how to use Wikipedia.

 

[houheffna]

Congrats to Glide.

He knows how to use Wikipedia.

HA! Hilarious...

I am giving him the benefit of the doubt and hoping that he knows what he is talking about and went to medical school or actually had the injury, and not just cutting and pasting without citing some kind of source for the material.

 

[BNB]

Does your friend play NBA basketball?

If not then it's apples to oranges.

does it even matter? He can play basketball for 3 straight hours and feel fine. He also works at Home Depot and does heavy lifting. Feels fine. He said his doctor advised him not to put too much stress on his back, but he didn't listen.. and still feels fine. Might have problems in the future.. but that's his decision.

i don't see what playing basketball in the NBA has anything to do with it. You can put just as much, maybe even more stress on your back even if you don't play a professional sport. It affects people differently.

I also found this:

"Ironically, the severity of the pain is often unrelated to the extent of physical damage. For example, lower back spasms from a simple back strain can cause excruciating lower back pain that can make it difficult to walk or even stand, whereas a large herniated disc or completely degenerated disc can actually be completely painless."
http://www.spine-health.com/conditions/spine-anatomy/lower-back-anatomy

so an NBA player could have a herniated disc and not even know it. so it wouldn't even matter that he's in the NBA.

also, Rose could just have a bad muscle strain for all we know.

 

[FirstTimer]

does it even matter?

Yes.

Joe OfficeWorker having a herniated disc and Derick Rose having one are two completely different things.

Who do you think puts more stress on their back in a given day or over the course of a 3 hour game?

LOL at comparing some Home Depot hack to Derrick Rose.

My friend has had a herniated disc since HS and aggrevated it so badly during a flag football game a few years ago we had to take him off the field in the back of a Jeep Grand Cherokee.

I can post anectdotal evidence too!

so an NBA player could have a herniated disc and not even know it. so it wouldn't even matter that he's in the NBA.

Idiotic lapse in logic.

If Rose has one(which we don't know yet) it obviously matter that he's in the NBA. Because he needs it to heal enough to be an effective NBA basketball player, not help people at the local Home Depot.


Quit being a moron.

 

[BNB]

Yes.

Joe OfficeWorker having a herniated disc and Derick Rose having one are two completely different things.

Who do you think puts more stress on their back in a given day or over the course of a 3 hour game?

LOL at comparing some Home Depot hack to Derrick Rose.

playing basketball is playing basketball. Derrick Rose plays 36 MPG. He runs, plays defense, attacks the basket, etc. and practices + lifts [sometimes] throughout the season. When you play basketball, don't you do the same things? I do. People all around the world that aren't in the NBA can put just as much stress on their bodies playing in a basketball game.

My buddy works 30-40 hours a week constantly lifting shit and on his free time, plays basketball, works out, etc.

But yes.. Rose puts so much more stress on his body just because he's in the NBA. what?


You don't have to be in the NBA to put a lot stress on your back/body.

My friend has had a herniated disc since HS and aggrevated it so badly during a flag football game a few years ago we had to take him off the field in the back of a Jeep Grand Cherokee.

I can post anectdotal evidence too!

Just proves my point for how it affects people differently.

Idiotic lapse in logic.

If Rose has one(which we don't know yet) it obviously matter that he's in the NBA. Because he needs it to heal enough to be an effective NBA basketball player, not help people at the local Home Depot.


Quit being a moron.

right.. because only professional athletes need to be healthy enough to be effective in their job.

And My friend would have to be healthy enough to do his job too. Because if his back WAS killing him, he wouldn't be able to do his job.. since it require him to lift. If we wasn't able to, he'd have to take time off and not make money. So I'd say it matters to him.

A truck driver who has to unload boxes out of his truck has a back problem.. doesn't matter though, he's not in the NBA. It won't effect his job. oh wait.. yeah it will. He'll have to get heal enough to be able to lift boxes. This isn't a made up example either. It happened to my dad.


there's probably a number of other careers that require people to use their back.. and if they have back issues that causes a lot of pain, it'll effect their job.


and you took "doesn't matter that he's in the NBA" the wrong way. I was comparing the pain, or sometimes lack of pain, that is associated with the injury. If you have a herniated disk and you don't feel any pain, it doesn't matter if you're in the NBA because you wouldn't even know you had it. And if you were in the NBA and did feel pain, it would obviously effect your job the same way it effects people's jobs who aren't in the NBA.. until they're healthy enough to resume work.

 

[zack54attack]

He just needs to rest. Especially with the schedule the NBA has this season.

Might as well let him sit until after the All-Star break.

 

[FirstTimer]

playing basketball is playing basketball.

No it's not.

A YMCA rec league game is not the same as a high end college or HS game.

Are you insane?

Derrick Rose plays 36 MPG. He runs, plays defense, attacks the basket, etc. and practices + lifts [sometimes] throughout the season. When you play basketball, don't you do the same things? I do. People all around the world that aren't in the NBA can put just as much stress on their bodies playing in a basketball game.

That's idiotic. The amount of force that these guys exert on their bodies as a resul tof their muscles etc is nowhere near the average person playing a pickup game at the YMCA or something.

I'm not stupid enough to think I'm exerting the same amount of torque on my back when I play ball as when Derrick Rose does it.

Quit being a moron about it.

Seriously.

My buddy works 30-40 hours a week constantly lifting shit and on his free time, plays basketball, works out, etc.

And mine works 45 hours a week, coaches, plays ball, etc.

What the hell is your point?

But yes.. Rose puts so much more stress on his body just because he's in the NBA. what?

Quit being a dipshit.

You're the same type of idiot that got pissed when Cutler was seen walking on a torn MCL a week after the NFCCG. Or bitched because this onet ime in HS your friend played the HS State game on a torn MCL, why can't Cutler?!

You don't have to be in the NBA to put a lot stress on your back/body.

No shit you don't but NBA basketball exerts more force and stress on the body than playing rec league fucking basketball.

right.. because only professional athletes need to be healthy enough to be effective in their job.

Missed the point.

Try again.

And My friend would have to be healthy enough to do his job too.

Lifting shit for yoga bunnies at a Home Depot (LOL at that job anyways) =/= to playing NBA fucking basketball and having a bad back.

On top of this Inever said your buddy couldn't do his job if he had a bad back but Derrick Rose needs to go out and perform with some of the best athletes on the planet so range of motion/pain/etc come into play more than your friend who needs to out perfrom the latest college schlub looking for part tiem work for beer money.

and you took "doesn't matter that he's in the NBA" the wrong way.

No I didn't.

You're being a fool.

, it would obviously effect your job the same way it effects people's jobs who aren't in the NBA..

:rolling:


You're an idiot.

BRB going to go play in a YMCA game and compare it to the physical stress of playing in the NBA.

 

[FirstTimer]

He just needs to rest. Especially with the schedule the NBA has this season.

Might as well let him sit until after the All-Star break.

I don't know Zack. My friend who has a herniated disc played in a pick up game this weekend.

If he can do that, no reason Rose can't play some NBA games.

 

[zack54attack]

I don't know Zack. My friend who has a herniated disc played in a pick up game this weekend.

If he can do that, no reason Rose can't play some NBA games.

You friend HAS TO BE the MVP of the rec league.......right? lol

 

[FirstTimer]

You friend HAS TO BE the MVP of the rec league.......right? lol

Yea. Thing is he always gets shut down by this 6'8 guy with a bad hairline.

 

[RC_Skinny22]

K.C Johnson via Twitter:

Back specialist confirmed Bulls' diagnosis of DRose. Lower back spasms. Nothing structurally wrong with back. Muscular issue. Day-to-day.

 

[BNB]

No it's not.

A YMCA rec league game is not the same as a high end college or HS game.

Are you insane?

Did I use YMCA rec games or any other organized basketball games as my example? No. I said he played basketball... as in, we get guys together at the gym and play for a few hours. We play hard. Idk if you play with pussies.

Me driving into the lane and getting knocked on my ass would be the same as an NBA player driving to the lane and getting knocked on his ass. At the end of the day, you both got knocked on your ass. And obviously the NBA is tougher. But I said he played ball AND did other shit in one day which can be as physically demanding.

And mine works 45 hours a week, coaches, plays ball, etc.

What the hell is your point?

uhhhh... "You don't have to be in the NBA to put a lot stress on your back/body."

Quit being a dipshit.

You're the same type of idiot that got pissed when Cutler was seen walking on a torn MCL a week after the NFCCG. Or bitched because this onet ime in HS your friend played the HS State game on a torn MCL, why can't Cutler?!

HAHAHAHAH @ this. WOW.

Me implying that people can put a lot of stress on their bodies even though they're not in the NBA = me being a dipshit and bitching about Cutler when he was walking on an MCL. what?!?!?!

No. I was just implying that people can put a lot of stress on their bodies even though they don't play a pro sport.. which you replied "no shit" to in the next quote.

way to miss MY point.

I didn't even ***** about Cutler's injury fyi.

No shit you don't but NBA basketball exerts more force and stress on the body than playing rec league fucking basketball.

Too bad I wasn't talking about rec league basketball or just basketball itself. I was talking about playing basketball, working out and lifting heavy shit. Way to miss, or ignore my point again.

Lifting shit for yoga bunnies at a Home Depot (LOL at that job anyways) =/= to playing NBA fucking basketball and having a bad back.

On top of this Inever said your buddy couldn't do his job if he had a bad back but Derrick Rose needs to go out and perform with some of the best athletes on the planet so range of motion/pain/etc come into play more than your friend who needs to out perfrom the latest college schlub looking for part tiem work for beer money.

1st. why insult my buddy? He's a good guy and isn't even here. He's not looking for a part time job for beer money. He's had this job for 4 years and makes decent money and lives with his GF who's in the process of becoming a pharmacist. I'd say he's doing well.

2nd. both need their back to do their job. If their backs hurt, they can't do their job. Understand? Or should I say it in another way? Okay, I'll do it anyway. Bot the NBA and working at Home Depot are jobs. If you are hurt, you can't do your job. So while they are completely different jobs, the outcome is the same. Injury = not being able to work.

No I didn't.

You're being a fool.

So you're going to tell me what I meant when I said something? ha!

:rolling:


You're an idiot.

BRB going to go play in a YMCA game and compare it to the physical stress of playing in the NBA.

Good job and not knowing what I was talking about/ ignoring my point again! You're great at doing that.

 

[BNB]

I don't know Zack. My friend who has a herniated disc played in a pick up game this weekend.

If he can do that, no reason Rose can't play some NBA games.

WHAT?!?!!?

wow!!!

you are seriously lost my friend.

ignore that I said it effects people differently and that Rose may not even have a herniated disk and just put words in my mouth.

:clap:

 

[ChiTeez.com]

K.C Johnson via Twitter:

Saw that, hopefully that is the case!! Need him back, but need him back healthy!

 

[BNB]

K.C Johnson via Twitter:

good news!

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I've been trying to get my buddies to go along with a rec league for the past couple years now. A lot of work trying to get a herniated disk so you can collect workman's comp.

 

[Uman85]

good news!

GREAT news!

 

[BNB]

Prope missed the point too?