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Lose?
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Seeing some of these backup types getting traded gives me hope that we'll get something for Gipson instead of just straight cutting him (if that's indeed what the Bears plan to do).
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They don't like him for whatever reason.
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Kyrhis Tonga last year as well as Duke Shelley.
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Tonga and Shelley were both signed to practice squads, not claimed off waivers.
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Both were then added to the 53 man roster and played significant time for the Vikings last year.
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Cool. But they weren't claimed off waivers, which is specifically what I was asking about.
Good talk.
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So what's the point? No one else has claimed anyone from the Chicago Bears that's turned out to play for another team or is it just the immediate timing that matters for you.
Is it how good the players were or just the fact they weren't claimed RIGHT AWAY.
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He doesn't understand nfl basics. We could always go back to his salary cap thread to reinforce that
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It's the point that they weren't claimed off waivers because they weren't worth it to any team
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Has Brett figured out what a coaching tree is yet?
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And the Vikings have a freaking terrible defense. Shelley wasn’t even resigned from what I believe.
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Signed with the Raiders.
Tonga got his first opportunity in a Vikings uniform in a Week 8 win over the Cardinals and didn't look back. He played at least 20 defensive snaps in ten of the final 11 games (including playoffs) and earned a very strong 77.8 grade from PFF. Not only was he fantastic against the run, Tonga also racked up ten pressures and batted down four passes in a rotational role.
Tonga looks like he might be starting in Minnesota
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Yep. Tonga looked pretty promising here but then we changed the defense (Eberflus brought in) and he was no longer a good fit. The Vikings made a nice pickup with him.
Duke Shelley was never good though. He was the DB equivalent of Sam Mustipher, pretty much
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Maybe teams should focus so hard on scheme fit all the time and look to find good players.
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Yea. Maybe the Bears could have just kept Tonga and not needed to go out and get Billings.
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Best shot is from teams that are changing schemes or late round/UDFA players that looked good in camp that they are sneaking through. It's also possible that some guys get cut due to cap issues and Poles has still got $ to work with.
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Not good at pass pro.
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Lol. Tonga starting shows how little talent Minny has on the DL. The Vikings had one of the worst defenses in the league last year. Their message board is discussing drafting or signing a better NT in 2024; that he is best suited for a part time role. Jonathan freaking Bullard gets meaningful snaps in that defense.
Duke Shelley is currently listed 8th on the Raiders depth chart.