Rose To See Specialist Monday(Update: MRI Reveals No Structural Damage)

[clonetrooper264]

Prope missed the point too?

Prope be in

 

[BNB]

Prope be in

I hope so.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Prope be in

I'm not trolling at all. ChiTeez and I were having a nice back to back.

 

[zack54attack]

I've been trying to get my buddies to go along with a rec league for the past couple years now. A lot of work trying to get a herniated disk so you can collect workman's comp.

I may be white like Steve Blake, but I play better then him. You need me at PG... YOU NEED ME.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I may be white like Steve Blake, but I play better then him. You need me at PG... YOU NEED ME.

****, I'm the worst basketball player you'll ever see. I'll freely admit it. But damn't if I don't want to play in a rec league for some reason.

 

[Glide2keva]

HA! Hilarious...

I am giving him the benefit of the doubt and hoping that he knows what he is talking about and went to medical school or actually had the injury, and not just cutting and pasting without citing some kind of source for the material.

I typed that from memory. I took several courses in anatomy, physiology, pathology, kinesiology, etc. And I'm trained to treat or aid in the treatment of over 70 conditions. Disc herniations is one of them.

I don't copy and paste shit like that. I work with chiropractors and wellness centers in my area. So thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt. I don't expect anything from a troll like FT.

Its good that there is no structural damage to Rose's back.

 

[ChiTeez.com]

I'm not trolling at all. ChiTeez and I were having a nice back to back.

Prope is a good guy, just some good back and forth about our beloved Bulls! Happy to hear the MRI turned up nothing too terrible, just hoping he feels better. Again, we want a HEALTHY Rose!

 

[97Bulls]

Im with zach, id rest him for a while. The bulls are good enough to hold down the fort for a few weeks. I wouldn't mess with any kind of back pain

 

[Diddy1122]

my friends got a herniated disc in his lower back and it doesn't bother him at all.. or not much. His doctors told him he doesn't need to do anything and to come back if he starts to feel pain or numbness in his legs. That was a couple of years ago and he's been the same. So it depends on how bad it is and it's different for everyone.

Gotta agree with FT on this. While I get your point that it affects people differently, I think you really undersell the rigors that professional athletes put on their bodies. Derrick Rose is a self-described workhorse. He's constantly in the gym, constantly getting up shots, constantly moving & twisting his body in ways that most of us could never dream of doing. Now add onto that, that he is being hit, night in & night out, by guys 40-50lbs consistently heavier than him. Also take into account that he hits the floor with more force than an average athlete because of his speed & vertical while in the air. Yes, playing a professional sport makes a difference.

A better way to get the point across would have been to compare his situation to other NBA players who've suffered it, ala Steve Nash, David Robinson, Larry Bird, etc. Comparing Rose to your pick-up game buddy is the worst comparison you could make.

 

[BNB]

Gotta agree with FT on this. While I get your point that it affects people differently, I think you really undersell the rigors that professional athletes put on their bodies. Derrick Rose is a self-described workhorse. He's constantly in the gym, constantly getting up shots, constantly moving & twisting his body in ways that most of us could never dream of doing. Now add onto that, that he is being hit, night in & night out, by guys 40-50lbs consistently heavier than him. Also take into account that he hits the floor with more force than an average athlete because of his speed & vertical while in the air. Yes, playing a professional sport makes a difference.

A better way to get the point across would have been to compare his situation to other NBA players who've suffered it, ala Steve Nash, David Robinson, Larry Bird, etc. Comparing Rose to your pick-up game buddy is the worst comparison you could make.

you're stuck on the pick-up game thing too.

How did no one else notice that I said he also does heavy lifting at work 35-40 hours a day? That's also 5-6 days a week. He also works out [lifts] at the gym.

I would say that's a lot of stress on a guy who has a herniated disc.

ALL of that is probably as much, similar, or maybe even more stress than Derrick Rose puts on his body playing 36 MPG and practicing [which probably isn't much stress on the body]

idk why you guys are just looking at the playing basketball part and saying "yeah, that's not the same stress Derrick puts on his body."

I'd say a guy who works around 40 hours a week lifting heavy things + playing basketball and lifting on his free time all year round puts a lot of stress on his body.

but just focusing on playing in a basketball game. I agree that Rose is crazy athletic and get higher and do things none of us can do, so when he goes down it can hurt more than when we go down. And overall, I agree and understand that the NBA is more physically demanding compared to us playing Ball... but when you, I or anyone else goes to play basketball for a few hours, we put a lot of stress on our bodys especially since we're not in as good of shape as an NBA player. Well some of us are in great shape. But you get my point. And we fall on the same kind of floor rose falls on [sometimes it's concrete]. We run, just like rose runs [not as fast though] we jump just like Rose jumps [not as high] and we can take a good hit too.

I know I said "playing basketball is playing basketball" and w/e.. and I'll admit, that was a dumb statement because it is different.

But my overall point still stands. playing basketball + Working [especially the kind of job my buddy has] + weight lifting on your free time = or > [depends on how you look at it] stress that's put on a player playing basketball.

Wasn't just focusing on playing basketball in terms of stress.

 

[bbaker]

Let him rest. He could rest until the AS break & Chicago still has a good shot at going 3-2, maybe even 4-1 if they get lucky in that week of games (vs. Sacramento, vs. Boston, vs. NJ, vs. Atlanta, vs. Mil).

 

[thechosenone]

lol easy 5-0 with or without Rose.

4-1 only if we lose by the Hawks.

 

[FirstTimer]

Nice to see BNB continued to tard this thread up all night...

Did I use YMCA rec games or any other organized basketball games as my example? No. I said he played basketball... as in, we get guys together at the gym and play for a few hours. We play hard. Idk if you play with pussies.

LOL at you comparing some pickup game of "playing ahrd" to playing NBA fucking basketball.

LOL at you playing hard. You're prolly wheezing up and down the court after 2 minutes and jacking up shit jump shots.

Your pick up game with your crew of flunkies =/= to a NBA fucking basketball game, let alone playing NBA basketball on a near nightly basis.

Me driving into the lane and getting knocked on my ass would be the same as an NBA player driving to the lane and getting knocked on his ass.

No it would not.

Do you know how science works?

That's like me saying if I take a charge while coaching my team it's the same as taking a charge from Reggie Evans.

If you get knocked on yor ass by a guy who is a chiseld 6'7 225 that is a highly trained and strong athlete it's not the same as a getting knocked over by your Home Depot butt buddy who is 6'1 and 210 of flab and not nearly as strong.

Please go review a science book on force, mass, velocity, etc.

Thanks.

uhhhh... "You don't have to be in the NBA to put a lot stress on your back/body."

Uhh and?

Derrick Rose is an NBA player. Derrick Rose injured his back playing NBA basketball. Derrick Rose must heal enough to play NBA basketball again. So Derrick Rose being an NBA basketball player is not only intrisically involved with his injury to begin with....he must recover well enough to be able to play the same sport that caused the injury.

way to miss MY point.

You have yet to make a valid point.

Too bad I wasn't talking about rec league basketball or just basketball itself. I was talking about playing basketball, working out and lifting heavy shit. Way to miss, or ignore my point again.

You're funny.

Yes because I'm sure Derrick Rose doesn't do anything else but play basketball. Just by looking at him I cna tell he doesn't lift at all.

Please stop. You're making yourself look dumber with each post.

1st. why insult my buddy?

Because he's a joke if he hangs out with your dumb ass.

He's a good guy

Disagree.

and isn't even here.

Agree.

. He's had this job for 4 years

:rolling:

decent money

:rolling:

.

both need their back to do their job.

No.

Fucking.

Way.

Idiotically compares working at Home Depot to having to play in the NBA

So you're going to tell me what I meant when I said something? ha!

yes.

Good job and not knowing what I was talking about/ ignoring my point again! You're great at doing that.

I'm not "ignoring" any of your "points".

You have yet to make a "point" you just keep talking about your flunkie friend who works at the Home Depot having a bad back and playing hard in pickup games.

I've been trying to get my buddies to go along with a rec league for the past couple years now. A lot of work trying to get a herniated disk so you can collect workman's comp.

Well no worries. Usuing BNB's example you could get a herniated disc and still work fine.

 

[FirstTimer]

Went to the HS practice last night. Went really hard in drills with the team.

Blocked a guy who was 6'3.

I bet I could take Rose.

 

[FirstTimer]

BRB, have decided to hire an agent based on my pickup game performances.

Dropped 48 last night. Since just like an NBA game I feel I can be the 2 guard the Bulls are looking for.

Looking for rookie level deal.

 

[FirstTimer]

I typed that from memory.

Wikipedia =/= to memory

I took several courses in anatomy, physiology, pathology, kinesiology, etc.

Watching Scrubs is not "taking courses"

 

[Diddy1122]

Rose out tonight, still day to day. Thank God Mike James is being resigned. Can they relegate John Lucas the Turd to the bench already?

 

[BNB]

LOL at you comparing some pickup game of "playing ahrd" to playing NBA fucking basketball.

If you saw what I said to Diddy, you would have seen that I said I was wrong in comaring NBA basketball to any other kind.

LOL at you playing hard. You're prolly wheezing up and down the court after 2 minutes and jacking up shit jump shots.

You're probably coaching a kids basketball team because you're a creepy ass pedophile who brings the kids back home and tapes sexual acts while your wife [who is actually a relative of yours] tapes it.

It's fun assuming.

Do you know how science works?

That's like me saying if I take a charge while coaching my team it's the same as taking a charge from Reggie Evans.

If you get knocked on yor ass by a guy who is a chiseld 6'7 225 that is a highly trained and strong athlete it's not the same as a getting knocked over by your Home Depot butt buddy who is 6'1 and 210 of flab and not nearly as strong.

HAHAHAHAAH @ you talking about butt buddies.

Where's all your internet butt buddies? :lol: talking to everyone else- You insult them and you'e never wrong. Rory comes in a disagrees with you- "Oh yeah, you're right Rory. I agree, I guess I just viewed it differently at first.. but you have convinced me otherwise. Sorry for letting you down."

And again, I already addressed this in the post to Diddy. I acknowledged that is wasn't the same.

Uhh and?

Derrick Rose is an NBA player. Derrick Rose injured his back playing NBA basketball. Derrick Rose must heal enough to play NBA basketball again. So Derrick Rose being an NBA basketball player is not only intrisically involved with his injury to begin with....he must recover well enough to be able to play the same sport that caused the injury.

A guy injures his back unloading a truck. That guy must heal enough to be able to unload the truck again. So that guy, whose job requires him to unload the truck with heavy boxes is not only intrisically involved with his injury to begin with... he must recover well enough to be able to do the same job that caused the injury.

whoa... look at that.

You have yet to make a valid point.

You just don't seem to understand my point.

You're funny.

Yes because I'm sure Derrick Rose doesn't do anything else but play basketball. Just by looking at him I cna tell he doesn't lift at all.

Please stop. You're making yourself look dumber with each post.

Derrick Rose plays 3000 minutes a year. In each basketball game, how often does he fall or really take a hit? Not too much. He even goes games where he doesn't even hit the deck.

Practices in the NBA is basically running plays, running, standing around and listening to the coach, etc.

In the off-season, Rose doesn't even play pick-up games. He practices on his game and lifts.

Sticking to my friend. His job requires him to lift. Lets say he works 35 hours every week.. but he's only lifting shit for a total of 20 of those hours. That would be 57,600 minutes of lifting at his job each year [taking way 4 weeks in a year because of vacation]. That's not including the weights he lifts when he's at the gym, and those don't include the minutes he's running while playing basketball, football or anything else he does.

So does Rose lift weights that no one else lifts? If you're not in the NBA, you can't workout in the gym as hard as an NBA player would? You can't be in as good of shape as an NBA player would be?

You make it seem like no one can come close to being as fit as an NBA player or that they can't do things that are really physically demanding compared to an NBA player. Hell, a lot of NBA players don't do shit during the off-season.

Because he's a joke if he hangs out with your dumb ass.

I'm a cool guy. I would try being a lowlife clown like you, but I prefer being cool.

I'm not "ignoring" any of your "points".

You have yet to make a "point" you just keep talking about your flunkie friend who works at the Home Depot having a bad back and playing hard in pickup games.

My point- A guy, like my friend, can put a lot of stress on his back, just like an NBA player can put a lot of stress on their backs. How does he put a lot of stress on his back? By doing heavy lifting at work, doing heavy lifting at the gym, playing basketball as well as doing other things. You're just a moron and you either seem to not be getting that, or you're not picking at things I'm saying.

Well no worries. Usuing BNB's example you could get a herniated disc and still work fine.

you can be fine. Like I said, different from person to person.

Can You Lift Weights With a Herniated Disc? - Dr Davis' Back & Wrist Pain Blog



in there, it says some people with herniated discs don't even know they have it. Like I said in another post. So if you didn't know you had it, or did know you have it but it doesn't cause pain, why would it stop you from doing things?

and the people that do feel pain from herniated discs? Well they can still lift and do other things as long as your body feels like it's okay.

 

[FirstTimer]

If you saw what I said to Diddy, you would have seen that I said I was wrong in comaring NBA basketball to any other kind.

Yep and I'm going to hammer it into your stupid skull.

You're probably coaching a kids basketball team because you're a creepy ass pedophile who brings the kids back home and tapes sexual acts while your wife [who is actually a relative of yours] tapes it.

Bingo.

Ya got me.


:lmao:

HAHAHAHAAH @ you talking about butt buddies.

Where's all your internet butt buddies? :lol: talking to everyone else- You insult them and you'e never wrong. Rory comes in a disagrees with you- "Oh yeah, you're right Rory. I agree, I guess I just viewed it differently at first.. but you have convinced me otherwise. Sorry for letting you down."

And again, I already addressed this in the post to Diddy. I acknowledged that is wasn't the same.

You're not familair with Rory's and I's posting history prior to CCS.

Fun assuming right?

Also, nice of you to try and parrot what Rush says.

Original thought huh?

A guy injures his back unloading a truck. That guy must heal enough to be able to unload the truck again. So that guy, whose job requires him to unload the truck with heavy boxes is not only intrisically involved with his injury to begin with... he must recover well enough to be able to do the same job that caused the injury.

Dip shit. This stems from you saying Rose playing NBA basketball isn't relevant. It obviously is. I never said your friend hurting is back working some shit job at Home Depot wasn't relevant to his specific injury. I said it wasn't relevant to Rose's injury.

Try and keep up.

You saying your friend at the Home Depot worked through an injury so Rose can/should is idiotic since they both have difference fucking jobs and Rose is a highly trained fine tuned athlete. Your friend is a fat **** that lifts things for a living.

You just don't seem to understand my point.

Wrong.

Again.

Derrick Rose plays 3000 minutes a year. In each basketball game, how often does he fall or really take a hit? Not too much.

:rolling:

Are you fucking kidding me?

Practices in the NBA is basically running plays, running, standing around and listening to the coach, etc.

:rolling:

Wrong again.

In the off-season, Rose doesn't even play pick-up games. He practices on his game and lifts.

Wrong.

Please read the SI story on him playing pickup games with his friends which actually encouraged him to work on certain parts of his game.

Thanks.

Sticking to my friend. His job requires him to lift. Lets say he works 35 hours every week

Sounds like a part timer.

Lulz.

I'm a douche

Agreed.

I would try being awesome like you, but I prefer being a douche

That's sad.
.

My point- A guy, like my boyfriend, can put a lot of stress on his back, just like an NBA player can put a lot of stress on their backs.

I'm sure your friend is awesome at putting stress on his back.

Make him bite the pillow much?

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

LOL @ Rose never taking a hit during a game.